Games Talk Hatsu 2019

[Pandaazuma]

2 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

That's what I figured, but given that it's Oracle we're talking about, where you have to be mindful of the total wins you're distributing, I found it a bit ironic.

Yeah I will be more mindful in future. I was basically just thinking 'aloud' in sort of lay terms. My bad! 

[Haidouzo]

I'm giving this topic a 172% chance of continued humor.

[Pandaazuma]

Just glancing at the Salarycap lists, only one person (the Prof!!) has Tamawashi and eleven have Takakeisho somewhere in their lists. Not many yusho/Jun yusho bonuses going around this time then. Not impossible of course that Takakeisho might lose...if Goeido gets his belt he will be done for. In that case, we could be seeing a few more jun yusho.

Edited January 26, 2019 by Pandaazuma

[Rocks]

2 hours ago, Gurowake said:

That's what I figured, but given that it's Oracle we're talking about, where you have to be mindful of the total wins you're distributing, I found it a bit ironic.

Sorry, I was just confused. When I see people say something like 60% chance of winning I always think it terms of odds, not that there is 100% to distribute.  So when I saw his list I see " 2 people slightly favored, 2 even money and 3 disfavored."  So in terms of odds only the last two would be long shots and even at that I don't think it's very long. Everyone else would be long shots. I always think of these as in "against the entire field" too, not just the list of favorites. 

Edited January 26, 2019 by Rocks

[Sakura]

18 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Everyone else would be long sh**s. 

...... Are you sure?

Edited January 26, 2019 by Sakura
Edited Gansekiiwa's mistake

[Haidouzo]

6 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Everyone else would be long shits.

I don't think my basho has been THAT bad.

I'll have a similar feeling of relief when it's over, though.

[Rocks]

2 minutes ago, Sakura said:

...... Are you sure?

[Rocks]

Speaking of Oracle, Day 15 is my favorite for that game because you can compare your lineup to the torikumi and see how it can hurt or help you.  How many matches are there which no matter who wins will cost me a point? How many matches are gain or lose a point based on the winner? How many matches are gaining me a point no matter who wins? I guess if you did that for everyone near the top you could actually see who has a real shot or who is in big trouble because they have too many "no win" matches. At the very least it makes watching some matches, which in most cases I wouldn't care too much about, more interesting. 

[Rocks]

Well, in Oracle, it looks like I have 10 matches I will lose a point no matter who wins and 8 matches I will gain a point no matter who wins giving me a net  -2.  

556-2 means I start the night with 554.

There are 12 matches I can either gain a point or 11 (thanks to makushita crossover) I can lose a point depending on the winner. So I can score anywhere from 543 to 566.

Needless to say I will be rooting for Takayasu, Myougiryu, Aoiyama, Ryuden, Asanoyama, Azumryu, Daishoho, Tobizaru, Tokoshoryu, Wakatakakage, Mitoryu and Sokokurai.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Rocks

[chishafuwaku]

44 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Well, in Oracle, it looks like I have 10 matches I will lose a point no matter who wins and 8 matches I will gain a point no matter who wins giving me a net  -2.  

556-2 means I start the night with 554.

There are 12 matches I can either gain a point or 11 (thanks to makushita crossover) I can lose a point depending on the winner. So I can score anywhere from 543 to 566.

Needless to say I will be rooting for Takayasu, Myougiryu, Aoiyama, Ryuden, Asanoyama, Azumryu, Daishoho, Tobizaru, Tokoshoryu, Wakatakakage, Mitoryu and Sokokurai.

+8 -9 => Start 560 -1 = 559

Rooting for:

Takayasu
Myogiryu
                             Mitakeumi
                             Ichinojo
                             Kotoshogiku
Ryuden
Azumaryu
Tobizaru
Tomokaze
                              Kyokushuho
Wakatakakage
Mitoryu
Sokokurai

[Rocks]

@chishafuwaku Out of Likes or you would get one. We have a lot of overlap so things will have to fall just right for me to catch you. I don't like my odds. I didn't go through DeRosa's completely but I think things will have to fall just right for him to hold.

[Rocks]

@chishafuwaku Well, you got all you could out of Juryo, 7 points. I lost one so I only got 5. So 566 to 559 after Juryo.  I can't catch you even if things fall right in makuuchi. Oh well. Maybe I can still get the Jun-yusho. 

Edited January 27, 2019 by Rocks

[chishafuwaku]

2 minutes ago, Rocks said:

@chishafuwaku Well, you got all you could out of Juryo, 7 points. I Lost won so I only got 5. So 566 to 559 after Juryo.  I can't catch you even if things fall right in makuuchi. Oh well. Maybe I can still get the Jun-yusho. 

Do not lose hope, I may have always been mistaken.

[Rocks]

14 minutes ago, chishafuwaku said:

Do not lose hope, I may have always been mistaken.

We'll see. DeRosa is plus 3 out of Juryo with 1st makuuchi match but that isn't exact. He has a bigger downside in makuuchi I think.  

Went further. Still not exact but I think the best Derosa can do is 565 and that is if everything falls right. It's going to be close at the top. 

Edited January 27, 2019 by Rocks

[chishafuwaku]

Only considering Juryo 

De Rosa	562	559
chishafuwaku	560	561
Kotononami	560	559
Pandaazuma	558	555
Gansekiiwa	556	555
Gurowake	556	553
Ganzohnesushi	555	554
Choshu-yuki	555	554

[Rocks]

Just now, chishafuwaku said:

Only considering Juryo 

De Rosa	562	559
chishafuwaku	560	561
Kotononami	560	559
Pandaazuma	558	555
Gansekiiwa	556	555
Gurowake	556	553
Ganzohnesushi	555	554
Choshu-yuki	555	554

Very cool. 

[Sakura]

Or you could just wait and look at the results after the basho to see how you did.....

[Rocks]

3 minutes ago, Sakura said:

Or you could just wait and look at the results after the basho to see how you did.....

yeah, but this makes the matches more interesting. I mean how much would I have cared about Mitoryu-Tsurusighu?

[Sakura]

4 minutes ago, Rocks said:

yeah, but this makes the matches more interesting. I mean how much would I have cared about Mitoryu-Tsurusighu?

For me, wondering if I get one more point or not doesn't make a bout more interesting. Actually, the bouts are more interesting for me if I don't have a rooting interest.

[chishafuwaku]

After Yago

	Day14
De Rosa	562	564
chishafuwaku	560	566
Kotononami	560	564
Pandaazuma	558	560
Gansekiiwa	556	560
Gurowake	556	558
Ganzohnesushi	555	559
Choshu-yuki	555	557

[Rocks]

4 minutes ago, Sakura said:

For me, wondering if I get one more point or not doesn't make a bout more interesting. Actually, the bouts are more interesting for me if I don't have a rooting interest.

For most of the basho I would say the same. But the last day is different for me.

[chishafuwaku]

After Asanoyama

	Day14
De Rosa	562	565
chishafuwaku	560	565
Kotononami	560	565
Pandaazuma	558	561
Gansekiiwa	556	561
Gurowake	556	557
Ganzohnesushi	555	560
Choshu-yuki	555	558

 

[Rocks]

4 minutes ago, chishafuwaku said:

After Yago

	Day14
De Rosa	562	564
chishafuwaku	560	566
Kotononami	560	564
Pandaazuma	558	560
Gansekiiwa	556	560
Gurowake	556	558
Ganzohnesushi	555	559
Choshu-yuki	555	557

Probably everyone was +1 for Asanoyama. I'm doing terrible in toto tonight. 

[chishafuwaku]

Just now, Rocks said:

Probably everyone was +1 for Asanoyama. I'm doing terrible in toto tonight. 

No

[chishafuwaku]

After Daieisho

	Day14
De Rosa	562	564
chishafuwaku	560	564
Kotononami	560	564
Pandaazuma	558	560
Gansekiiwa	556	560
Gurowake	556	556
Ganzohnesushi	555	559
Choshu-yuki	555	557