Break The Curse (The Nigate Game) Hatsu 2018

[Sakura]

Welcome to Break The Curse (The Nigate Game) 

Registration link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VDN6SN9

It's an easy game to play, but you have to pick wisely.

In this daily game, you have to choose three Makuuchi bouts where you think a rikishi with a losing head-to-head record against his opponent will win.

Rules

1) Every day, choose three Makuuchi bouts listed for that same day. The bouts must follow this form:

                A) The first bout must contain a rikishi from Sanyaku (any bout with a  Y/O/S/K can be chosen).

                B) The second bout must contain a rikishi ranked M1 through M8.

                C) The third bout must contain a rikishi ranked M9 or lower. A lower ranked Makuuchi rikishi against a Juryo rikishi can be chosen.

2) Some bouts will fit in multiple categories (e.g. a Y vs M1 bout can be chosen for the first or second bout). However, you may not choose the same bout twice (or more). If you do, the second (or third) instance of the bout will score you 0 points.

3)Any bouts that do not fit the criteria will not score points.

4) You will score points if the rikishi with the losing record in head-to-head wins. E.g. if RIKISHI A has a 30-20 winning record over RIKISHI B and RIKISHI B wins, then you score points. If RIKISHI A wins, then you score 0 points.

5) The number of points you score is calculated by the difference in head-to-head score prior to the bout. E.g. if RIKISHI A has a 30-20 winning record over RIKISHI B and RIKISHI B wins, then you score 30-20=10 points.

6) When determining points, any previous bouts between the two rikishi that were in a playoff or decided by fusen do not count. I'll be using the head-to-head stats from the database, so if it gives a head-to-head of 5[-1]-8[+1], then that will be used as a 4-8 record in the calculations.

7) If your rikishi wins by fusen, then you get the points.

8)  In addition to  the points given as described above there will be an additional  4 points for picking a winning rikishi. This should make some of the lower scoring but low risk bouts more attractive to pick.

9) Day 15. Since the torikumi for day 15 comes out well after I've gone to bed, then you'll have to submit them to me via PM or posting here on the forum thread. Unless anyone else is able to do Dy 15 for me.

11) Promotion Rules for Ozeki

•  33 wins over last three basho of which last two in Sanyaku. All those bahso must have a winning record.
•  30 wins over last three basho of which last two in Sanyaku. All those bahso must have a winning record. AND a Yusho in those three.
• 2 Yusho over the last three basho (last two basho in Sanyaku) or a Yusho/Jun-Yusho back-to-back combination (in Sanyaku)

Winning

The winner is the one with the most points and the end of the basho. The tiebreaker is decided by the bonus points system.

The entry form is an anonymous survey that I post links to here.

Edited January 8, 2018 by Sakura
added link

[Sakura]

OZEKI PROMOTION WATCH

@Pandaazuma is on an Ozeki Run

He needs a 15-0 record or 12-3 (under the new scoring system which gives more points to the 1st/2nd/3rd places for W-L purposes) with a yusho. 

[Sakura]

registration link:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VDN6SN9

 

[Sakura]

We have 7 registrants so far

Sakura
chishafuwaku
Tenshinhan
Achiyama
Jakusotsu
Pandaazuma
RauecherLax

I'd appreciate it if BTC players wold be willing to comment over at

 

[Sakura]

We have 3 more entrants in 

gernobono
ChickyStarr
WAKATAKE

 

[Sakura]

Gaijingai has registered.

Players on the active banzuke who have yet to register are @Shokikogi, @Senkoho, @kuroimori, @Suwihuto, @Unkonoyama, @shimodahito and @Rocks. As always you can still join after the start. There is plenty of opportunity to make points.

I'm going away for about 24-30 hours from now, so I'm posting the first two day's forms.

Day 1 entry form

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YVC28QK

Day 2 entry form

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YCKFTYL

[Rocks]

I'm in. Thank you.

[Rocks]

Bump 

[Sakura]

Thanks for the bump Rocks. The day 2 entry form is posted above for those that haven't caught it.

[Sakura]

Thank you for your patience whilst I was away.

Entries received Day 1

ChickyStarr	Goeido	Tamawashi	Asanoyama
Jakusotsu	Tamawashi	Endo	Kotoyuki
RaeucherLax	Tamawashi	Endo	Chiyomaru
Tenshinhan	Tamawashi	Endo	Kotoyuki
Gansekiiwa	Tamawashi	Shodai	Kotoyuki
Pandaazuma	Tamawashi	Okinoumi	Kotoyuki
Senkoho	Tamawashi	Goeido	Kotoyuki
gernobono	Kakuryu	Tamawashi	Daishomaru
Suwihuto	Tamawashi	Endo	Chiyomaru
Gaijingai	Tamawashi	Okinoumi	Chiyomaru
Achiyama	Tamawashi	Okinoumi	Takekaze
chishafuwaku	Tamawashi	Endo	Shohozan
Sakura	Tamawashi	Endo	Kotoyuki
Unkonoyama	Tamawashi	Kakuryu	Abi

 

Tamawashi was the obvious choice and as a result he makes Break The Curse history as the first ever unanimous selection. Congratulations Tamawashi.

Standings after Day 1

Name	Win Pts	Bonus Pts	Total
Suwihuto	11	12	23
RaeucherLax	11	12	23
Sakura	10	12	22
Tenshinhan	10	12	22
Jakusotsu	10	12	22
Senkoho	7	12	19
gernobono	7	12	19
ChickyStarr	6	12	18
chishafuwaku	8	8	16
Gaijingai	7	8	15
Pandaazuma	6	8	14
Gansekiiwa	6	8	14
Unkonoyama	5	8	13
Achiyama	4	4	8

Edited January 15, 2018 by Sakura
removed extra column in table

[Sakura]

Entries received Day 2

ChickyStarr	Mitakeumi	Okinoumi	Sokokurai
Jakusotsu	Mitakeumi	Endo	Daieisho
RaeucherLax	Tamawashi	Endo	Sokokurai
Tenshinhan	Mitakeumi	Endo	Sokokurai
Gansekiiwa	Mitakeumi	Shohozan	Sokokurai
Pandaazuma	Mitakeumi	Endo	Ryuden
Senkoho	Tamawashi	Endo	Sokokurai
gernobono	Mitakeumi	Chiyonokuni	Aminishiki
Suwihuto	Tamawashi	Endo	Sokokurai
Gaijingai	Mitakeumi	Endo	Ryuden
Achiyama	Tamawashi	Endo	Shohozan
chishafuwaku	Tamawashi	Endo	Shohozan
Sakura	Ichinojo	Endo	Ryuden
Unkonoyama	Tamawashi	Okinoumi	Daieisho
kuroimori	Tamawashi	Mitakeumi	Sokokurai
shimodahito	Tamawashi	Endo	Ryuden
Wakatake	Onosho	Shohozan	Abi

 

Don't ask me why I picked Ichinojo. I don't know either

[Sakura]

Day 3 entry form

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/N776S96

[Sakura]

Standings after Day 2

Name	Win Pts	Bonus Pts	Total
Suwihuto	20	24	44
RaeucherLax	20	24	44
Tenshinhan	18	24	42
Senkoho	16	24	40
chishafuwaku	18	20	38
Jakusotsu	16	20	36
ChickyStarr	10	24	34
Gansekiiwa	12	20	32
Sakura	15	16	31
Achiyama	14	16	30
gernobono	9	20	29
Gaijingai	13	16	29
Pandaazuma	12	16	28
Unkonoyama	8	16	24
kuroimori	5	12	17
shimodahito	7	8	15
Wakatake	3	4	7

[Sakura]

Entries received Day 3

ChickyStarr	Kotoshogiku	Ikioi	Chiyonokuni
Jakusotsu	Kotoshogiku	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
RaeucherLax	Kotoshogiku	Chiyoshoma	Chiyonokuni
Tenshinhan	Kotoshogiku	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
Gansekiiwa	Yoshikaze	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
Pandaazuma	Ichinojo	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
Senkoho	Yoshikaze	Chiyonokuni	Daieisho
gernobono	Ichinojo	Shodai	Chiyonokuni
Suwihuto	Tamawashi	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
Gaijingai	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Chiyonokuni
Achiyama	Yoshikaze	Kaisei	Daieisho
chishafuwaku	Kotoshogiku	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
Sakura	Ichinojo	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
Unkonoyama	Kotoshogiku	Kaisei	Chiyonokuni
kuroimori	Ichinojo	Okinoumi	Daieisho
shimodahito	Yoshikaze	Shodai	Chiyonokuni
WAKATAKE	Yoshikaze	Ikioi	Ryuden

 

 

[Sakura]

Day 4 entry form

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/KZHHHYK

[Sakura]

Results after Day 3

Name	Win Pts	Bonus Pts	Total
RaeucherLax	22	28	50
Senkoho	17	28	45
Suwihuto	20	24	44
Tenshinhan	18	24	42
Sakura	19	20	39
chishafuwaku	18	20	38
gernobono	13	24	37
Jakusotsu	16	20	36
Pandaazuma	16	20	36
Achiyama	15	20	35
ChickyStarr	10	24	34
Gansekiiwa	12	20	32
kuroimori	10	20	30
Gaijingai	13	16	29
Unkonoyama	8	16	24
shimodahito	7	8	15
WAKATAKE	3	4	7

[Sakura]

Entries received Day 4

ChickyStarr	Mitakeumi	Chiyomaru	Shohozan
Jakusotsu	Tamawashi	Chiyoshoma	Shohozan
RaeucherLax	Ichinojo	Arawashi	Nishikigi
Tenshinhan	Kisenosato	Okinoumi	Shohozan
Gansekiiwa	Kisenosato	Ichinojo	Shohozan
Pandaazuma	Kisenosato	Chiyoshoma	Shohozan
Senkoho	Kisenosato	Chiyoshoma	Shohozan
gernobono	Mitakeumi	Chiyomaru	Shohozan
Suwihuto	Tamawashi	Chiyonokuni	Shohozan
Gaijingai	Tamawashi	Arawashi	Shohozan
Achiyama	Ichinojo	Chiyoshoma	Shohozan
chishafuwaku	Kisenosato	Okinoumi	Shohozan
Sakura	Ichinojo	Kisenosato	Shohozan
Unkonoyama	Yoshikaze	Okinoumi	Shohozan
kuroimori	Tamawashi	Okinoumi	Shohozan
shimodahito	Yoshikaze	Ichinojo	Sokokurai
WAKATAKE	Kisenosato	Ichinojo	Shohozan

[Sakura]

Entry form Day 5

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/S55F2LX

[Sakura]

 

Standings after Day4

Name	Win Pts	Bonus Pts	Total
RaeucherLax	27	32	59
gernobono	22	36	58
Senkoho	24	32	56
ChickyStarr	19	36	55
Suwihuto	27	28	55
Tenshinhan	25	28	53
Unkonoyama	27	24	51
Sakura	26	24	50
chishafuwaku	25	24	49
Jakusotsu	23	24	47
Pandaazuma	23	24	47
Achiyama	22	24	46
Gansekiiwa	19	24	43
kuroimori	17	24	41
Gaijingai	20	20	40
shimodahito	19	12	31
WAKATAKE	10	8	18

[Sakura]

Entries received Day 5

ChickyStarr	Kotoshogiku	Arawashi	Daieisho
Jakusotsu	Tamawashi	Ikioi	Daieisho
RaeucherLax	Kotoshogiku	Tochinoshin	Daishomaru
Tenshinhan	Yoshikaze	Takayasu	Sokokurai
Gansekiiwa	Kotoshogiku	Takayasu	Shohozan
Pandaazuma	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Sokokurai
Senkoho	Kotoshogiku	Ikioi	Daishomaru
gernobono	Yoshikaze	Kotoshogiku	Daieisho
Suwihuto	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Abi
Gaijingai	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Shohozan
Achiyama	Yoshikaze	Kotoshogiku	Sokokurai
chishafuwaku	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Sokokurai
Sakura	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Daishomaru
Unkonoyama	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Daishomaru
kuroimori	Yoshikaze	Kotoshogiku	Daishomaru
shimodahito	Kotoshogiku	Yoshikaze	Sokokurai
WAKATAKE	Yoshikaze	Kotoshogiku	Sokokurai

 

Since this is pertinent to my question about fusen bouts I did some checking. 12 out of the 15 people who picked Kotoshogiku did so before Hakuho's kyujo was announced, so they didn't get the benefit of the announcement.

[Sakura]

Day 6 entry form

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZTRT5QY

[Pandaazuma]

Given the ludicrous number of points that can be picked up for a fusensho, it might be worth having a points cap (say 20 points) for these lopsided head-to-head records.

[Sakura]

6 hours ago, Pandaazuma said:

Given the ludicrous number of points that can be picked up for a fusensho, it might be worth having a points cap (say 20 points) for these lopsided head-to-head records.

What about having fusen wins be half of the original?

[Rocks]

I would say it might be better to just limit the points to begin with since these large numbers are rare. I chose Giku even before the announcement because given that most of the time your are choosing a match that will get you around 1-6 points and having the shot at 48, or even 20,  is just too big to pass up IMO. I didn't actually think Giku would win and I didn't  pick him in any other game before Hakuho bowed out.  But considering my opponents were gaining at most 6 points, I think, by choosing another match the chance at 48 was worth it to me. The fact that the other matches with lower numbers are also long shots makes it worth it too.

[Suwihuto]

4 minutes ago, Rocks said:

I would say it might be better to just limit the points to begin with since these large numbers are rare. I chose Giku even before the announcement because given that most of the time your are choosing a match that will get you around 1-6 points and having the shot at 48, or even 20,  is just too big to pass up IMO. I didn't actually think Giku would win and I didn't  pick him in any other game before Hakuho bowed out.  But considering my opponents were gaining at most 6 points, I think, by choosing another match the chance at 48 was worth it to me. The fact that the other matches with lower numbers are also long shots makes it worth it too.

That was my logic too, although I was aware of a reasonable chance of fusen, which made it all the more attractive.