Fukurou Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Day 3, Day 3 Late, Day 3 Late, Part 2, Day 5, Day 5 Late, Day 7, Day 8, Day 9, Day 10 Late, Day 13, Day 13 Late, Day 14 Late , Based on information on the NSK website, the following sekitori rikishi will be absent on Day 1 of the 2017 Kyushu basho (subject to change). The status of all other rikishi will be revealed in about 24 hours. As always, typo and other corrections are welcome. MAKUUCHI Y2w Kakuryu (link) M8e Takanoiwa (link) M16e Ura (link) JURYO J11e Chiyootori (link) MAKUSHITA Ms33w Aozora Ms51w Sotairyu Ms57w Sasakiyama SANDANME Sd9w Tetsuyuzan Sd21w Shotenro Sd43e Yutsukasa Sd45w Yuma (link) Sd47w Shuji Sd75e Hamaminato Sd84w Kotohayashi Sd94w Matsuyama JONIDAN Jd1w Shingaku Jd3w Amanishiki Jd14w Takada Jd18w Suekawa Jd29w Ariake Jd46w Yokuyusei Jd53w Narumi Jd57e Mitsuuchi Jd57w Hasugeyama Jd65e Kotomiyakura Jd79w Asahijo Jd82e Ogiryu Jd85w Umiwatari Jd97e Asahimaru Jd97w Tamanoryu Jd98e Mutsumi Jd103w Daigonishiki JONOKUCHI Jk1e Goketsuyama Jk8w Nakano Jk14w Kenho Jk18w Kakutaiki Jk19w Masuyama Jk23w Matsuoka Jk25w Kitasatsuma Edited November 26, 2017 by Fukurou 1
Asashosakari Posted November 10, 2017 Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) http://www.hochi.co.jp/sports/sumo/20171110-OHT1T50063.html Official certificate submitted for Ura: right knee ACL injury, left knee meniscus injury, 3 months estimated recovery for surgery and rehab. The press coverage is putting his participation in January in serious doubt, not that that's much of a surprise. And for completeness, Kakuryu's diagnosis: Edited November 10, 2017 by Asashosakari 2
Fukurou Posted November 10, 2017 Author Posted November 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Asashosakari said: http://www.hochi.co.jp/sports/sumo/20171110-OHT1T50063.html Official certificate submitted for Ura: right knee ACL injury, left knee meniscus injury, 3 months estimated recovery for surgery and rehab. The press coverage is putting his participation in January in serious doubt, not that that's much of a surprise. 3 months for total recovery from ACL injury and surgery... I want what they're smoking. 3
Fukurou Posted November 11, 2017 Author Posted November 11, 2017 A day 1 summary by division: Makuuchi - 3 absent Juryo - 1 absent Makushita - 3 absent Sandanme - 8 absent Jonidan - 17 absent Jonokuchi - 7 absent
Tiger Tanaka Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 Has there been any further update on Takanoiwa? Hoping he can come back after a couple days absence to put up 5-7 wins and protect is Makuuchi status.
Akinomaki Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Burajirotono said: What about Enho? Not scheduled for day 1, so if he's absent, it will be on day 2 and announced tomorrow. Not officially withdrawn for the whole basho. Edited November 11, 2017 by Akinomaki 1
Asashosakari Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Not scheduled for day 1, so if he's absent, it will be on day 2 and announced tomorrow The absence list doesn't work that way. The list posted by Fukurou above includes everybody who hasn't been scheduled for either Day 1 or Day 2. Enho faces Jokoryu. Edit: Or did you mean absent by fusenpai? I suppose that could still happen, but then he's going to be listed as a Day 3 withdrawal. Edited November 11, 2017 by Asashosakari
Akinomaki Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Asashosakari said: The absence list doesn't work that way. The list posted by Fukurou above includes everybody who hasn't been scheduled for either Day 1 or Day 2. Enho faces Jokoryu. Edit: Or did you mean absent by fusenpai? I suppose that could still happen, but then he's going to be listed as a Day 3 withdrawal. I meant he hasn't withdrawn from the basho and it would be announced tomorrow if he chooses to not appear on day 2 - but you're right, it would likely be shown only by his possible non-appearance on day 2, without announcement - or rather just on the day, and then withdrawal. Edit: I haven't seen any details yet about when exactly the lower rankers or their oyakata usually tell the officials that there will be a fusenpai. In the extreme, it might be that not coming in to sit at the dohyo 2 bouts in advance tells them. Edit 2: I have the impression that they basically are forced to not tell at all in advance - there is no actual need for most fusensho, because the next opponent usually isn't scheduled when the rikishi already is essentially out of contention. Edited November 11, 2017 by Akinomaki
Atenzan Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Not scheduled for day 1, so if he's absent, it will be on day 2 and announced tomorrow. Not officially withdrawn for the whole basho. What's wrong with Enhou? Is he injured?
inhashi Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 2 hours ago, McBugger said: What's wrong with Enhou? Is he injured? There was news going around during jungyo last month saying that he twisted his right ankle during practice and that he heard a "buchibuchi" sound when it happened. I'm not really up on Japanese onomatopoeia, but a ripping sound? 1
Atenzan Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, inhashi said: There was news going around during jungyo last month saying that he twisted his right ankle during practice and that he heard a "buchibuchi" sound when it happened. I'm not really up on Japanese onomatopoeia, but a ripping sound? Huh. Cheers for the intel. If there's no tendon/ligament damage I suspect that this injury will be treated with all the gravity and seriousness you'd expect for a mosquito bite.
Fukurou Posted November 13, 2017 Author Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Day 3 Sd60e MASAKAZE (0-1, absent day 2) and Jd3e KAIHO (0-1, absent day 1) are withdrawing. No Enho on the list, but he doesn't have a day 3 match either. Edited November 13, 2017 by Fukurou
Yubinhaad Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Takanoiwa was hospitalised on October 26th with a long list of problems - Concussion (脳震盪); laceration on the front left of the head (左前頭部裂傷); external inflammation of the right ear (右外耳道炎); fractured skull (右中頭蓋底骨折); suspected cerebrospinal fluid leak (髄液漏の疑い). Meanwhile, Chiyootori has a dislocated right shoulder and a left knee anterior cruciate ligament injury. Oh, and from the lower divisions, Yuma injured his knee in keiko just before the basho. Edited November 13, 2017 by Yubinhaad 3 2
bettega Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 50 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said: Takanoiwa was hospitalised on October 26th with a long list of problems - Concussion (脳震盪); laceration on the front left of the head (左前頭部裂傷); external inflammation of the right ear (右外耳道炎); fractured skull (右中頭蓋底骨折); suspected cerebrospinal fluid leak (髄液漏の疑い). What?
Sakura Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, bettega said: What? I agree with that comment.... The injury list for Takanoiwa sounds like he was bashed on the head.
Akinomaki Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Aoiyama was injured in the region of his right ankle in the bout with Okinoumi, where was yoritaoshi-d. He left at first leaning on the shoulder of a yobidashi, in the hanamichi he had to use the wheelchair. He told that "there was a snapping sound." http://www.hochi.co.jp/sports/sumo/20171113-OHT1T50135.html Edited November 13, 2017 by Akinomaki 2
Akinomaki Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Yubinhaad said: Takanoiwa was hospitalised on October 26th with a long list of problems - Concussion (脳震盪); laceration on the front left of the head (左前頭部裂傷); external inflammation of the right ear (右外耳道炎); fractured skull (右中頭蓋底骨折); suspected cerebrospinal fluid leak (髄液漏の疑い). Takanoiwa was injured at the Tottori jungyo on the 26th. From the 5th to the 9th he was in a hospital in Fukuoka. The medical certificate finishes with "About 2 weeks have to be considered for complete recovery." Takanohana only tells: "As the certificate says, he's in a bad condition." http://www.sankei.com/sports/news/171113/spo1711130027-n1.html
Yamanashi Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Aoiyama was injured in the region of his right ankle in the bout with Okinoumi, where was yoritaoshi-d. He left at first leaning on the shoulder of a yobidashi, in the hanamichi he had to use the wheelchair. He told that "there was a snapping sound." http://www.hochi.co.jp/sports/sumo/20171113-OHT1T50135.html Watching the replay, I could see the leg above the ankle actually bend; I couldn't watch the second replay
Highway Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Aoiyama was injured in the region of his right ankle in the bout with Okinoumi, where was yoritaoshi-d. He left at first leaning on the shoulder of a yobidashi, in the hanamichi he had to use the wheelchair. He told that "there was a snapping sound." http://www.hochi.co.jp/sports/sumo/20171113-OHT1T50135.html Aye. Surely it means he's out of the basho?
orandashoho Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Highway said: Aye. Surely it means he's out of the basho? He may decide to stay in even if injured; at M11 he is on the edge of safety from demotion but a few wins will cushion his fall.
Katooshu Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 He's gone almost 5 years with no MKs when ranked below M5. Seems like he's in for one here if it's that serious.
Fukurou Posted November 14, 2017 Author Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) Day 3 LATE According to the NSK site, M11e AOIYAMA (1-1) has withdrawn as of Day 3. Kaisei will get the default win. Akinomaki detailed his injury in an earlier message. Edited November 14, 2017 by Fukurou
Kaninoyama Posted November 14, 2017 Posted November 14, 2017 It's now being reported that Harumafuji will go kyujo.
Tiger Tanaka Posted November 14, 2017 Posted November 14, 2017 Poor Aoiyama, that looked like a lot of stress on that ankle and leg. Hope it is not as bad as it sounds. Aoiyama's been a mainstay in the top division for 5+ years culminating in a jun-yusho in Nagoya. Wishing him a speedy recovery. Will save comments for the disturbing Harumafuji news once the new thread is open. 1
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