Bumpkin Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said: Well there are definitely two holes opened for makuuchi, Tokushoryu (M15E, 2-9) and Sadanoumi (M12W, 0-6-5) are your prime candidates for demotion. Ryuden is the only KK in juryo right now at 8-3, but he's ranked down at J5E, so he needs a stellar last four days in order to bolster his resume. Meanwhile Aminishiki at J2E and Kotoyuki at J3W have 7-4 records, trying to improved their chances for returning to the top division. The wily veteran's time may finally have come! Ms17w Toyonoshima is 4-1. If he goes 6-1 than he should be back in the Makushita top 5.
Asashosakari Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Day 11 (results, text-only results): kyujo Hakuho Y1 Harumafuji 7-4 kyujo Kisenosato Y2 Kakuryu kyujo 1-2-8 Takayasu O1 Goeido 10-1 Underperforming Mitakeumi proved no major obstacle to Goeido's yusho hopes, so the ozeki moved up into double-digit territory. And he's now even two wins clear of the field after Chiyotairyu made an ill-advised pulling attempt against a very stable Tamawashi and ended up losing. It's not quite in the bag yet, but given Goeido's remaining opposition (three maegashira + Harumafuji) it's going to take one of the bigger collapses in recent memory for him to be caught. Yokozuna Harumafuji had to work hard for it again today, but ultimately prevailed over Ichinojo. Mitakeumi's loss means his overall record is in negative territory now and he'll have to do some work for his kachikoshi. Consequently I've moved demotee-to-be Terunofuji down to the second table now, as it's possible that he'll be taking one of the regular two sekiwake spots rather than a third one, which would reduce the size of sanyaku at the expense of the maegashira hopefuls. Speaking of whom, Kotoshogiku is now officially in the driver's seat after his third straight win, with Chiyotairyu on his heels. Onosho on the other hand lost #3 in a row (this time to Tochiozan), and seems to be fading from contention. Either way, we're still waiting for anyone to vacate a sanyaku position as Tochiozan's victory means he survives for at least one more day. Tamawashi and Yoshikaze also improved their chances with wins, and the latter now stands just one shiroboshi away from another basho as sekiwake. The action lower down the ranks saw wins for Takanoiwa and Asanoyama, who have not only achieved KK with that, because also (re)joined Chiyotairyu as the kinda-pursuers of the yusho leader. (x) 1-5-5 Terunofuji O2 5-6 Mitakeumi S Yoshikaze 7-4 5-6 Tamawashi K Tochiozan 4-7 M1 Kotoshogiku 7-4 4-7 Hokutofuji M2 7-4 Onosho M3 Chiyotairyu 8-3 5-6 Shohozan M4 5-6 Shodai M5 Takakeisho 7-4 6-5 Ichinojo M6 6-5 Chiyonokuni M7 Ikioi 6-5 M8 Takarafuji 7-4 8-3 Takanoiwa M9 Arawashi 7-4 Harumafuji enters his personal basho home stretch now, with only sanyaku opponents awaiting him for the final four days (Tamawashi, Yoshikaze, Mitakeumi and Goeido). Nearly all other intra-sanyaku bouts have been done, only the sekiwake duel also still remains to be a part of the Day 15 schedule. Consequently this tournament will be seeing a lot of late-day action between the lower sanyaku incumbents and the maegashira pretenders, which should be pretty suspenseful if nothing else. However, the highest-profile bout not involving Harumafuji or Goeido may be a pure maegashira affair, as we're getting Kotoshogiku versus Chiyotairyu which may well set the tone for their respective promotion hopes for the last few days. And as for the yusho leader, he's meeting Shohozan, the highest-ranked opponent still available. As already mentioned above Day 11 was kachikoshi time for Asanoyama, courtesy of his 5th victory in as many days. Endo and Chiyomaru haven't quite reached KK yet, but are safe in the top divison now after beating Arawashi and Sadanoumi. The latter is now definitely headed back to juryo, and his spot on the hot seat has been taken over by Tokushoryu after loss #9. Yutakayama and Ishiura (7th straight defeat) continue to be headed in the wrong direction as well, while Okinoumi (beating Ishiura) improved his lot. The four main candidates for promotion from juryo went only 2-2 on the day, with success for Aminishiki and Ryuden and losses for Myogiryu and Kotoyuki. Nagoya yusho winner Daiamami at J3 now has a positive record for the first time this basho and is slowly putting himself into the conversation as well. Still, it looks as though we could end up with more open slots than credible promotees here if things continue to go the way they have. M4 Ura 1-2-8 (?) ... (3) 2-9 Ishiura M10 Takekaze 4-7 (1) M11 Chiyomaru 6-5 (o) M12 Sadanoumi 0-6-5 (x) (1) 5-6 Nishikigi M13 Kaisei 6-5 (1) (o) 7-4 Endo M14 Okinoumi 5-6 (2) (~) 2-9 Tokushoryu M15 Yutakayama 4-7 (4) (o) 8-3 Asanoyama M16 --- J1 Myogiryu 5-6 (3) (2) 7-4 Aminishiki J2 Azumaryu 4-7 (~) (3) 6-5 Daiamami J3 Kotoyuki 7-4 (2) (~) 5-6 Kyokutaisei J4 Toyohibiki 4-7 (x) (2) 8-3 Ryuden J5 Yamaguchi 5-6 (~) (~) 6-5 Kyokushuho J6 Homarefuji 7-4 (4) (~) 6-5 Hidenoumi J7 Finally some action among contenders again as Day 12 will give us Daiamami against Ryuden. The 9 lower juryo rikishi on the bubble went 6-3 today, with two of the losses unavoidable as they came in head-to-head meetings. (Gagamaru was the other loser on the day.) Kotoeko was successful against rookie Daiseido, and Osunaarashi beat Kizenryu, the latter unfortunately suffering an injury which looks likely to scupper his kachikoshi hopes in the worst way. That, frankly, sucks. It's morbidly good news for the guys in high makushita, however, who have been delivering a high-quality promotion race and look likely to produce more strong promotion records than the committee will be able to move up. As detailed yesterday it was a highly unusual torikumi with lots of head-to-head meetings amongst the contenders, which saw Masunosho prevail over Tobizaru, Takagenji go KK against Kizaki, and Kitataiki stay alive against Tochihiryu. Takagenji should now have the inside track to promotion, being kachikoshi at the very highest rank, but things remain complicated as ever due to Mitoryu keeping his zensho yusho hopes going with victory over Tochimaru. J7 Gagamaru 3-8 (1) J8 J9 Kotoeko 4-7 (1) (2) 4-7 Osunaarashi J10 J11 (3) 4-7 Kitaharima J12 Seiro 6-5 (1) (1) 6-5 Terutsuyoshi J13 Yago 5-6 (2) (1) 7-4 Daiseido J14 Kizenryu 6-5 (2) 4-2 Takagenji Ms1 Kitataiki 3-3 4-2 Tobizaru Ms2 Tochihiryu 2-4 (x) 5-1 Masunosho Ms3 Kizaki 3-3 Ms4 Akiseyama 3-3 4-2 Daishoho Ms5 Shimanoumi 4-2 ... 6-0 Mitoryu Ms14 Edited September 20, 2017 by Asashosakari 5 5
Bumpkin Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Why does Ichinojo have an (X), but not Chiyonokuni and Ikioi? Edited September 20, 2017 by Bumpkin 1
Fukurou Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 At 1-3-7 from M2, what does Aoiyama need to keep from dropping to Juryo, or is it already too late?
Asashosakari Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Bumpkin said: Why does Ichinojo have an (X), but not Chiyonokuni and Ikioi? D'oh, I misread his record as 5-6. Thanks, corrected.
Ack! Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Fukurou said: At 1-3-7 from M2, what does Aoiyama need to keep from dropping to Juryo, or is it already too late? He's safe, especially considering the lack of promotion candidates from juryo.
Flohru Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, Fukurou said: At 1-3-7 from M2, what does Aoiyama need to keep from dropping to Juryo, or is it already too late? Nothing, it is already too late to drop as he saved himself yesterday with his win (see day 10 comments).
Fukurou Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ack! said: He's safe, especially considering the lack of promotion candidates from juryo. 3 minutes ago, Flohru said: Nothing, it is already too late to drop as he saved himself yesterday with his win (see day 10 comments). Thanks, I missed that on the chart.
serge_gva Posted September 20, 2017 Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) I think Ura is probably safe too. According to the database, a M4 rikishi with one win was never demoted to juryo so far. Last year, M4w Chiyootori was sent to m12w with one win. On the other hand, with 0 win, 4/14 M4 rikishi finished in Juryo since modern era. The last one to drop directly from M4 to J was... the same Chiyootori in 2015 Edited September 20, 2017 by serge_gva 1
Asashosakari Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 Juryo yusho race: 8-3 Ryuden 7-4 Aminishiki, Kotoyuki, Homarefuji, Daiseido 6-5 (a cast of thousands eleven) At this point it will not come as any sort of surprise that only one of the three leaders managed to tack on another win. Ryuden is the fortunate one who collected juryo's first kachikoshi of the basho, and he has become the third rikishi to hold a solo pole position this month, following Kizenryu on Day 4 and Chiyootori on Day 7. The pursuer group was dismantled in even more impressive fashion, with just 2 (!) winners out of 8. Aminishiki and Homarefuji lucked out here, and join losing ex-leaders Kotoyuki and Daiseido in second place. Aminishiki and Daiseido are meeting tomorrow, so at least one guy will remain tethered to the leader even if Ryuden wins again tomorrow in his bout against 6-5 Daiamami. The other two 7-4's Kotoyuki and Homarefuji are facing a pair of 4-7 rikishi in Toyohibiki and Kitaharima. A few of the 6-5's are also squaring off, so that group might get whittled down to the point that I can actually be bothered to list the third tier guys by name for the first time. (Or perhaps not. It's going to be 8-4 / 7-5 / 6-6 tomorrow, isn't it...?) Lower division yusho races (Day 11 results and video): 6-0 Ms14e Mitoryu (Nishikido) 5-1 Ms20e Tochimaru (Kasugano) 5-1 Ms39w Irodori (Shikoroyama)6-0 Ms49w Kagamio (Kagamiyama) 6-0 Sd18w Enho (Miyagino) 5-1 Sd20w Honda (Nishikido) 5-1 Sd44e Sadanosato (Sakaigawa)6-0 Sd71w Tanabe (Kise)6-0 Sd82e Matsuda (Minezaki) 5-1 Sd95e Ginseizan (Otake) 5-1 Jd16w Teraoumi (Shikoroyama)6-0 Jd34e Tokuda (Musashigawa) 5-1 Jd46e Yoshimura (Dewanoumi)6-0 Jd63e Narutaki (Isenoumi)6-0 Jd84e Hokuyozan (Tatsunami) 5-1 Jd89e Toseima (Tamanoi) 5-1 Jk1w Fukuazuma (Tamanoi)6-0 Jk25w Shoji (Musashigawa) Tough one for the schedulers. Bringing his record to 6-0, Mitoryu has moved himself into immediate contention for a promotion to juryo, but unlike most recent lower-rank zensho challenges, this one comes with a top 5 promotion zone that's already chock-full with other credible promotion candidates. They've been very averse to breaking up the normal 6-0 vs 6-0 yusho deciders in recent years (they last did in Natsu 2013), but this time they almost have to, IMHO. But either way, an impressive showing by Kagamio who has got to 6-0 in makushita for the second time in the last 6 basho now. A different issue exists in sandanme with its three contenders, those being the largely expectable Enho and Tanabe plus surprise contender Matsuda. (Although his opponent Ginseizan wouldn't have been any less surprising at 6-0.) The straight-up scheduling would give us Enho-Tanabe and the cross-divisional Matsuda-Tokuda here, but with a rank difference of >50 for both prospective matchups they might well decide to do things differently. I'm not sure at all which way they'll go, but I'm putting my two cents on Tanabe-Matsuda and a 5-1 opponent for Enho. (I'd like two-time makushita yusho winner Higoarashi who's ranked Sd5e, although he'd still need to get to 5-1 tomorrow in the first place.) That whole thing will have knock-on effects on the jonidan race, which I daresay saw wins by the three more interesting contenders. Tokuda and Narutaki are both relatively fresh on the scene, and Hokuyozan was at least the younger side of his 5-0 bout. The rank differences are much better distributed here, so both Tokuda-Narutaki (with a 5-1 for Hokuyozan) and Narutaki-Hokuyozan (with Tokuda against a 5-1, or maybe 6-0 Matsuda from sandanme) would make sense. And down in jonokuchi it was the expected cakewalk for Shoji against Fukuazuma, who has yet to KK above jonidan 85 in his (admittedly not very long) career. Shoji is probably getting the usual coin toss choice from among the available low jonidan 5-1's next, and he's almost certainly winning that. On the other hand, a more inspired choice might be to put him against Hokuyozan (who should be of at least low-sandanme quality), but that's not usually how they roll. 2 1
Asashosakari Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: Tough one for the schedulers. Bringing his record to 6-0, Mitoryu has moved himself into immediate contention for a promotion to juryo, but unlike most recent lower-rank zensho challenges, this one comes with a top 5 promotion zone that's already chock-full with other credible promotion candidates. They've been very averse to breaking up the normal 6-0 vs 6-0 yusho deciders in recent years (they last did in Natsu 2013) ... Just for reference, that Natsu 2013 mess looked like this after 12 days: (1) 3-9 Sagatsukasa J7 J8 Tanzo 3-9 (2) J9 J10(1) 5-7 Kizenryu J11 Kimurayama 3-9 (3)(1) 6-6 Kitaharima J12 Chiyoarashi 6-6 (1)(2) 5-7 Akiseyama J13(2) 6-6 Chiyoo J14 4-2 Seiro Ms1 Yoshiazuma 4-2 3-3 Sakigake Ms2 Kotomisen 3-3 4-2 Endo Ms3 Ms4 Arawashi 3-3 4-2 Chiyomaru Ms5 Ms6 6-0 Osunaarashi Ms7 Osunaarashi was put against J13 Akiseyama and duly won that match to finish 7-0. Things ended up with three regular and three over-demotions: (xx) 4-11 Sagatsukasa J7 J8 J9 J10(xx) 6-9 Kizenryu J11 Kimurayama 3-12 (x)(x) 6-9 Kitaharima J12(xx) 7-8 Akiseyama J13(x) 7-8 Chiyoo J14 (o) 5-2 Seiro Ms1 Yoshiazuma 4-3 (o) Ms2 Kotomisen 4-3 (o)(o) 5-2 Endo Ms3 Ms4 5-2 Chiyomaru Ms5 Ms6(o) 7-0 Osunaarashi Ms7 (If you're wondering why it's 6 down and only 5 up - they also had to find space for Sokokurai who was reinstated in makuuchi on the next banzuke. And ironically, that was the only time in his 6 attempts when Kizenryu would have deserved to stay in juryo based on his record...) Edited September 20, 2017 by Asashosakari 4
Tiger Tanaka Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 One of the highlights of the day after watching the sumo highlights is to come on here and see the promotion/demotion update from @Asashosakari Always appreciate your efforts and analysis. It gives me good context for the next day on key matches and storylines to keep an eye on. Hoping Aminishki can pull off 10 wins to emphatically establish himself in the Makuuchi division again!
Bumpkin Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/20/2017 at 12:03, Bumpkin said: Ms17w Toyonoshima is 4-1. If he goes 6-1 than he should be back in the Makushita top 5. Ms17w Toyonoshima lost on Day 12. He is now 4-2. The last two Ms17's to finish 5-2 were both promoted to Ms10.
Asashosakari Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Day 12 (results, text-only results): kyujo Hakuho Y1 Harumafuji 8-4 kyujo Kisenosato Y2 Kakuryu kyujo 1-2-9 Takayasu O1 Goeido 10-2 Okay, who accidentally used the juryo storybook for the top division today? In all seriousness though - looking oddly tense throughout, Goeido's hectic mix of pushing and pulling wasn't enough to turn over Shohozan, and he left the day with his second loss of the basho. Lucky for him none of the three pursuers did any better, with especially Chiyotairyu looking pretty bad against Kotoshogiku. No less than 7 rikishi collected their kachikoshi today, making for a suddenly 10-strong 8-4 group hoping to chase down the leader from two behind. Among them is yokozuna Harumafuji, but he has arguably (and admirably) served his role for this basho now, helping the Kyokai avoid the first no-yokozuna tournament days in over 10 years, and it remains to be seen how hard he's going to go into his last three bouts. Also KK now: sekiwake Yoshikaze, who will extend his current sanyaku stint to 4 tournaments in Kyushu and be sekiwake back-to-back for the second time in his career. Mitakeumi took a crucial step towards maintaining the rank as well by avoiding his 7th loss against Shodai. Both komusubi do have 5-7 records now, Tamawashi after losing to Harumafuji and Tochiozan after defeating Ichinojo, but one can't rule them out, considering only maegashira opponents are still to come for both. Kotoshogiku's 8th victory now makes it very likely that he'll be staging a return to sanyaku, should any slot open up, and if he can win twice more I imagine he'll force his way in regardless. Onosho and Chiyotairyu may find themselves on the outside looking in despite their first-week festivities. (x) 1-5-6 Terunofuji O2 6-6 Mitakeumi S Yoshikaze 8-4 5-7 Tamawashi K Tochiozan 5-7 M1 Kotoshogiku 8-4 (x) 4-8 Hokutofuji M2 8-4 Onosho M3 Chiyotairyu 8-4 6-6 Shohozan M4 (x) 5-7 Shodai M5 Takakeisho 7-5 (x) 6-6 Ichinojo M6 (x) 6-6 Chiyonokuni M7 Ikioi 6-6 (x) M8 Takarafuji 7-5 (x) 8-4 Takanoiwa M9 Arawashi 8-4 It's Takakeisho for Goeido tomorrow, which could well end up as another dangerous battle for the leader as Takakeisho is capable of overwhelming just about everybody if things click for him in a bout. And in the musubi no ichiban we'll get Harumafuji against Yoshikaze, which tends to be a fun matchup. The bubble list in the lower maegashira ranks is slowly thinning out as guys either secure their ranking or pick up a definite demotion. The plus side of the ledger was filled by veterans Kaisei and Takekaze today - the latter sending Tokushoryu to his 10th loss, which now makes any survival impossible for the Kise-beya rikishi. The hot seat was immediately refilled again, though, courtesy of Yutakayama falling to makekoshi. Other action of the day saw Okinoumi helping himself by beating yusho-contending Takanoiwa, Ishiura finally finding a beatable opponent in suddenly struggling Daishomaru (4th straight loss from 7-1), and Nishikigi arguably losing twice to Chiyoshoma. The juryo crowd is slooowly making its way towards promotable records to fill all those slots that have been opening up. Aminishiki and Kotoyuki clinched kachikoshi today and remain in the virtual lead of the promotion queue. Ryuden lost his spot for now, however, and also had to yield his place atop the yusho race with a loss to Daiamami. And last not least both Myogiryu and Homarefuji were also successful and can continue to hope for a trip to the top division. Homarefuji is riding a 5-day winning streak and has moved himself up to 8-4 after his 0-3 start. M4 Ura 1-2-9 (?) ... (2) 3-9 Ishiura M10 Takekaze 5-7 (o) M11 M12 Sadanoumi 0-7-5 (x) (1) 5-7 Nishikigi M13 Kaisei 7-5 (o) M14 Okinoumi 6-6 (1) (x) 2-10 Tokushoryu M15 Yutakayama 4-8 (~) M16 --- J1 Myogiryu 6-6 (2) (1) 8-4 Aminishiki J2 Azumaryu 4-8 (x) (2) 7-5 Daiamami J3 Kotoyuki 8-4 (1) (x) 5-7 Kyokutaisei J4 (2) 8-4 Ryuden J5 Yamaguchi 5-7 (x) (~) 7-5 Kyokushuho J6 Homarefuji 8-4 (3) (x) 6-6 Hidenoumi J7 Kotoeko and Seiro had a would-be safety playoff today, won by the slender Sadogatake guy, but with the nebulous makushita situation I'm not going to declare him safe just yet - see the Natsu 2013 case detailed above for how things could still turn out. Gagamaru finally won one again after three losses in a row, and finds himself in the same limbo situation. (Did I just use Gagamaru and limbo in the same sentence?) And we're still not done as Terutsuyoshi was also victorious but can't quite be sure to stay either. Elsewhere the day brought losses all around for Osunaarashi, Kitaharima, Yago and Daiseido, capped by Kizenryu's unfortunate injury withdrawal. Off-day for high makushita again, but they arguably had a good day anyway as the overall situation looks a little bit more bleak for the juryo incumbents now. J7 Gagamaru 4-8 (?) J8 J9 Kotoeko 5-7 (?) (2) 4-8 Osunaarashi J10 J11 (3) 4-8 Kitaharima J12 Seiro 6-6 (1) (?) 7-5 Terutsuyoshi J13 Yago 5-7 (2) (1) 7-5 Daiseido J14 Kizenryu 6-6 (2) 4-2 Takagenji Ms1 Kitataiki 3-3 4-2 Tobizaru Ms2 5-1 Masunosho Ms3 Kizaki 3-3 Ms4 Akiseyama 3-3 4-2 Daishoho Ms5 Shimanoumi 4-2 ... 6-0 Mitoryu Ms14 Kizenryu's exit means we're needing a mandatory fill-in again each day, and Tobizaru gets the honours first. He's been placed in the most sensible matchup and will have the opportunity to pull Kitaharima back down to the unpaid ranks. Whether it'll be enough to earn promotion himself is a different matter though. Takagenji and Daishoho won't be sent up as they're already meeting head-to-head tomorrow, and it looks like Masunosho and Shimanoumi are also pencilled in for makushita opponents. That should mean that the Day 14 and 15 visitors will be two out of Kitataiki, Kizaki and Akiseyama. In addition juryo sees Osunaarashi and Gagamaru matched up tomorrow, while all the rest will be forced to deal with upper-juryo opponents. Edited September 21, 2017 by Asashosakari 9 1
Asashosakari Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Juryo yusho race: 8-4 Aminishiki, Kotoyuki, Ryuden, Homarefuji 7-5 Daiamami, Kyokushuho, Meisei, Chiyootori, Chiyonoo, Abi, Terutsuyoshi, Daiseido 6-6 (6) Juryo rikishi sharing the lead are 10-21 in their next-day bouts this basho (not counting head-to-head meetings), and Ryuden became part of the right-hand number today, losing to Daiamami. 3 of the 4 pursuers did manage to win and moved up into shared first place again, with Homarefuji making his first appearance atop the leaderboard. I wouldn't bet on any of them actually finishing the basho 11-4, so the also re-enlarged chase group probably still has a shot. We've got direct matchups aplenty tomorrow, in any case. Three different pairings of an 8-4 with a 7-5, namely Kotoyuki-Chiyonoo, Ryuden-Daiseido and Homarefuji-Meisei, and also two straight clashes of 7-5's in Daiamami-Chiyootori and Kyokushuho-Terutsuyoshi. The odd men out are co-leader Aminishiki who has been placed against 6-6 Hidenoumi, and co-pursuer Abi who meets 4-8 Toyohibiki. Lower division yusho races: 6-0 Ms14e Mitoryu (Nishikido) 6-0 Ms49w Kagamio (Kagamiyama) 6-0 Sd18w Enho (Miyagino) 6-0 Sd71w Tanabe (Kise) 6-0 Sd82e Matsuda (Minezaki) 6-0 Jd34e Tokuda (Musashigawa) 6-0 Jd63e Narutaki (Isenoumi) 6-0 Jd84e Hokuyozan (Tatsunami) 6-0 Jk25w Shoji (Musashigawa) Boooring! They've gone with the straight-up choices for the entire slate. I'm hoping against hope that Kagamio can upset his much bigger and younger compatriot, but I'm afraid the outcome will be a clear victory the other way, paving the way for a 7-0 promotion from down low over an arguably more deserving top-ranker. Former Kanazawa Gakuin training partners Enho and Tanabe are meeting in regulation for third straight tournament, and the first two were pretty decisive in Enho's favour. Maybe Tanabe has learned to keep low and guarded enough to not allow Enho to get in for the hip/thigh push-out, but I suspect not. Either way, I think this will be a straight sandanme yusho decider as I'd rate Tokuda as the favourite for the cross-divisional bout against Matsuda. Should that come to pass we'll get the playoff in jonidan instead, and I won't venture a guess who'd be the other participant, as Narutaki-Hokuyozan is probably the most open bout of this 6-0 session. And finally it's Shoji against 5-1 Imai, who's holding down the very last spot in jonidan this basho, 107 West. It's the first time in his 8-basho career that Imai has 5 wins to begin with (2x 4-3, five makekoshi), and I doubt it's going to become a 6-win basho for him now. But as always, everything can (and probably will) go completely different. Edited September 21, 2017 by Asashosakari 1 2
Asashosakari Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Almost forgot that it was an even-numbered day again. new KK: Takagenji, Shimanoumi, Asabenkei, Sakigake, Kaonishiki new MK: Tochihiryu, Oiwato, Amuru, Wakanoshima, Nionoumi, Kotomisen, Masakaze 10 ex-sekitori are finding themselves on 3-3. Record Rank Shikona Heya Age Out 4-2 Ms1e Takagenji Takanohana 20 2 3-3 Ms1w Kitataiki Yamahibiki 34 1 4-2 Ms2e Tobizaru Oitekaze 25 1 2-4 Ms2w Tochihiryu Kasugano 30 16 3-3 Ms4w Akiseyama Kise 32 8 4-2 Ms5e Daishoho Oitekaze 23 5 4-2 Ms5w Shimanoumi Kise 28 7 kyujo Ms6e Rikishin Tatsunami 21 1 2-4 Ms6w Oiwato Hakkaku 36 23 3-3 Ms7e Satoyama Onoe 36 1 4-2 Ms8w Asabenkei Takasago 28 6 3-3 Ms9e Jokoryu Kise 29 8 1-5 Ms10e Fujiazuma Tamanoi 30 3 3-3 Ms11e Dewahayate Dewanoumi 28 7 5-1 Ms11w Asahisho Tomozuna 28 2 0-6 Ms12w Sagatsukasa Irumagawa 35 21 3-3 Ms13w Takaryu Kise 25 13 2-4 Ms15e Amuru Onomatsu 34 4 3-3 Ms17e Tokushinho Kise 33 11 4-2 Ms17w Toyonoshima Tokitsukaze 34 6 2-4 Ms18e Chiyoarashi Kokonoe 26 25 1-2-3 Ms19w Higonojo Kise 32 20 3-3 Ms21w Tenkaiho Onoe 32 8 3-3 Ms23w Keitenkai Onomatsu 27 30 1-4-1 Ms26e Sotairyu Tokitsukaze 35 15 kyujo Ms41w Shotenro Fujishima 35 9 2-4 Ms43e Wakanoshima Shibatayama 32 4 2-4 Ms45w Nionoumi Yamahibiki 30 25 6-0 Ms49w Kagamio Kagamiyama 29 8 4-2 Ms50w Sakigake Shibatayama 31 16 2-4 Ms54w Kotomisen Sadogatake 34 23 1-2-3 Sd3e Dairaido Takadagawa 37 66 4-2 Sd17e Hitenryu Tatsunami 33 36 4-2 Sd25e Kaonishiki Azumazeki 39 36 1-5 Sd34e Yoshiazuma Tamanoi 40 18 2-4 Sd48e Masakaze Oguruma 34 29 3-3 Sd49e Masunoyama Chiganoura 26 15 intai Sd70w Dewaotori Dewanoumi 31 64 Edited September 21, 2017 by Asashosakari 1
Gurowake Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Masunoyama is a bit of a surprise to me to be struggling in mid-Sd. I watched his Day 1 match and thought his loss was mainly due to complacency as his far smaller opponent got a quick hold of his belt and kept him off balance. I wouldn't be surprised if he put on too much weight in his time off and lost a great deal of agility. His even record through 12 days suggests that he's just not much better, if at all, than the guys in that area of the banzuke now.
rhyen Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Kagamio beats Mitoryu and delays his debut. 1
Washuyama Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 16 hours ago, Asashosakari said: (Did I just use Gagamaru and limbo in the same sentence?) Can't think of a scarier/funnier combination that has ever been written....
Benihana Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Washuyama said: Can't think of a scarier/funnier combination that has ever been written.... But it's not as you think, it's even worse. He doesn't do the limbo, you have to limbo his back end! The thought makes want to throw up and laugh my arse off at the same time.
Asashosakari Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Day 13 (results, text-only results): kyujo Hakuho Y1 Harumafuji 9-4 kyujo Kisenosato Y2 Kakuryu kyujo 1-2-10 Takayasu O1 Goeido 10-3 And now things have become really juryo-like. Leader Goeido was put on the defensive by Takakeisho right from the tachiai and just a few seconds of backpedalling later it was all over for him. Yokozuna Harumafuji, far from looking to take it easy after gaining his KK, blasted right into an unprepared Yoshikaze in the final bout of the day and improved his score to 9-4, just one win off the leader's pace. With their matchup still to come on senshuraku the yusho decision is suddenly wide open again. Yoshikaze was one of the other 9 pursuers and stays at two behind, and so do most of the others - in fact, the second rikishi to join Harumafuji at 9 wins was also an inevitability as 8-4's Asanoyama and Daieisho met each other, with top division debutant Asanoyama on the winning end. The remaining 6 quasi-contenders joined Yoshikaze and Daieisho in going home with a loss today, and their list includes all of Kotoshogiku, Onosho and Chiyotairyu, our main contenders for a promotion to sanyaku for Kyushu basho. It did become a bit more likely than one of them will actually get promoted after komusubi Tochiozan wasn't able to avoid the makekoshi for a third day, losing to Kagayaki. The spot vacated by him is technically in demoted ozeki Terunofuji's hands for now, but sekiwake Mitakeumi improved to 7-6 against Ichinojo to increase the chances for a three-sekiwake banzuke which would allow a maegashira to move up. And of course there might still be even more room in the end - Tamawashi is still teetering, though he staved off his demotion with victory over Aoiyama for now. (x) 1-5-7 Terunofuji O2 7-6 Mitakeumi S Yoshikaze 8-5 6-7 Tamawashi K Tochiozan 5-8 (x) M1 Kotoshogiku 8-5 M2 8-5 Onosho M3 Chiyotairyu 8-5 7-6 Shohozan M4 M5 Takakeisho 8-5 ... (x) 8-5 Takanoiwa M9 Arawashi 8-5 (x) Today's mostly losing efforts by the 8-4 cluster have made it less urgent, but as noted by Gurowake last night, they did a nice job of matching up nearly all those guys + Goeido for Day 14. As it stands we could get anything from Goeido clinching an early yusho tomorrow, to things getting really messy and ending up as an unprecedented 10-5 championship score after playoffs. In any case, the pairing efforts mean that Goeido does not face his next-in-line Ichinojo tomorrow, but rather gets Takanoiwa, the highest-ranked 8-4 (now 8-5) rikishi he hadn't met yet. Harumafuji does get his expected opponent, but it's of course a much bigger nominal challenge anyway in the form of KK-seeking sekiwake Mitakeumi. And our third main yusho contender Asanoyama gets pulled up to battle Onosho, his very first joi-jin opponent (of probably many to come in his career). Sadanoumi finally cleared the goose egg from his wins column, beating demotion candidate Nishikigi today. Okinoumi and Ishiura lost as well so the situation is largely unchanged, just with all of them having one fewer opportunity to get to safe shores now. Ishiura in particular may rue this as already-demoted Tokushoryu was arguably the most beatable opponent they still had available for him. And speaking of already demoted, Yutakayama picked up loss #9 today and should be impossible to keep now. There's also finally some definitive news on the juryo side where Aminishiki and Kotoyuki improved to 9-4, putting themselves into standard promotable territory. Kotoyuki could probably do with another win just to make totally sure, but I reckon Aminishiki has done enough to return to the top division a year and a half after his leg injury took him out of action. Daiamami and Myogiryu were also successful on Day 13 and look on course to secure promotions, while Ryuden lost again and has a bit of an uphill battle now. Homarefuji has 6 straight wins, however, and remains in the mix. M4 Ura 1-2-10 (?) ... (2) 3-10 Ishiura M10 M11 M12 Sadanoumi 1-7-5 (x) (1) 5-8 Nishikigi M13 M14 Okinoumi 6-7 (1) (x) 3-10 Tokushoryu M15 Yutakayama 4-9 (x) M16 --- J1 Myogiryu 7-6 (1) (o) 9-4 Aminishiki J2 (1) 8-5 Daiamami J3 Kotoyuki 9-4 (o) J4 (2) 8-5 Ryuden J5 (~) 8-5 Kyokushuho J6 Homarefuji 9-4 (2) The biggest juryo/makushita news of the day was the exchange matchup of Kitaharima and Tobizaru, which ended with victory for the lower-ranked visitor. That ought to be enough to take Kitaharima back down to makushita, along with Kizenryu whose absence from the Day 14 schedule now guarantees his unfortunate 7th juryo makekoshi in 7 attempts. One of the two slots is certain to go to young Takagenji, who ends his basho at just 4-3 after losing to Daishoho today, but that's still going to be enough from the very first spot in the division. Slot #2 is notionally in Tobizaru's hands now, but he could still get passed by Masunosho tomorrow. Everything else is up to how many further juryo denizens end up booking a ticket to the unpaid ranks. One promotion contender who won't be moving up this time was already decided though, as Mitoryu lost a back-and-forth bout to low-ranked veteran Kagamio. Further Day 13 juryo action saw Osunaarashi beating Gagamaru, as well as wins by Seiro, Yago, Daiseido (debut KK!) and Kotoeko. The latter two are now safe for the next tournament, while Yago definitely still needs one more victory and Seiro has moved into bubble territory (with a very good position though). Terutsuyoshi joined Gagamaru and Kitaharima on the losing side of the day, ending his 5-bout winning streak. J7 Gagamaru 4-9 (?) J8 J9 Kotoeko 6-7 (o) (1) 5-8 Osunaarashi J10 J11 (x) 4-9 Kitaharima J12 Seiro 7-6 (?) (?) 7-6 Terutsuyoshi J13 Yago 6-7 (1) (o) 8-5 Daiseido J14 Kizenryu 6-6-1 (x) (o) 4-3 Takagenji Ms1 Kitataiki 3-3 5-2 Tobizaru Ms2 5-1 Masunosho Ms3 Kizaki 3-3 Ms4 Akiseyama 3-3 5-2 Daishoho Ms5 Shimanoumi 4-2 ... (x) 6-1 Mitoryu Ms14 Home stretch juryo visitor #2 will be Kitataiki tomorrow, going against Osunaarashi. Yago gets 8-5 Kyokushuho (still kinda sorta in the yusho and promotion races), and Masunosho and Akiseyama are active in makushita as expected. Edited September 22, 2017 by Asashosakari 4 3
Gurowake Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 I don't think Akiseyama has any chance at promotion. I highly doubt a Ms4 4-3 is going to force an overdemotion, and there are 4 guys ahead of him already for the 4 possible normal demotions.
Asashosakari Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gurowake said: I don't think Akiseyama has any chance at promotion. I highly doubt a Ms4 4-3 is going to force an overdemotion, and there are 4 guys ahead of him already for the 4 possible normal demotions. Bad phrasing on my part. By "everything else" I meant the possible nature of any further promotion outcomes is still undecided, not that everybody in the top 5 actually has a personal chance.
Gurowake Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Asashosakari said: Bad phrasing on my part. By "everything else" I meant the possible nature of any further promotion outcomes is still undecided, not that everybody in the top 5 actually has a personal chance. I was just saying that Akiseyama probably should get an (x). I didn't mean to respond to anything in particular.
Asashosakari Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Juryo yusho race: 9-4 Aminishiki, Kotoyuki, Homarefuji 8-5 Daiamami, Ryuden, Kyokushuho, Abi, Daiseido 7-6 Myogiryu, Meisei, Amakaze, Chiyootori, Chiyonoo, Seiro, Terutsuyoshi An astounding 3-1 record by the juryo leaders today; only Ryuden missed out with his loss to Daiseido which leaves these two in the new 8-5 chase group. They're joined by Kyokushuho and Daiamami who prevailed over fellow pursuers, plus Abi. Kotoyuki has already faced his two co-leaders, who in turn can't meet each other at all as they're both from Isegahama-beya. That means the 7-6's are technically still in the race here (for a possible 9-6 yusho score), but there are ways to engineer at least one 10-5: We get two leader-pursuer matchups tomorrow with Aminishiki-Abi and Kotoyuki-Daiseido. (Homarefuji meets 7-6 Amakaze.) If all three leaders lose, that'll necessarily mean that Abi and Daiseido are joining a 9-5 lead group, which would allow the scheduling of various head-to-head meetings for Day 15 to push somebody to 10 wins. Lower division yusho races (Day 13 results and video): 6-1 Ms14e Mitoryu (Nishikido)7-0 Ms49w Kagamio (Kagamiyama) 7-0 Sd18w Enho (Miyagino) 6-1 Sd71w Tanabe (Kise)7-0 Sd82e Matsuda (Minezaki) 6-1 Jd34e Tokuda (Musashigawa)7-0 Jd63e Narutaki (Isenoumi) 6-1 Jd84e Hokuyozan (Tatsunami) 7-0 Jk25w Shoji (Musashigawa) All hail the committee! I take back everything I said about Kagamio being a subpar choice as Mitoryu's final opponent. After a real see-saw battle the 29-year-old veteran secured his second career yusho, following a victory in juryo back in Natsu 2015. Mitoryu should still get promoted to the top 5 ranks for a "proper" promotion opportunity next time. In fact, he might well meet Kagamio there again. Tanabe gave it a good shot and managed to keep Enho at distance for a good long while - until he couldn't and the bout finished in basically the same way as their previous two meetings. Big bump coming for Enho who will move up into the makushita top 15 ranks for Kyushu where a much sterner test awaits him. He's not fully done for this basho anyway as Matsuda surprised an overeager-looking Tokuda with a beautiful nichonage to put himself at 7-0 as well. His yusho playoff with Enho will take place on the final day in between the juryo and makuuchi action as is customary. Tokuda's loss belatedly turned the Narutaki-Hokuyozan contest into a yusho-deciding bout, and these two were evenly matched as expected and had a very nifty little bout that was eventually won by rookie Narutaki. He'll find himself in mid-sandanme next time out and I suspect that's going to be a tough road for him. And last not least: Shoji had no trouble at all securing his 7-0 jonokuchi yusho against 5-1 jonidan Imai. I'm not super-impressed by his sumo, however, and while he should have no problems KK'ing in high jonidan in November, I would be a bit surprised if he's a part of the yusho race again. Edited September 22, 2017 by Asashosakari because Enho is not Endo... 3 2
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