Ura - Yokozuna Bandwagon

[Jyuunomori]

And. Here. We. GO.

Going to show some love to this topic as well. Ura is doing what Ura does.

Edited July 17, 2017 by Jyuunomori

[Kaminariyuki]

Sugoi deshita! (That was awesome!)

The only thing better than having my two favorite wrestlers head-to-head? My two favorite wrestlers in the final two bouts of the day, and both of them winning. It will not always be this sweet, but it is today.

 

[Seijakuzan]

17 hours ago, Thundersnow said:

Tomorrow, he flukes big time and catches Harumafuji in a bad spot for a kinboshi.

And what a "fluke" it was!

[WAKATAKE]

Maybe, just maybe we can say "shin-wazano-depaato?"

[bettega]

Oh man, the tottari on HMF was nice, very very smart. That "I was just doing my sumo" surely hides lots of studing his oponents and training

[Kaminariyuki]

11 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

Maybe, just maybe we can say "shin-wazano-depaato?"

The mind's technique? My Japanese is thin and Google translate's not much better.

[Bumpkin]

58 minutes ago, Thundersnow said:

The mind's technique? My Japanese is thin and Google translate's not much better.

The new department store of techniques.

[Onibushou]

The 新 shin as in new, like shin-Ozeki Takayasu, etc (not 心 like Tochinoshin).

[Kaminariyuki]

Well, our boy missed KK by one bout, but he acquitted himself well enough, particularly considering that knee injury from the Takayasu bout (one of my personal favorites from the basho, despite it not being "normal" sumo) Ura is not a normal wrestler, generally.

We'll see if he can regroup and maybe tag another KK in September.

Does anyone know the status of his injury, how he's doing, etc? Is he on tour with the traveling makuuchi contingent?

 

[orandashoho]

On ‎30‎.‎07‎.‎2017 at 01:30, Thundersnow said:

Does anyone know the status of his injury, how he's doing, etc? Is he on tour with the traveling makuuchi contingent?

Seems he dropped out of the jungyo because of this.
http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/36307-natsu-jungyo-2017/?do=findComment&comment=340268

[Burajirotono]

Why put pressure on the little guy?

Sumo needs guys like Ura, Yoshikaze, Kotoshogiku and Ichinojo; they may dont be yokozuna type...But, boy, they sure are some cool rikishi!

 

[ny32986]

ura is in the top 30 all time according to this tvasahi special 

 

[Akinomaki]

On 8/15/2017 at 04:50, ny32986 said:

ura is in the top 30 all time according to this tvasahi special 

On 8/2/2017 at 18:30, Akinomaki said:

It was the top 30 of the most amazing rikishi (mottomo sugoi), not necessarily the strongest or greatest rikishi -those get voted for at the Osaka museum, but the top is likely the same: Chiyonofuji.

Still, Ura is named among the possible yokozuna for 2020, but in the infamous Shukan Post, by sumo fan and writer Michitsuna Takahashi https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/高橋三千綱 - http://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20170815_602342.html

He has on his 2020 GTB as east and west yokozuna Ura and Shodai:

All 4 present yokozuna retired by then, Ura turns into a Tochinishiki "the pit viper" clone, Shodai learns from Hakuho and transforms. 3rd yokozuna then is Takayasu.

Edited August 16, 2017 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki]

21 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Still, Ura is named among the possible yokozuna for 2020, but in the infamous Shukan Post, by sumo fan and writer Michitsuna Takahashi https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/高橋三千綱 - http://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20170815_602342.html

He has on his 2020 GTB as east and west yokozuna Ura and Shodai:

All 4 present yokozuna retired by then, Ura turns into a Tochinishiki "the pit viper" clone, Shodai learns from Hakuho and transforms. 3rd yokozuna then is Takayasu.

But Takayasu is given as the forecast of ex-NHK Sugiyama there - Takahashi has him dropped to maegashira in the next article. http://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20170816_602347.html

Shukan Post has the articles from their tabloid in chunks on the net, and one contradicts the other.

Sugiyama in the 2nd has Hakuho and Kisenosato and Toshiro Kandagawa (the expert in Japanese cuisine) has Takayasu with Hakuho, while ex-NSK committee member Yaku Mitsuru thinks there will be no-yokozuna then. And Goeido and Terunofuji remaining ozeki is in no forecast.

Edited August 16, 2017 by Akinomaki

[Asashosakari]

Kakizoe zensho-yusho! Wait, what?

[Benihana]

I hate it, when you post japanese articles and google translate spits out a chunk of gibberish.

[orandashoho]

On ‎8‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 04:50, ny32986 said:

tvasahi special 

Can someone tell me how to read the the graphic pentagrams in the bottom right corner of the rikishi's statistics?

[RabidJohn]

1 hour ago, orandashoho said:

Can someone tell me how to read the the graphic pentagrams in the bottom right corner of the rikishi's statistics?

On Jason's talk-over he said it was the age distributon of the voters.

[Abarosh]

Ura is special int he best way you can use this word, and probably has potential to evolve, but... certainly not comparable to Hakuho (yet). If I take the basketball example, any no one dares comparing a NBA rookie to Michael Jordan (I hereby compare Hakuho to Michael Jordan).

The comparison to Chiyonofuji is making a bit more sense, yet it is too early, way too early.  

We have all seen shining starts that are like comets who show a lovely display and eventually disappear.  The next year or two will show if Ura can adapt, and improve, both on technical and mental side (don't disrespect the immense pressure any such athlete experience).  

Having said all of that, he is one of my favourites, and is a super-duper joy to follow.  I hope he will be as successful as you suggest, but I will be excited seeing him as an Ozeki.

[Kaminariyuki]

On 8/19/2017 at 04:02, Abarosh said:

Having said all of that, he is one of my favourites, and is a super-duper joy to follow.  I hope he will be as successful as you suggest, but I will be excited seeing him as an Ozeki.

LOL, I completely agree. I guess he'll drop a bit in the banzuke, but I'm just hoping for a solid KK in September. We'll see where everyone is starting from this basho soon enough. Ura scored a couple of very impressive wins last tournament (Tochinoshin and Harumafuji for a kinboshi), but then the injury against Takayasu took him down pretty good the second week. I'd love to see a couple more impressive surprise wins and a KK. That would be very respectable for his 4th Makuuchi showing, IMO.

[Andreas21]

On 14.7.2017 at 22:27, Sokkenaiyama said:

I don't see anything "mid" about 192 cm and 153 kg.

Probably, Hakuho is the second tallest Yokozuna ever.

(I'm failed in the research as I don't know the field name for size in Sumo-DB. I think it is a fair bet as they used to be smaller in the old days.)

[Andreas21]

On 16.7.2017 at 04:39, Seijakuzan said:

Baruto had no imagination/technique

Phew, that is a rugged assertion!

I actually think, he had and needed a lot of both. As the heaviest and nearly tallest he mostly had a speed disadvantage. With a high center of gravity and bad knees, opponents mostly get the superior grip position. But what he accomplished had been decent. He had the power, and was clever enough to put it in position.

[Benihana]

43 minutes ago, Andreas21 said:

Probably, Hakuho is the second tallest Yokozuna ever.

(I'm failed in the research as I don't know the field name for size in Sumo-DB. I think it is a fair bet as they used to be smaller in the old days.)

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=1&n_basho=1&rowcount=5&showheight=on&form1_rank=y

3rd tallest, modern era. Are those measurements trustworthy? Mmmh...

[dada78641]

So Hakuho is one of the tallest ever of the modern era, and yet Akebono was a full 11 cm taller than him...

[Yatagarasu]

I adore Ura, but I do wonder if he'll make yokozuna.  Having said that, there seems to be a changing of the guard on the horizon, with most of the top flights getting older/wracked with recurring injury.  Hakuho will only be around for so many more years, I expect Kakuryu will (alas) need to retire in the near future and Harumafuji is just about keeping his body taped together.  Terunofuji is similarly fragile (which is partly on account of the pressure to participate before full match fitness due to the threat of demotion - a whole other debate) and I don't forecast a strong future for him.  A window of opportunity may appear for Ura in this way.  I predict that Mitakeumi and Takayasu will be Ura's strongest nemeses in the future, particularly as Mitakeumi was of the same intake.  

Ironically Ura's appeal - and success - lies in his size.  He has had to cultivate a more imaginative repertoire precisely because he has neither a weight nor height advantage.  He can use the more acrobatic techniques because he is agile enough to carry them off and is almost balletic in terms of being light on his feet (check out the backflip https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/sumo/wrestlers/31/).  If he gains too much weight for his build, while he might gain more momentum in terms of oshi-zumo, he risks losing that magical agility upon which he depends.  For this reason I think his success may, regrettably, hit its ceiling at a rank before yokozuna, despite his intelligence and capacity to learn quickly from experience.  

 

Nonetheless, his tegata occupies pride of place on my mantelpiece!

 

In the interim, you fellow bandwagoners (particularly those who say he has learned from Hakuko) may appreciate a chuckle at this: