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Basho Talk - Hatsu Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)


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Ichinojo has the record that he should have for the low rank that he is at. Good to see that he's healthier and fighting harder than last basho.

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Great win by Hokutofuji. Chiyotairyu threw everything except the kitchen sink at him. 

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12 minutes ago, Tsubame said:

Someone else thinking that it is a neat coincidence that Kakuryu goes kyujo when he is about to face Kotoshogiku... :D

I think the fact he was looking terrible and still has to face Kise, Goeido, Terunofuji and Hak had more to do with it. He was staring MK straight in the face. If he had took a chance and lost to Giku it would have been a disaster.

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5 minutes ago, Rocks said:
20 minutes ago, Tsubame said:

Someone else thinking that it is a neat coincidence that Kakuryu goes kyujo when he is about to face Kotoshogiku... :D

I think the fact he was looking terrible and still has to face Kise, Goeido, Terunofuji and Hak had more to do with it. He was staring MK straight in the face. If he had took a chance and lost to Giku it would have been a disaster.

He should have made that decision sooner; 5-5 is bad for a yokozuna but would have looked better and at least *even*. 5-6 is a disaster.

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2 hours ago, Rocks said:

Great win by Hokutofuji. Chiyotairyu threw everything except the kitchen sink at him. 

Throwing the kitchen sink is hansoku. Always.

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I've been finding that the since last year the yusho races have stayed very interesting. 

Kise had that "yoyuu" type face when facing Endo, I think he was thinking he wasn't going to lose to him, but he was playing a pretty dangerous game there.

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3 hours ago, Rocks said:

Great win by Hokutofuji. Chiyotairyu threw everything except the kitchen sink at him. 

That was super frustrating to watch. Chiyotairyu has the talent to be a Joi mainstay and he insists on trying to win every bout the same way, by the pull down. Every one of those powerful shoves he gave Hokotofuji was just there to set up the pull down and Hokotofuji knew it, which is why he was able to maintain his  balance and win. Chiyotairyu has so much power - if he would just follow a shove with another shove then another he would win a lot more. Instead he is just a one trick pony always looking for a pull down. Aaaarghh! So frustrating, he could do so much better!

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The "changing of the guard" also seems to have some previous Joi regulars in decline as well - both Tochiozan and Myogiryu look shadows of their former selves and both were talked about as possible Ozekis once. 

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42 minutes ago, Morty said:

The "changing of the guard" also seems to have some previous Joi regulars in decline as well - both Tochiozan and Myogiryu look shadows of their former selves and both were talked about as possible Ozekis once. 

Again, exactly what I thought watching the matches today. When I started watching, they were the names brought up as the clear ozeki candidates. Doesn't always work that way.

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I need to get this off my chest. It will seem completely random but I have paid attention to his downfall and my heart bleeds looking at his record. How can someone who went 10-5 to be M2w. Then go into such a massive decline that it doesn't even seem real. When this rikihi first got a  2-13 Makekoshi and 4-11 Makekoshi I thought that he would bounce back because he clearly was better than that.

Oh how has Sadanofuji fallen. I was certain he would make it to become Komusubi or Sekiwake in 2015 because of the improvement he showed back in 2014. But what the hell happened to him? He is dropping and dropping and will be Sandame soon. :(

His record makes me freaking cringe everytime I look at it.

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19 minutes ago, Naganoyama said:

Anyone can of course have some undeclared illness, say diabetes, that affects their performance.

Chiyotairyu has declared diabetes - and may be on his last legs (feet)

4 hours ago, Morty said:

Chiyotairyu has so much power - if he would just follow a shove with another shove then another he would win a lot more.

 

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Oh, man, what a tense basho this is. Favorite win of the day was Gagamaru. It's moments like that I cheer for. My favorite match of the day was Mitakeumi v. Takekaze. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Dwale said:

Oh, man, what a tense basho this is. Favorite win of the day was Gagamaru. It's moments like that I cheer for. My favorite match of the day was Mitakeumi v. Takekaze. 

 

Yeah that Gagamura knockdown slap was amazing.

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9 hours ago, Rocks said:

I have a feeling the yusho will be decided by then.

Do you mean Hak will lose again and Kise not? I predict when they face each other both of them are at 12 wins. 

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11 minutes ago, Dapeng said:

Do you mean Hak will lose again and Kise not? I predict when they face each other both of them are at 12 wins. 

I think Hak will lose again and I don't expect Goeido to go very hard against Kise since he has his KK. I think Kise beats Ikioi easily along with whoever else they use to fill in. Probably Takekaze.

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