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Basho Talk - Hatsu Basho 2017 ** (SPOILERS)


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I had a bad feeling about Kise at the shikiri, and said so in stream chat. He was breathing hard and looked nervous. So did Giku, but he can handle it better. Kise falls apart when he gets tense. And he did. Hopefully he can get his head screwed back on straight for today.

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Sokokurai wanted to win against Ichinojo bad. He looked pretty upset after losing. But he got beat every step of the way. Easy win for Ichi. 

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Sumo is doing pretty well lately right? Can someone please explain to me why the heck they can't spend a few bucks and fix that dang hole the sheetrock in the East hallway already? It's been like that for over a year now.

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Sokokurai wanted to win against Ichinojo bad. He looked pretty upset after losing. But he got beat every step of the way. Easy win for Ichi. 

I'm really not sure what Sokokurai was trying to do there. Did he think he could simply out-muscle Ichinojo with some forward-moving sumo? It was a weird decision from an ambi-turner that could have circled around Ichinojo in either direction. 

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1 hour ago, Kuroyama said:

I had a bad feeling about Kise at the shikiri, and said so in stream chat. He was breathing hard and looked nervous. So did Giku, but he can handle it better. Kise falls apart when he gets tense. And he did. Hopefully he can get his head screwed back on straight for today.

After I saw the match between Kisenosato and Kotoshogiku, I thought: "It's time to find a good therapist, Kisenosato!"
I'm not sure why he clinches at almost every one of his career's most important bouts, but I'm certain, that it's something in his head. Usually he looks very calm, and focused. But then these matches come... 

It would be an interesting idea for him. I'm not sure if any rikishi receive mental help from professionals, but in Kisenosato's case, it would be advised. 
Does anyone know about therapists connected to any heya? 

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I don't really buy the "Kisenosato chokes" narrative, he still has a losing record against the majority of the top dogs, certainly a large enough number to account for him not having any championships. 

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has anyone thought of the possibility that takanoiwa might take this off? last july he was 12 - 3 and jun yusho from m10, put one more to it and it isnt impossible if things continue like the last few days!

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42 minutes ago, hamcornheinz said:

I don't really buy the "Kisenosato chokes" narrative, he still has a losing record against the majority of the top dogs, certainly a large enough number to account for him not having any championships. 

Unfortunately, he has 12 jun-yushos against 0 yusho, which speaks for itself.   That record is hard to argue against "Kise does not choke" theory.  Kise can fix the perception by winning 5 - 6 yushos.   

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Osunaarashi has got Ichinojo on Day 11 now. I swear they would have done him a bigger favor if they had left him in juryo.

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22 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Osunaarashi has got Ichinojo on Day 11 now. I swear they would have done him a bigger favor if they had left him in juryo.

If he is injured or nursing injury, he'd even lose in juryo.  

At top level pro sports, having and playing with injury is norm.  Some "body" can endure it better than others.  Perhaps, Osu's body is not cut out for ozumo life.   Ever since I've got into sumo watching, he appears to be injured more than healthy.

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Kitataiki  just committed the most blatant hair pull ever. Asahisho actually pointed at his head at the end to make sure they saw it. They did. DQ for Kitataiki. Also, MK for Kita.

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4 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Kitataiki  just committed the most blatant hair pull ever. Asahisho actually pointed at his head at the end to make sure they saw it. They did. DQ for Kitataiki. Also, MK for Kita.

One of the few matches I've got to see live. Asahisho pointing at his hair and flopping his hair around was fun.

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Wow, Aminishiki lost and is 3-7 so a MK for sure here. Looked very tired. That puts him 1 MK away from makushita. We may be looking at and end of an era if he can't get it together in March.

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24 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Wow, Aminishiki lost and is 3-7 so a MK for sure here. Looked very tired. That puts him 1 MK away from makushita. We may be looking at and end of an era if he can't get it together in March.

I think he is done.  At his age, it's going to be an uphill battle to come back.  His reflex is gone.  His tricks are well known.   Young kids are just too strong.   It's time for Ami to exit with some dignity. 

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Wow, that long match took everything out of  Osunaarashi. It looked like he was going to be sick walking back in. Poor guy.

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5 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Wow, that long match took everything out of  Osunaarashi. It looked like he was going to be sick walking back in. Poor guy.

Saw a bit of hobbling by Osu after the match.  He can't be healthy.   For the 1st half of the last basho, he was unbeatable in juryo.  Since then, he's not the same. 

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Given that Goeido (GOEIDO) pulled out a zensho yusho, I wouldn't go as far to guarantee that Hakuho will never zensho again. Anybody can get lucky, nothing is certain.

The whole narrative that Hakuho is pulling the strings from his UFO is laughable at best. Nothing to take seriously.

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4 minutes ago, MumboJumbo said:

 

The whole narrative that Hakuho is pulling the strings from his UFO is laughable at best. Nothing to take seriously.

 

There are conspiracy theorists in every forum.   :-(

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That charge by Chiyoshoma and kenka by Ishiura was almost comical.   Chiyshoma would have lost even if Ishiura didn't grab/touch Chiyoshoma.

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