Most Makuuchi Wins in a calendar year.

[Rocks]

This is interesting. For the first time in 10 years, barring a terrible basho or kyujo from both Kisenosato AND Harumafuji, someone other than Hakuho will have the most wins in makuuchi in a calendar year. Now if Hakuho wasn't kyujo this basho he would very likely have the most but still it's something.

Standings as of today:

Rikishi	1    >			Sum (1..6)
	Date	Rank	Record
Kisenosato	2016.01	O1e	9-6	56
Harumafuji	2016.01	Y1e	12-3 J	55
Hakuho	2016.01	Y1w	12-3 J	51
Goeido	2016.01	O2w	4-11	46
Takayasu	2016.01	M8w	11-4	46
Kakuryu	2016.01	Y2e	10-5	43
Kotoshogiku	2016.01	O2e	14-1 Y	42

Query: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=6&n_basho=1&show_total=on&form1_year=2016&form1_month=1&form1_m=on&sort_by=sum_total

Edited September 24, 2016 by Rocks

[shumitto]

Ironically, as far as consistency goes, Kisenosato has been the best Ozeki for years and this year is the best overall, but so far he has failed to convert that effort into a title. It is very frustrating.

Also, this table shows that Kakuryu has been no better than an average Ozeki this year. I suspect that soon they will show him the door.

 

[Katooshu]

Kise for rikishi of the year

[Rocks]

24 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

Kise for rikishi of the year

It's funny they don't do some calendar year awards like most wins, greatest number of kimarite used or something.

[Bumpkin]

Is there a list of the rikishi who had the most wins in each year?

Edited September 24, 2016 by Bumpkin

[K. Sear]

3 hours ago, shumitto said:

Also, this table shows that Kakuryu has been no better than an average Ozeki this year. I suspect that soon they will show him the door.

 

The 2-2-11 has a lot to do with that.  Make that an "average ozeki" basho and he is right up there with the other top performers.  He's not being shown any doors.

[Rocks]

2 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

Is there a list of the rikishi who had the most wins in each year?

I haven't figured out how to do a query that makes a list like that but you can modify the year for the query I have there and see a particular year.

[Bumpkin]

18 hours ago, K. Sear said:

The 2-2-11 has a lot to do with that.  Make that an "average ozeki" basho and he is right up there with the other top performers.  He's not being shown any doors.

The best record Kakuryu has this year is 11-4.  That is OK for an Ozeki but not for a Yokozuna. 11-4 is actually a very good record for an Ozeki.

Edited September 24, 2016 by Bumpkin

[Akinomaki]

11 hours ago, Rocks said:

It's funny they don't do some calendar year awards like most wins, greatest number of kimarite used or something.

There is a load of awards each year, last year with several new odd ones

Of course most wins of the year and best rikishi of the year (2 awards for basically the same) have some lists, maybe also in English. Most went to Hahuho anyway.

2014 awards thread

2013 awards thread

 

[Rocks]

14 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

Is there a list of the rikishi who had the most wins in each year?

Okay, the closest I have come to such a list is this:

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=1&n_basho=1&sum_wins=60&sum_range=6&show_sum=on&form1_year=>1957&form1_month=1&form1_m=on

 

It shows all the rikishi that have attained at least 60 wins in a calendar year since going to the 6 basho system in 1958. That is an average of 10 wins per basho for the calendar year and it's only been done 158 times since 1958. It is virtually certain it will be done 3 more times this year.

60 wins is the least to ever lead for a calendar year and it was done in 1992 by Takanohana. I'm still checking but that seems to be the only time a rikishi has had the most wins in a calendar year AND not attain, or already have, the rank of at least ozeki  by the end of the year. Okay, Taiho also did it in 1960 with 66 wins, that's an average of 11 wins, but he was named Ozeki after the November basho. Takanohana did not become Ozeki until Match 1993.

One note: 2011 is off due to only 5 basho but Hakuho lead for the year with 66 wins. The winning total for 1957, also 5 basho, was 59.

Edited September 24, 2016 by Rocks

[Rocks]

Here is another list showing the rikishi who have averaged 10 wins per basho for a calendar year and how many times they did it:

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=1&n_basho=1&sum_wins=60&sum_range=6&show_sum=on&group_by=rikishi&showhighest=on&having=1&form1_year=>1957&form1_month=1&form1_m=on

There are only 54 who have done it. Compare that to the 62 rikishi who have won a yusho over the same time period.

Not surprisingly Hakuho leads this list with, barring a kyujo in November, 11. No one who is on this list has failed to reach at least the rank of ozeki for their career.

Kisenosato, barring a kyujo in November, will join the top ten with having done this 5 times. He is the only one in the top ten not to have reached Yokozuna .

[Rocks]

You know there is a lot of kvetching over the standard needed to be named yokozuna which has been 2 consecutive yusho or the "equivalent".  But that can produce so called unworthy Yokozuna who were otherwise quite average but got hot for a couple of bashos in their career.  It can also be quite tough to achieve if your career happens to run concurrent to a dai-yokozuna. 

Perhaps a better standard for being named Yokozuna is a Yusho, I can't see how you can be Yokozuna and never win a Yusho, AND average at least 10 wins a basho for at least 2 calendar years during your career. This makes sense as they often push Yokozuna to retire if they do not achieve 10 wins in a basho on a frequent enough basis. It would seem that requirement is more important in determining the end of a Yokozuna's career. Why shouldn't it be important in determining they become a yokozuna?

[K. Sear]

13 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

The best record Kakuryu has this year is 11-4.  That is OK for an Ozeki but not for a Yokozuna.

And?  Maybe he isn't tearing it up, but he certainly isn't crapping the bed either.  He isn't being retired when his performances rank him solidly in the top five when healthy.  Kakuryu absorbs so much flak for no reason.  Harumafuji had a rather "weak" 2014-2015 campaign if 11 wins isn't good enough for a yokozuna but no one thinks he should have been shown the door.  When records start to look like those of Onokuni, Takanohana II, Wakanohana III, or Musashimaru near the ends of their careers it is fair to talk about forced retirement but not when they are still consistently turning in double digit wins.

[Bumpkin]

2 hours ago, K. Sear said:

And?  Maybe he isn't tearing it up, but he certainly isn't crapping the bed either.  He isn't being retired when his performances rank him solidly in the top five when healthy.  Kakuryu absorbs so much flak for no reason.  Harumafuji had a rather "weak" 2014-2015 campaign if 11 wins isn't good enough for a yokozuna but no one thinks he should have been shown the door.  When records start to look like those of Onokuni, Takanohana II, Wakanohana III, or Musashimaru near the ends of their careers it is fair to talk about forced retirement but not when they are still consistently turning in double digit wins.

I am not saying Kakuryu should be forced to retire.  Far from it.  He showed great heart coming back from an 0-2 start to finish with 10 or 11 wins.   The problem with Kakuryu is not that he gets 10 or 11 wins occasionally but that he gets them consistently.  If he were a Sekiwake, that would be perfect for promotion to Ozeki.  If he were an Ozeki, no one would argue, with that record, he should be promoted to Yokozuna.  Kakuryu, as you stated, is in the top five, but their are only three Yokozuna.  He should be in the top three.  BTW,  11 wins is very good for an Ozeki but not for a Yokozuna

Edited September 24, 2016 by Bumpkin

[dingo]

14 hours ago, Bumpkin said:

I am not saying Kakuryu should be forced to retire.  Far from it.  He showed great heart coming back from an 0-2 start to finish with 10 or 11 wins.   The problem with Kakuryu is not that he gets 10 or 11 wins occasionally but that he gets them consistently.  If he were a Sekiwake, that would be perfect for promotion to Ozeki.  If he were an Ozeki, no one would argue, with that record, he should be promoted to Yokozuna.  Kakuryu, as you stated, is in the top five, but their are only three Yokozuna.  He should be in the top three.  BTW,  11 wins is very good for an Ozeki but not for a Yokozuna

Yup, this plain and simple. He's not performing at Yokozuna level. 

[Dapeng]

On 9/25/2016 at 08:14, dingo said:

Yup, this plain and simple. He's not performing at Yokozuna level. 

Well, if he also performed at "yokozuna level" i.e. 12 or more wins every basho, Geeku and Goeindo would not have been able to yusho.