Basho Talk - Aki Basho 2016 +++ Spoiler Alert! +++

[MrGrumpyGills]

Just now, Akinomaki said:

trying to lose painlessly

XD
Maybe, just maybe sumo isn't the right sport for him?

[Rocks]

4 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

it's fright of the opponents, not the stage

I don't know. It would be much simpler to just let yourself be pushed out. Totally painless and the judges wouldn't be calling for do overs.. Nobody is going to push him very hard once they feel him give right away. He's literally diving to the floor to make his time on the dohyo end as soon as possible.

[Akinomaki]

2 minutes ago, Rocks said:

I don't know. It would be much simpler to just let yourself be pushed out. Totally painless and the judges wouldn't be calling for do overs.. Nobody is going to push him very hard once they feel him give right away. He's literally diving to the floor to make his time on the dohyo end as soon as possible.

Kinjo is twice as heavy with MMA fighter spirit: Hattori saw himself getting blown way into the seat rows - already with a painful neck

[Rocks]

14 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Kinjo is twice as heavy with MMA fighter spirit: Hattori saw himself getting blown way into the seat rows - already with a painful neck

Yes, and his only win out of 3 matches in Jonokuchi is Hattori's dive to the floor. The only thing this kid is blowing into the seat rows any time soon is gas.

[Akinomaki]

31 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Yes, and his only win out of 3 matches in Jonokuchi is Hattori's dive to the floor. The only thing this kid is blowing into the seat rows any time soon is gas.

Kinjo has no sumo abilities yet, but his maezumo bouts were quite vicious.

Edited September 17, 2016 by Akinomaki

[Kintamayama]

9 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Kinjo has no sumo abilities yet, but his maezumo bouts were quite vicious.

King George is one of the guys I gave three months, Two guys already out, in case anyone was not wondering.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Kintamayama

[Asojima]

2 hours ago, Rocks said:

I don't know. It would be much simpler to just let yourself be pushed out. Totally painless and the judges wouldn't be calling for do overs.. Nobody is going to push him very hard once they feel him give right away. He's literally diving to the floor to make his time on the dohyo end as soon as possible.

There was a similar Jk a year or two ago whose tachiai tactic was to turn right and run out of the ring chased by his opponent.  I do not recall his name. I assumed he was a sensitive person who did not want to risk injuring his opponent. 

[Harry]

Going kyujo? Looks like he should go intai... Feel bad for the guy but diving or falling on your butt... it is comical but also very sad. Why did he join?

[WAKATAKE]

That was embarrassing to watch.

[robnplunder]

16 hours ago, Jyuunomori said:

Goeido will win the Yusho it seems. Both men are unbelievable.

I am not so sure about it.  Unlike Okinoumi, Goeido still need to face all the top rikishi.   He can easily lose 3 - 5 of those.   I think Harumafusi has the best chance for Yusho.  

[robnplunder]

7 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

In jonokuchi an intolerable action happened on day 3: Shikide's eternal loser Hattorizakura (180cm, 64.4kg), who managed to get his first and only win so far in one year of sumo at the Natsu basho, against Kokonoe's arm-wrestler Kinjo. Hattorizakura, who was afraid of his opponent, 3 times tried to lose on purpose, but each time was made to redo the bout. Shikihide: "After 1 year his neck hurts. He crumbled before his opponent."  The oyakata was cautioned and told to properly guide his pupil. "We'll look at it and may think about kyujo - if he's not fit, it's an insult to the opponent." http://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2016/09/16/kiji/K20160916013362390.html

 

Hattorizakura did something similar before.   He has to be banned IMO.   He is making the mockery of his heya, sumo, and the fans.   He is also likely to get hurt seriously.   He won once and lost close to 30 matches and really needs to pick up another sport.   Pro sumo isn't "it" for him.   Shame.

[rhyen]

Someone should try and get ahold of the sandanme match between Chiyoarashi & Shohoryu.

 

[robnplunder]

8 minutes ago, rhyen said:

Someone should try and get ahold of the sandanme match between Chiyoarashi & Shohoryu.

 

Was it good?  Something unique happened?

[Rocks]

25 minutes ago, rhyen said:

Someone should try and get ahold of the sandanme match between Chiyoarashi & Shohoryu.

 

Their match is today.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Rocks

[sekitori]

On September 15, 2016 at 09:36, robnplunder said:

Amishiki looks definitely like he's not 100% healthy.   He may be in this basho to keep his ranking from slipping further down.

Consider these facts:

1. He tore his achilles tendon four months ago,

2. It usually takes at least six months, probably even longer, for an achilles tendon injury to heal well enough for a rikishi to take part in a basho.

3. He's now 4-3 and needs only two, possibly three wins in his remaining bouts to stay in juryo,

Considering that he's far from 100%, that's absolutely amazing. And even if he doesn't win another match, goes 4-11, and drops to makushita, considering that anyone else would be kyujo, that still amazes me. It's an extremely impressive performance.  But Aminishiki has always impressed me and nothing he does will shock me any longer. If there ever was fighting spirit award given for a rikshi doing something close to impossible, Aminishiki would be a good candidate to receive it. I don't like henkas but if he has to resort to using one or two more to remain in juryo, I won't complain. 

Edited September 18, 2016 by sekitori

[robnplunder]

9 minutes ago, sekitori said:

Consider these facts:

1. He tore his achilles tendon four months ago,

2. It usually takes at least six months, possibly longer, for an achilles tendon injury to heal well enough for a rikishi to take part in a basho.  

3. He's now 4-3 and needs only two, possibly three wins in his remaining bouts to stay in juryo,

Considering that he's far from 100%, that's absolutely amazing. And even if he doesn't win another match, goes 4-11, and drops to makushita, considering that anyone else probably would be kyujo, that's still amazes me. It's an extremely impressive performance.  But Aminishiki has always impressed me and nothing he does will shock me any longer. If there ever was fighting spirit award given for a rikshi doing something close to impossible, Aminishiki would be a good candidate to receive it. I don't like henkas but if he has to resort to using one or two more to remain in juryo, I won't complain. 

Yeah, I knew the injury should have taken weeks to heal for.  He took risk in coming back.   I think he's doing it on experience alone, without being in shape.  It's good that the risk is paying off.   

[Kintamayama]

8 hours ago, Harry said:

 Why did he join?

Free chanko.

[robnplunder]

10 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Free chanko.

   I doubt it.  He's so freaking skinny.

[Asashosakari]

Maybe he's just a huge fan of the guy in my avatar.

[taresu]

Watching Hattori bout in the video reminded me of Kyokutaisei and how his father forced him to quit Judo to do sumo. Looking Hattori for a while and seemed to me he just not want to be there at all, with neck injuries or not, he just don't have the spirit to fight up there. Kyokutaisei turned around and kept going on sumo, doing fine so far. Hope time put sense in Hattori's mind or he just quit for something he really enjoys. It would be really sad to know that he actually loves the sport and wants to be there but just is so afraid to do something. 

[robnplunder]

It was painful to watch Osunarashi.   I think he should go back to kuyjo rather than risking bigger injury.   He's not likely to win any more matches given his injury.

[Rocks]

Amimishiki now 5-3 after a win over the juryo leader who was 7-0. Incredible.

Sato got a win and is starting to look good again. Ura also won in what can only be called an embarrassment of a sumo match, especially for Asasekiryu.

[Jyuunomori]

Aminishiki is such a boss, I honestly hope he can make one final hurrah in Makuuchi. I don't want to see the ''Wily One'' go.

Chiyoshoma keeps on winning, should we be surprised since he is a mongolian?

[Rocks]

I think we should be surprised considering it took him 6 years to make Maegashira 

[Asashosakari]

Tamawashi wins by shoulder tackle.