Aminishiki recovery

[Akinomaki]

We have a Toyonoshima injury thread, but Aminishiki's is from last year, and I don't start the Rikishi status thread.

Aminishiki can walk, but he can't yet completely stretch the injured part with the snapped Achilles tendon. He will wait and see how it develops and then decide if he enters the basho http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2016082900300&g=spo

Would he continue if not ? He'd drop so low that he likely would need a zensho makushita yusho to get back to the paid ranks - he's a former sekiwake and owns the Ajigawa kabu, that at present the newly wed Gori-chan uses.

see him walk in already on the 16th:

On 17.8.2016 at 16:49, Akinomaki said:

 Aminishiki (Aomori)

 

 

Edited August 29, 2016 by Akinomaki

[Fukurou]

10 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Aminishiki can walk, but he can't yet completely stretch the injured part with the snapped Achilles tendon. He will wait and see how it develops and then decide if he enters the basho http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2016082900300&g=spo

Would he continue if not ? He'd drop so low that he likely would need a zensho makushita yusho to get back to the paid ranks - he's a former sekiwake and owns the Ajigawa kabu, that at present the newly wed Gori-chan uses.

see him walk in already on the 16th:

 

If someone is even seriously considering him entering this basho, someone is certifiably insane. ACL Torn Achilles is a 1-year injury.

Edit: because an ACL is not an Achilles Tendon

 

Edited August 30, 2016 by Fukurou

[Orion]

18 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

We have a Toyonoshima injury thread, but Aminishiki's is from last year, and I don't start the Rikishi status thread.

Aminishiki can walk, but he can't yet completely stretch the injured part with the snapped Achilles tendon. He will wait and see how it develops and then decide if he enters the basho http://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2016082900300&g=spo

Would he continue if not ? He'd drop so low that he likely would need a zensho makushita yusho to get back to the paid ranks - he's a former sekiwake and owns the Ajigawa kabu, that at present the newly wed Gori-chan uses.

see him walk in already on the 16th:

 

The Achilles tendon injury was the end of the career of my old friend Washuyama. (Wasn't this the one place the mother of the original Achilles had to hold him when she was dipping him into the water that would render him immortal? -- how long is it that I was a classical specialist??)

Orion

[Atenzan]

3 hours ago, Orion said:

The Achilles tendon injury was the end of the career of my old friend Washuyama. (Wasn't this the one place the mother of the original Achilles had to hold him when she was dipping him into the water that would render him immortal? -- how long is it that I was a classical specialist??)

Orion

I suppose so- I was taught the myth in Ancient Greek class in middle school and I remember it mentioning that his mother gripped him by the ankle to dip him in the river Styx to make his body indestructible. The baby was dipped fully, but the sacred waters never touched his covered ankle (and that's why Paris managed to kill him with a javelin shot to the heel in the Iliad and subsequent Brad Pitt film).  Seeing as the Achilles tendon is under the ankle, there is a definite connection to the myth. 

[Adil]

I used to enjoy watching him as much as the next person, but I just don't know what he'll bring to the dohyo at this stage of his career. Watching old timers soldier on and schooling the new kids is one of my favourite things. Except, Aminishiki was not exactly doing that in the last couple of bashos he competed in. It was like he was trying to set a new record of the most number of henkas in a basho.

Edited August 30, 2016 by Adil
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[Manekineko]

Achilles heel vs Achilles tendon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles_tendon

Origin of the term:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles_tendon#History

[Kintamayama]

Aminishiki has begun real training for the first time after his injury today at his heya. "I'm taking things slowly and not doing anything unnecessary. Just the sensation on my skin is enough," he said. He mostly trained outside of the ring with the lower rankers, putting the emphasis on his upper body and is still not fully stepping on his injured leg but was seen testing to see how far he can go. He was also seen bending the leg slowly-in short, very delicately exploring the situation. He has lost 5-6 kilos by his own words, which most certainly means his muscles are not what they were before the injury. "Just breathing the heated atmosphere of the keikoba will hopefully be a great plus for me.." he added. As for Aki? "I am doing my best towards entering. I am not  counting out the possibility of joining after a few days-it all depends on how it goes..he said. I'll have to listen to my body and not do anything unreasonable." Even in his darkest moments he did not break. "I was watching TV during the basho and thinking what I'll be telling Takarafuji .." he joked.

Harumafuji: "How come he gets to wear a black supporter and I don't??"

Edited September 4, 2016 by Kintamayama

[Akinomaki]

On 4.9.2016 at 09:19, Kintamayama said:

Aminishiki has begun real training for the first time after his injury today at his heya.

He mostly trained outside of the ring with the lower rankers, putting the emphasis on his upper body and is still not fully stepping on his injured leg but was seen testing to see how far he can go.

a pic of the training in the 4th - going slow

[rhyen]

Today, he was wearing knee braces on his right leg and heavily taped up the left one (with black pressure sock).

Mainly sparred with Ihara (in anticipation of facing Ishiura, Ura & Satoyama?), lost the first few matches with Ihara thrusting the veteran out. Aminishiki then came back with some yorikiri and hikiotoshi wins. Can't upload a video due to file size. 

[Kintamayama]

As stated above, Aminishiki is in. He had 16 bouts today against Jonidan rikishi. "I thought I could be able to do a bit of sumo, so I'm hanging on to that thought.  If I think I can win even one percent of my bouts, I am entering!" he declared. His ankle is still painful and stiff. "I will be doing sumo while being careful," he said. This will be his 100th consecutive basho as a sekitori.

 

[Ahogeyama]

Perhaps he's crazy, or perhaps he's just realizing that he'd rather dive headfirst into makushita swinging than sitting out the tournament. Either way, I don't see Ami getting more than a lucky henka before the inability to bear things overtakes him.

[Asojima]

There is probably no active sekitori who is more aware of his body limitations and the techniques needed to compensate for his injuries. He does smart sumo.

[Naganoyama]

Given what a smart guy he is, you'd think he'd be able to calculate what 1% of 15 actually is and decide whether it was worth entering the basho for that. 

Or does he mean 1% of the training bouts (against jonidan rikishi)?

Either way, I don't think he's thinking straight.

[Atenzan]

40 minutes ago, Naganoyama said:

Given what a smart guy he is, you'd think he'd be able to calculate what 1% of 15 actually is and decide whether it was worth entering the basho for that. 

Or does he mean 1% of the training bouts (against jonidan rikishi)?

Either way, I don't think he's thinking straight.

I think that Aminishiki has out-wilied you. He is saying that, at this point, he would enter even if his chances of winning a given bout were 1%. After doing the binomial distribution on the back of a napkin, Aminishiki calculated that he has a whopping 0.96% chance of getting 2 or more wins in the honbasho. He's in with a fighting chance!

[Naganoyama]

I just love the guy and want to see him come back from injury when he is ready, rather than rushing it and catapulting himself into intai. 

[WAKATAKE]

You can count me as one of those people who thought for sure he would sit out, take some more time to heal. I predict a 3-12 record for Aki.

[orandashoho]

I suppose he doesn't want to plummet down the banzuke and thinks that he can avoid further insult to his injuries.

[Ahogeyama]

54 minutes ago, orandashoho said:

I suppose he doesn't want to plummet down the banzuke and thinks that he can avoid further insult to his injuries.

If he can go down swinging with a 3-4-8 record instead of a 0-0-15 record, it would show he won't simply quit when the likelihood of surviving intai is slim. It feels more like an attempt to garner PR more than anything.

Wishing Ami the best, but he's played all his cards.

[Benihana]

Brace yourself, henka-fest is coming. Please be careful big guy.

[ryafuji]

At J10W wouldn't he need at least five or six wins to avoid demotion to makushita? That seems a very tall order. Perhaps he is thinking of mitigating how far down makushita he falls.

[Kintamayama]

14 minutes ago, ryafuji said:

At J10W wouldn't he need at least five or six wins to avoid demotion to makushita? That seems a very tall order. Perhaps he is thinking of mitigating how far down makushita he falls.

And thus risking further injury to an already battered body, perhaps the most battered body in sumo at present.

[Asashosakari]

7 hours ago, ryafuji said:

At J10W wouldn't he need at least five or six wins to avoid demotion to makushita? That seems a very tall order. Perhaps he is thinking of mitigating how far down makushita he falls.

6 to stay, probably 4 to end up high enough in makushita to have a chance of an immediate return in November.