Naganoyama Posted July 15, 2004 Posted July 15, 2004 Does anyone know the reason why Kitazakura and Toyozakura joined different heya? Other brothers I know of in sumo are in the same heya. Aminishiki/Asofuji, Tamanoshima/Tamanokuni and of course the Hanada brothers. It would seem unusual based on this (admittedly slight) evidence. Perhaps someone could enlighten me?
aderechelsea Posted July 15, 2004 Posted July 15, 2004 i have no clue on this but i could make a guess and say that they live in different places due to a family divorce ? (i know i sound stupid with posts like that but i HAD to make a guess ...) :-)
Jakusotsu Posted July 15, 2004 Posted July 15, 2004 Another guess would be capacity problems with their favoured heya at the time when they entered. But as I said, just a guess...
Kintamayama Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Does anyone know the reason why Kitazakura and Toyozakura joined different heya? Other brothers I know of in sumo are in the same heya. Aminishiki/Asofuji, Tamanoshima/Tamanokuni and of course the Hanada brothers. It would seem unusual based on this (admittedly slight) evidence. Perhaps someone could enlighten me? Interestingly, I just read an article in a Chinese paper that gave the reason. "They were living together in the same "heya" (room) at home for many years, so I decided that when they join Sumo, they will be in different "heyas", said their 58 year old father.
Azumashida Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Mongolian Fudoyama, who joined Ozumo 27 Basho ago - before the "one gaijin per heya" rule I suppose (?) - is not from the same heya as his brother - Tenho - either (Takashima beya instead of Oshima beya)...
Yubiquitoyama Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 Mongolian Fudoyama, who joined Ozumo 27 Basho ago - before the "one gaijin per heya" rule I suppose (?) - is not from the same heya as his brother - Tenho - either (Takashima beya instead of Oshima beya)... But he had no choice. There was a 2-foreigners-per-heya rule at the time and Oshima was overful (Tenho+Shuzan+Tenzan).
Azumashida Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 But he had no choice. There was a 2-foreigners-per-heya rule at the time and Oshima was overful (Tenho+Shuzan+Tenzan). Thanks for the info! Was there a 3-foreigners-per-heya rule before that? Or was there no formal rule at all when the Oshima beya recruited its three Mongolians?
Yubiquitoyama Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 But he had no choice. There was a 2-foreigners-per-heya rule at the time and Oshima was overful (Tenho+Shuzan+Tenzan). Thanks for the info! Was there a 3-foreigners-per-heya rule before that? Or was there no formal rule at all when the Oshima beya recruited its three Mongolians? There was no restriction at the time the three Mongolians entered sumo. Then (1994 or so) the 2-foreigners-per-heya and a maximum total were introduced. Recently the maximum total was removed and the one-foreginer-per-heya instead came about (which all in all allowed for more foreigners than the earlier maxtotal). All rule changes allowed to keep existing foreigners exceeding the limits which is why there can be three mongolians in Oshima-beya. :-P
Naganoyama Posted July 20, 2004 Author Posted July 20, 2004 Does anyone know the reason why Kitazakura and Toyozakura joined different heya? Other brothers I know of in sumo are in the same heya. Aminishiki/Asofuji, Tamanoshima/Tamanokuni and of course the Hanada brothers. It would seem unusual based on this (admittedly slight) evidence. Perhaps someone could enlighten me? Interestingly, I just read an article in a Chinese paper that gave the reason. "They were living together in the same "heya" (room) at home for many years, so I decided that when they join Sumo, they will be in different "heyas", said their 58 year old father. Thanks for this. Of all the possible reasons I could have come up with, "Daddy said so". would not have been one.
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