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Fukurou Yokozuna

Fukurou

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Any comments in the press or from the man (or oyakata) about Hakuho's loss on day 1? I thought he was doing ok right until he was escorted out of the ring.

CT3* Maegashira

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Good first day! Hakuho looked annoyed at the matta and then perhaps lost his focus. Good start for Okinoumi.

Shikona Juryo

Shikona

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Okinoumi did a great Hakuho impression--a good grip, patience, and then when the opponent tries to improve his hold, take advantage and drive him out. Meanwhile, Hakuho, with the early pull attempt and arm around the neck, was channeling Goeido on a bad day.

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Kishinoyama Ozeki

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Not only that but a big payday for Okinoumi in the form of 50 kensho. More than makes up for it not being a kinboshi.

I think Okinoumi would rather have a kinboshi because it would be a whole lot more yen in the long run. :-)

ScottyJoyJrBebe Juryo

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Congrats to Okinoumi for a STUNNING and CONVINCING victory today!!!

Nice to see Ichinojo is awake this time (So far) Lets go for 10 wins!! GO ICHINOJO!!!

Tochiozan, lets go for 11 wins for a continued run for Ozeki.

I have a feeling Osunaarashi is gonna bottom-out this tournament. 4-11 :(

My prediction for Aki: Terunofuji 13-2-P Y Hakuho 13-2-P D Tochiozan 12-3 J Okinoumi 10-5 S Ichinojo 10-5 K

(Yes, I realize this is VERY WISHFUL thinking)

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Seijakuzan Sandanme

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Congrats to Okinoumi for a STUNNING and CONVINCING victory today!!!

Nice to see Ichinojo is awake this time (So far) Lets go for 10 wins!! GO ICHINOJO!!!

Tochiozan, lets go for 11 wins for a continued run for Ozeki.

I have a feeling Osunaarashi is gonna bottom-out this tournament. 4-11 :(

My prediction for Aki: Terunofuji 13-2-P Y Hakuho 13-2-P D Tochiozan 12-3 J Okinoumi 10-5 S Ichinojo 10-5 K

(Yes, I realize this is VERY WISHFUL thinking)

Your top 2 are probably fine, especially if this turns out to be a fluke for Hakuho, but 12-3 and two 10-5s from continuous underachievers is indeed very wishful thinking. I don't think that can mathematically happen unless Kakuryu, Kisenosato, Giku, and Goeido average 10-5 or 9-6 or something like that.

ScottyJoyJrBebe Juryo

ScottyJoyJrBebe

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Congrats to Okinoumi for a STUNNING and CONVINCING victory today!!!

Nice to see Ichinojo is awake this time (So far) Lets go for 10 wins!! GO ICHINOJO!!!

Tochiozan, lets go for 11 wins for a continued run for Ozeki.

I have a feeling Osunaarashi is gonna bottom-out this tournament. 4-11 :(

My prediction for Aki: Terunofuji 13-2-P Y Hakuho 13-2-P D Tochiozan 12-3 J Okinoumi 10-5 S Ichinojo 10-5 K

(Yes, I realize this is VERY WISHFUL thinking)

Your top 2 are probably fine, especially if this turns out to be a fluke for Hakuho, but 12-3 and two 10-5s from continuous underachievers is indeed very wishful thinking. I don't think that can mathematically happen unless Kakuryu, Kisenosato, Giku, and Goeido average 10-5 or 9-6 or something like that.

I will recant the 12-3 and the first 10-5, but I do believe that Ichinojo at M4e can pull off that 10-5 with <maybe> a fighting spirit award. I'm at least happy that it appears he has not put on any additional weight.

Edit: YES, I do believe Terunofuji will get this one, even with the play-off I predict.

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Kasutera Juryo

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What is more impressive about Okinoumi's win is that it's not a slip or last-minute throw that was catching Hak in a bad position on accident, Okinoumi had to fight and win to push him out. I hope Okinoumi benefits from the ego boost of a well-fought win against the Yokozuna,

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ScottyJoyJrBebe Juryo

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What is more impressive about Okinoumi's win is that it's not a slip or last-minute throw that was catching Hak in a bad position on accident, Okinoumi had to fight and win to push him out. I hope Okinoumi benefits from the ego boost of a well-fought win against the Yokozuna,

Me too. :-D

I know I recanted my 10-5, but wishful thinking can work, especially because he could still loose to all 4 ozeki and kakuryu, and STILL get that 10-5 :)

Perhaps I need to RETCON my recant into just Tochiozan's 12-3.

Unfortunately, I still believe Osunaarashi will bottom out with 4-11 :( no recant there.

Andonishiki Ozeki

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the last time Hakuho lost the first two bouts was in Nov 2005 !!!

He was a Komusubi, but still managed to finish 9-6.

also stunning, that he NEVER lost to either Oki or Yoshi before - now 12-1 and 9-1.

tomorrow the torikumi has Aoiyama (also 0-2) with a previous record of 12-0 for Hakuho.

the unthinkable has just happened

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gijo Sandanme

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Nice basho this one as well!!

Hakuho: it seems to be a "fighting spirit" problem, I do not see any evidence of injury at the moment.

Ichinojo: still very heavy and lack of fighting strategy, no ideas as the last tournaments. I hope he will get better.

Teru: calm, effective, a real yokozuna...

Aminiski: he deserve a special price just to be there and keep winning.

The yusho race, this time, will be open for Kise, if he can manage to keep his mind up till the end. I hope he will get what he deserve.

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orandashoho Ozeki

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Too early to tell if Hakuho can't pull this one. Maybe he likes the challenge of winning his way back up.

Terunofuji is looking good and seems poised to make Hakuho regret his early losses.

Aminishiki may get that special prize if he keeps this up. Never say "impossible"... look at Tenho's Yusho in 2012.

This basho is promising to be very exciting.

Jakusotsu Dai-yokozuna

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The yusho race, this time, will be open for Kise, if he can manage to keep his mind up till the end. I hope he will get what he deserve.

Perhaps we should install a boilerplate for that.
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monjos1280 Mae-zumo

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All my faves - Endo, Okinoumi and Goeido - lost today :'-(​ keeping my fingers crossed tho ^^

I yelled at the PC screen when I saw Hakuho's second loss .. I thought what happened yesterday was only a temporary glitch in a system - looks like we are going to have to wait and see

!!! Ichinojo - the giant sleepy teddy bear is back - as it was in Nagoya, he seems as if his body was there but his mind was somewhere else, again ... bless him.

Terunofuji - cool as cucumber - his inner poise is scary!

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Akinomaki Dai-yokozuna

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Kyujo from day 3 on is definite, according to the papers. The hospital found the left knee injured (in keiko before the basho) - he'll have an MRI in the morning.

Miyagino-oyakata: "80% likely. I don't want him to unreasonably go on." "It seems he has pain just by bending the knee. That much pain mentioned by a man who never ever spoke of pain."

The final decision is on the man himself.
http://www.sankei.com/sports/news/150914/spo1509140036-n1.html
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/sports/sumo/20150914-OYT1T50080.html

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ALAKTORN Komusubi

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Kyujo from day 3 on is definite, according to the papers. The hospital found the left knee injured (in keiko before the basho) - he'll have an MRI in the morning.

Miyagino-oyakata: "80% likely. I don't want him to unreasonably go on." "It seems he has pain just by bending the knee. That much pain mentioned by a man who never ever spoke of pain."

Oh no… Have injuries finally gotten to Hakuhō as well…? If it’s serious the Hakuhō era has just come to an end…

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