Trivia bits

[Wakawakawaka]

The commentator on NHK World mentioned that the Hidenoumi - Sadanoumi bout was the first time they met in Makuuchi in almost 9 years. Not sure if that's a record or something easily queryable, but I found it rather interesting nonetheless.

[ryafuji]

11 hours ago, Wakawakawaka said:

The commentator on NHK World mentioned that the Hidenoumi - Sadanoumi bout was the first time they met in Makuuchi in almost 9 years. Not sure if that's a record or something easily queryable, but I found it rather interesting nonetheless.

They have met a few times in juryo in between though. The one I always remember is the nearly 8 year gap between Wakanoyama and Wakanohana  from May 1992 to March 2000, which were their only meetings.

Edited July 27 by ryafuji

[Gurowake]

On 26/05/2025 at 22:35, Gurowake said:

From as best as I can tell doing research starting from the Wikipedia list of Makuuchi speedruns from Maezumo, the previous record for rise to san'yaku from Maezumo was 14 basho, held by Kotooshu, Konishiki, and Asashoryu.  Aonishiki is (presumably) going to get there in 11.

Unless they make an even more radical decision than keeping a 6-9 K1e as Komusubi, which would mean either demoting Daieisho or Oshoma to only K1w or promoting Kotoshoho, and make that decision at the same time they decide to not promote a KK M1e when they have previously gone out of the way to promote an 8-7 M1e instead of a better candidate, all of which seem absolutely ludicrous, Aonishiki will make sanyaku in 12 basho from Maezumo, still beating the record by 2.

Edited July 27 by Gurowake

[Reonito]

Five jun-yusho is the most since 1972 and only the 4th time ever there have been that many.

[Reonito]

This is the 5th basho ever with 5 or more rikishi getting special prizes. The record is 7, set exactly two years ago, but in that case, everyone got exactly one, so if my manual look was correct, 7 total prizes in this basho ties that record. Hakuoho got 2, while the other 6 got one apiece, for a total of 8 prizes, just ahead of this basho's 7.

Edited July 28 by Reonito

[Faustonowaka]

5 hours ago, Reonito said:

This is the 5th basho ever with 5 or more rikishi getting special prizes. The record is 7, set exactly two years ago, but in that case, everyone got exactly one, so if my manual look was correct, 7 total prizes in this basho ties that record.

It’s also just the second time ever (Hatsu 1992) that every special prize has been awarded at least twice.

[Faustonowaka]

5 hours ago, Reonito said:

This is the 5th basho ever with 5 or more rikishi getting special prizes. The record is 7, set exactly two years ago, but in that case, everyone got exactly one, so if my manual look was correct, 7 total prizes in this basho ties that record.

The record seems to be 8 total prizes (Nagoya 2023).

Edited July 28 by Faustonowaka

[Reonito]

9 minutes ago, Faustonowaka said:

The record seems to be 8 total prizes (Nagoya 2023).

You're right, I overlooked that Hakuoho got two.

[hypnoowl]

I don't know if this one has come up before, but taking a look at 8-bout records yielded an interesting result. In 1972 in 2 consecutive basho Aobayama while ranked Ms1w was first passed over for a juryo promotion with a 4-3 record by a 4-4 Ms1e, and then while ranked Ms1e was again passed over for juryo promotion with 4-4 record by a 4-3 Ms2e.

[VictorDiVarca]

1 hour ago, hypnoowl said:

I don't know if this one has come up before, but taking a look at 8-bout records yielded an interesting result. In 1972 in 2 consecutive basho Aobayama while ranked Ms1w was first passed over for a juryo promotion with a 4-3 record by a 4-4 Ms1e, and then while ranked Ms1e was again passed over for juryo promotion with 4-4 record by a 4-3 Ms2e.

There are 2 differences. According to partial records he get to 4-4 coming from 3-4 while other guy coming from 4-3. 

So there was no "penalty" for losing 8th bout, while winning 8th bout was not elevating above those with real KK (M2e and! M3e), but helped with retaining M1e spot instead of demotion.

[Hakumadashi]

With Kotoshoho winning the Yusho, a surprisingly steady stat in modern Sumo history has been thrashed very early. Unique Makuuchi Yusho winners per decade. 
1950s: 14
1960s: 15
1970s: 16
1980s: 16
1990s: 15
2000s: 13
2010s: 14
2020s so far: 17

[Reonito]

Kusano's 38 wins in his first three basho as sekitori set the all-time record, beating Ichinojo by one and 3 better than Hakuoho and Onosato.

[Faustonowaka]

Futagoyama-beya had a rikishi at every possible rank (yokozuna, ozeki, sekiwake, komusubi, maegashira, juryo, makushita, sandamne, jonidan, jonokuchi and even maezumo) on the Haru 1996 banzuke

[Faustonowaka]

With the ascension of Onosato to Yokozuna 1 East, this marks the first time since Hatsu 2019 that a Japanese rikishi finds himself at the top of the Banzuke. Fittingly the last Japanese before him was his shisho Kisenosato. Before Kisenosato (who also was Y1e in Natsu 2017) we have to go way back to Haru and Natsu 2001 to find another Japanese at the top with a certain Takanohana II. So in the last 25 years (150 basho), a Japanese rikishi only topped the Banzuke a mere 5 times.

Edited September 2 by Faustonowaka

[Reonito]

Hakuyozan is now 5th all-time for the number of basho ranked in juryo (34) without ever reaching makuuchi, and the top guy this century. Amusingly, just ahead of him is Hakuyuzan, who fought in the 1950s. Sadanoumi holds the all-time record for the number of basho ranked in makuuchi without ever reaching sanyaku with 59. These numbers are dwarfed by the 80+ basho several rikishi have spent in makushita without ever reaching juryo.

[Jakusotsu]

37 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Sadanoumi holds the all-time record for the number of basho ranked in makuuchi without ever reaching sanyaku with 59.

Wow. I'd never guessed...

[sahaven111]

Since if everything goes off without a hitch we're expected to get what is only our second bout between Yokozuna this entire decade, here's an admittedly rudimentary comparison between the same basho in the other decades of the six basho era. With the arbitrary cutoff point of the Nagoya basho of the sixth year in each decade.

1960s - 36 bouts

1970s - 37 bouts

1980s - 49 bouts

1990s - 19 bouts

2000s - 15 bouts

2010s - 25 bouts

2020s - 1 bout

[Gurowake]

Onosato is the first Yokozuna in the 6-basho era to be promoted with only 2 basho at maegashira.  The previous record of 3 was held by Asahoryu, Futahaguro (Kitao), Musashimaru, and Taiho.

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&amp;rowcount=3&amp;group_by=rikishi&amp;g_op=<=&amp;showcareerhigh=on&amp;having=3&amp;form1_rank=m&amp;form1_year=>1956&amp;gsort_by=careerhigh

Aonishiki would have been capable of tying this record if he hadn't been screwed over for Nagoya 2025.

[Reonito]

In case Asahakuryu takes the yusho tomorrow (he's guaranteed at least a playoff spot): only 11 rikishi   followed up a makushita yusho with a juryo yusho  , and only four of them did so in their juryo debut, most recently Miyabiyama in 1998. I'd post the query but I'm getting hit with the dreaded blacklisting error.

[Fashiritētā]

Rikishi	1			2    >
	Date	Rank	Record	Date	Rank	Record
Haguroyama	1936.05	Ms12w	10-1 Y	1937.01	J8e	9-2 Y
Kotokaze	1979.09	Ms8w	7-0 Y	1979.11	J11w	14-1 Y
Wakasegawa	1982.05	Ms1w	6-1 Y	1982.07	J7e	11-4 Y
Daishoyama	1990.03	Ms4e	7-0 Y	1990.05	J11w	12-3 Y
Daikiko	1990.09	Ms4w	7-0 Y	1990.11	J9w	11-4 Y
Wakanoyama	1995.09	Ms1e	7-0 Y	1995.11	J9w	11-4 Y
Miyabiyama	1998.09	Ms6w	7-0 Y	1998.11	J11w	12-3 Y
Baruto	2006.01	Ms3w	6-1 Y	2006.03	J11e	15-0 Y
Tochinoshin	2014.05	Ms6w	7-0 Y	2014.07	J12e	13-2 Y
Terunofuji	2019.11	Ms10w	7-0 Y	2020.01	J13w	13-2 Y
Chiyonokuni	2020.07	Ms12w	7-0 Y	2020.09	J11w	14-1 Y

just a copy and paste, and it worked.

Edited September 28 by Fashiritētā

[Reonito]

Thanks, seems like it's the http vs. https thing.

[Tsubame]

I have no idea how to start searching but was todays Takayasu-Kirishima bout the latest matchup for two ex-ozekis in a tournament possible? 

[Akinomaki]

30 minutes ago, Tsubame said:

I have no idea how to start searching but was todays Takayasu-Kirishima bout the latest matchup for two ex-ozekis in a tournament possible? 

With one as top sekiwake and all Y/O kyujo, also the last bout is possible

Edited September 28 by Akinomaki

[Reonito]

This basho, 10 Makuuchi rikishi finished 7-8, a total seen only six times in the six-basho era and exceeded only once (exactly 20 years ago).

[Octofuji]

Thanks, I noticed there seemed to be a lot when looking at the bottom of the banzuke (eight of them are in the bottom half).