Trivia bits

[Gurowake]

If Goeido is promoted to Yokozuna after Kyushu 2016, he will set a new record for most basho as Sekiwake by a future Yokozuna (15).  The current record is 12 by Mienoumi.  He would also be one of the few Yokozuna to have more Sekiwake basho than Ozeki basho (this is his 14th basho as Ozeki).  The only other such modern Yokozuna were Asashoryu (4 and 3) and Hokutoumi (9 and 5).  Wajima also had 4 each.

[Akinomaki]

23 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

On 15.11.2016 at 21:40, Asashosakari said:

On 15.11.2016 at 20:33, Kintamayama said:

between two rikishi with one letter in their shikona- Ikioi vs. Kagayaki

Sekitori ranks anyway. It's not that uncommon in makushita and below.

In makuuchi after 183 years again.

Since the start of the present yusho system in May 1909, only 9 1kanji sekitori existed: the other 7 are yokozuna 鳳Ootori and for 3 basho together in makuuchi lower ranked 明Akiraka , who had no torikumi against each other - Nikkan says they were only 1 basho together, Natsu 1918 -  隼Hayabusa, 轟Todoroki, and in our time 曙Akebono, 嵐Arashi and still active 魁Sakigake.

The 2 that met Fuyu 1833 were 璞Aratama and 錦Nishiki

http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/column/sumo/news/1738819.html

 

Edited November 17, 2016 by Akinomaki

[Asashosakari]

(Listed shikona are as used during the respective streak.)

Most consecutive tournaments ranked as maegashira:

1. 58 Kyokushuzan (199705-200611)
2. 53 Higonoumi (199303-200111)
3. 45 Takamisakari (200401-201107)
4. 43 Ozutsu (198501-199201)
5. 42 Minatofuji (199405-200103)
6. 41 Kitakachidoki (199109-199805)
6. 41 Tokitsuumi (199809-200505)
8. 40 Daiyu (196511-197205)
8. 40 Kotonowaka (199905-200511)
8. 40 Yoshikaze (200707-201403)
11. 39 Hamanoshima (199411-200103)
11. 39 Kakizoe (200405-201009)
13. 38 Narutoumi (194910-195901)
13. 38 Kaizan (195403-196107)
13. 38 Mitoizumi (199301-199903)
16. 37 Itai (198303-198903)
16. 37 Takekaze (200805-201407)
18. 36 Wakabayama (195201-195911)
19. 35 Kaiki (198103-198611)
19. 35 Terao (199409-200005)
19. 35 Kyokutenho (200909-201507)

Honourable mention to Ohikari who had separate streaks of 31 and 30 basho between 1950 and 1963. The longest active streak comprises only 16 basho, held by Sadanoumi.

Most consecutive tournaments ranked in juryo:

1. 39 Sawakaze (196003-196607)
2. 37 Hakuyuzan (195109-195911)
3. 34 Tomonohana (199603-200109)
4. 31 Sagahikari (195601-196107)
5. 30 Kochi (195811-196309)
5. 30 Tochiisami (197501-197911)
5. 30 Hakuryu (197905-198403)
5. 30 Toyonoumi (199405-199903)
9. 29 Azumanishiki (196211-196707)
10. 28 Ijuin (195503-196007)
11. 27 Nachinoyama (195105-195801)
11. 27 Sakunobori (195709-196201)
13. 26 Dairyu (195401-195905)
13. 26 Miyabashira (195703-196107)
13. 26 Daigo (197709-198111)
16. 25 Orochigawa (196303-196703)
16. 25 Masudayama (198507-198907)

Unsurprisingly a lot of these streaks date from back when the juryo division had 18 or more ranks between the early 1950s and late 1960s. Chiyoo and Asahisho have active streaks of 20 and 19 basho going right now.

Most consecutive tournaments ranked in makushita:

1. 78 Aranonami (198903-200201)
2. 72 Fukuzono (199507-200705)
3. 70 Ukunoshima (196201-197307)
4. 59 Wakakuma (195803-196711)
5. 58 Mizuhikari (196805-197711)
5. 58 Dairaido (200609-201605)
7. 57 Musashiumi (200703-201609)
8. 55 Shishuyama (197909-198809)
9. 53 Aiuchi (196407-197303)
9. 53 Shosei (200801-ongoing)
11. 52 Azumayama (195709-196603)
11. 52 Yutaka (197101-197907)
11. 52 Tamaonami (197111-198005)
14. 51 Konryu (196405-197209)
14. 51 Wakakaze (199109-200001)
14. 51 Yoshiazuma (199905-200709)
17. 50 Terukami (196209-197011)

Barring intai Shosei's probably a good bet to work his way up to 4th place eventually. Aging prospect Kairyu has the next-longest active streak at 36 basho, Aozora and Irodori follow with 35. (Incidentally, the end of Musashiumi's streak after Aki was the motivation for compiling all these useless lists.)

Most consecutive tournaments ranked in sandanme:

1. 56 Akishima (196611-197601)
2. 52 Iwanoumi (197711-198605)
3. 49 Kisomitsuru (200101-200901)
3. 49 Shunba (200809-ongoing)
5. 47 Hokkairyu (200309-201107)
6. 45 Azumayama (199403-200107)
6. 45 Tamanotaka (200107-200811)
6. 45 Daishoki (200203-200907)
6. 45 Daishowaka (200901-201607)
10. 44 Haruzakura (200603-201307)
11. 43 Kazunobori (198209-198909)
12. 42 Futamusashi (200203-200901)
12. 42 Isoazuma (200401-201011)
14. 41 Murayoshi (200009-200705)
15. 40 Koshinoyama (199703-200309)
15. 40 Hokutosho (200003-200609)
15. 40 Minanosato (200701-201309)

Shunba just might become the all-time leader here. Lengthy ongoing streaks are also held by Minatosho (33) and Gorikiyama (30).

Most consecutive tournaments ranked in jonidan:

1. 76 Otsukuba (199505-200711)
2. 66 Hidemusashi (199005-200103)
2. 66 Katsutanishiki (199203-200301)
4. 64 Fujinawa (199403-200409)
5. 61 Tsurunohana (199103-200103)
6. 60 Akiasahi (198501-199411)
7. 58 Amanowaka (200309-201305)
8. 56 Echizenyama (200705-201609)
9. 55 Daitengu (196811-197711)
10. 54 Dewanoshin (199103-200001)
10. 54 Miyanoshima (199511-200409)
12. 53 Hayate (199107-200003)
13. 52 Daitenyu (200303-201111)
14. 51 Itakozakura (200803-201609)
15. 50 Kiyoshizuka (197905-198707)
15. 50 Wakanishiki (198501-199303)
15. 50 Fusanonami (199205-200007)

Lots of things were happening here in September, with Itakozakura ending his streak by dropping to jonokuchi, Echizenyama closing out his via intai, and fellow list member Daitenyu also retiring. The longest ongoing streak is now 36 basho by Kirimaru. Honourable mention here for Minezakura who had separate streaks of 41 and 42 basho between 1991 and 2005. In general this list is dominated by Heisei-era rikishi; prior to the last ~20 years jonidan-quality rikishi rarely stayed around long enough.

Most consecutive tournaments ranked in jonokuchi:

1. 23 Morikawa (1) (200307-200703)
2. 22 Fukukasuga (199903-200209)
3. 20 Shimenishiki (199307-199609)
4. 18 Daishiryu (200405-200703)
4. 18 Wakatoohashi (200705-201003)
4. 18 Takachihonomine (200805-201105)
7. 17 Sano (198405-198701)
7. 17 Jin (200005-200301)
9. 16 Sasaarashi (198205-198411)
9. 16 Tomita (199505-199711)
9. 16 Kohakuzan (200107-200401)
9. 16 Fukunokuni (200303-200509)
9. 16 Sakuma (200805-201011)
14. 15 Haga (199405-199609)
14. 15 Saikairyu (199405-199609)
14. 15 Iwanaga (200505-200709)
14. 15 Moriurara (2) (200707-200911)
14. 15 Okino (201107-201311)

Morikawa and Moriurara are of course the same guy, who fluked a makekoshi promotion to jonidan as part of his record-setting 38-MK streak, hence two separate, shorter Jk streaks, the latter ending after his good-luck shikona change. In any case, this list is even more inundated with recent rikishi than the one for jonidan. However, the most noteworthy one besides Moriurara might well be third-place Shimenishiki - unlike basically all others who have had their Jk streaks right from their banzuke debut, he managed to have his much later in his career, having debuted in 1980. (Prior to the 20-basho streak listed above he already had another one comprising 10 basho from 1989 to 1991 as well.) The only halfway comparable case is currently active Momochizakura who spent 13 consecutive basho in jonokuchi about ten years into his career.

Active persisters Asatatsuke and Hanai currently lead the way here with 10 basho each.

Edited November 17, 2016 by Asashosakari

[Bumpkin]

This is not useless, this is great.  What is the record for consecutive basho ranked under Juryo?

[Gurowake]

1 hour ago, Bumpkin said:

This is not useless, this is great.  What is the record for consecutive basho ranked under Juryo?

Hanakaze and Hokutoryu both have 184 basho and have highest rank in Sandanme.  They are the leaders in most non-sekitori bouts (at least, among those captured by the database, and guys stay around a lot longer now than they used to).  Third place is someone who spent one basho in Juryo.

[Akinomaki]

Day 5 was the first time for the new Kokonoe-beya that all 6 sekitori won. http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/1739629.html

Maybe that rather belongs to basho talk, but it was the most trivial trivia I remember that made it into its own article.

Edited November 18, 2016 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki]

Maybe the biggest weight gain ever overnight has happened with Ichinojo: yesterday he was about 80kg heavier than Ishiura (Asahi), today 98kg - Sponichi/Daily.

Edited November 18, 2016 by Akinomaki

[ryafuji]

Has anyone else fallen from sekiwake (or sanyaku, for that matter) to makushita as fast as Toyonoshima has?

Edited November 18, 2016 by ryafuji

[Asashosakari]

37 minutes ago, ryafuji said:

Has anyone else fallen from sekiwake (or sanyaku, for that matter) to makushita as fast as Toyonoshima has?

From sanyaku, yes.

[ryafuji]

6 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

From sanyaku, yes.

Had to be Kotokaze. Came back from that to make ozeki, then had to retire at 28 after losing his rank to another injury.  

[Gurowake]

Looking at his earliest few basho, it looks like in the 70s they were taking guys not done with middle school (like Kitanoumi and Kotokaze), but then it was decided (or decided for them) that the young recruits should finish middle school and as such they didn't take new ones that young and the ones they already had didn't travel to regional basho and only fought on Sunday in Tokyo basho.  Is this an accurate description of what happened?

Edited November 18, 2016 by Gurowake

[Dwale]

Did anyone ever come up with a solid answer on whether the topknot is cut if a rikishi dies before retiring? I need to know for a short story.

[Asashosakari]

1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

Looking at his earliest few basho, it looks like in the 70s they were taking guys not done with middle school (like Kitanoumi and Kotokaze), but then it was decided (or decided for them) that the young recruits should finish middle school and as such they didn't take new ones that young and the ones they already had didn't travel to regional basho and only fought on Sunday in Tokyo basho.  Is this an accurate description of what happened?

I've only read bits and pieces about that whole issue, but my understanding matches your conclusions.

[Jakusotsu]

This basho could become the first since Hatsu 2011 that...

No, I don't want to jinx them.

[Asashosakari]

14 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

This basho could become the first since Hatsu 2011 that...

...features two dozen rikishi who will be thrown out afterwards? Hopefully not. 

[Sumozumo]

Since the war, there have been 6 Basho with no kyuujyou in sekitori ranks. Haru 2006, Nagoya '93, Hatsu '90, Haru 1982, Kyushu 1979, and Haru 1967.

Let me know if I missed. Four more days to go.

Edited November 23, 2016 by Sumozumo

[Bumpkin]

According to Asashosakari, J3w Sato (9-3) is guaranteed promotion to Makuuchi.  Sato was born in August 1996.  Who was the last Sumotori under 21 when promoted?

[Asashosakari]

List of rikishi who have beaten yokozuna opponents on three consecutive days:

1938.05, Day 11-13, Y1e Futabayama
1949.05, Day 11-13, O1w Masuiyama
1951.09, Day 13-15, Y1e Azumafuji
1952.01, Day 13-15, Y2e Haguroyama
1957.09, Day 10-12, O1e Wakanohana
1980.05, Day 13-15, Y1e Kitanoumi
1990.01, Day 13-15, O1e Konishiki
1991.01, Day 13-15, O1e Kirishima
2016.01, Day 10-12, O2e Kotoshogiku
2016.11, Day 10-12, O1w Kisenosato
 

[Asashosakari]

10 consecutive wins in makuuchi debut:

1938.05 Kashimanada (Day 4-13, final record 12-1)
1945.11 Chiyonoyama (Day 1-10, final record 10-0)
1960.01 Taiho (Day 1-11, final record 12-3)
1967.03 Mutsuarashi (Day 4-15, final record 13-2)
2016.11 Ishiura (Day 2-11)

[kuroimori]

2 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

List of rikishi who have beaten yokozuna opponents on three consecutive days:

1938.05, Day 11-13, Y1e Futabayama
1949.05, Day 11-13, O1w Masuiyama
1951.09, Day 13-15, Y1e Azumafuji
1952.01, Day 13-15, Y2e Haguroyama
1957.09, Day 10-12, O1e Wakanohana
1980.05, Day 13-15, Y1e Kitanoumi
1990.01, Day 13-15, O1e Konishiki
1991.01, Day 13-15, O1e Kirishima
2016.01, Day 10-12, O2e Kotoshogiku
2016.11, Day 10-12, O1w Kisenosato
 

Kise is also the first guy ever to win against (all) 3 Yokozuna AND lose to 3 Maegashira in the same basho. Incredible.

[Asashosakari]

12 minutes ago, kuroimori said:

Kise is also the first guy ever to win against (all) 3 Yokozuna AND lose to 3 Maegashira in the same basho. Incredible.

I'll raise you 4 wins against yokozuna and 5 losses to maegashira.

[Naganoyama]

10 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

I'll raise you 4 wins against yokozuna and 5 losses to maegashira.

And this man also beat this opponent and this one, both of whom were to become Yokozuna.

Edited November 25, 2016 by Naganoyama

[kuroimori]

10 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

I'll raise you 4 wins against yokozuna and 5 losses to maegashira.

Wow! any chance they are related...?

[Naganoyama]

1 minute ago, Naganoyama said:

And this man also beat this opponent and this one, both of whom were to become Yokozuna.

Not to mention the fact that one of the maegashira he lost to was this man, also destined to become Yokozuna

[Asashosakari]

46 minutes ago, Naganoyama said:

Not to mention the fact that one of the maegashira he lost to was this man, also destined to become Yokozuna

And Chiyonoyama at sekiwake, too! That would be a fun bit of trivia actually, most current or future yokozuna faced in a single basho. These 8 bouts just might be the record already, but trying to ascertain that is probably an awful lot of query work without direct DB access.

Edit: Just to add, after checking the 40-odd guys who beat 3+ yokozuna in a single basho, it's indeed true that Kisenosato and Saganohana are the only ones to lose to more than 2 maegashira in the same basho.

Edited November 25, 2016 by Asashosakari