Broken Records and Milestones

[Kintamayama]

I was walking along the street picking my nose when I realized we don't have a thread for records that are broken or milestones that are reached in one organized place. So I thought "Why not start one??

So I didn't.

Haru 2015 Day 6- Hakuhou ties for second place (with Chiyonofuji) the all-time number of wins in Makuuchi- 807

Hakuhou-5th time to achieve 30 consecutive wins-he is first, passing Taihou.

Terunofuji-first shin-Sanyaku in 71 years to have a 6-0 start.

All three Ozeki lost yesterday-first time all Ozeki (at least three) lose since January 2013 day 4 when there four Ozeki.

[Asameshimae]

Cool:

Haru 2015 Day 6: Kyokutenho achieved 1431 total bouts in makuuchi to pass Takamiyama - if Tenho lasts one more tournament (not trying to jinx him), on the 5th day he will pass....wait for it....Kaio.

Edited March 13, 2015 by Asameshimae

[specialweek 2]

I was walking along the street picking my nose when I realized we don't have a thread for records that are broken or milestones that are reached in one organized place. So I thought "Why not start one??

So I didn't.

Haru 2015 Day 6- Hakuhou ties for second place (with Chiyonofuji) the all-time number of wins in Makuuchi- 807

Hakuhou-5th time to achieve 30 consecutive wins-he is first, passing Taihou.

Terunofuji-first shin-Sanyaku in 71 years to have a 6-0 start.

All three Ozeki lost yesterday-first time all Ozeki (at least three) lose since January 2013 day 4 when there four Ozeki.

NHK said Day 6 he is the only shin sanyaku to go 6-0.

[ALAKTORN]

^Yeah that stat seemed weird to me. 71 years ago they didn’t even establish the 6 basho per year yet? Not sure you can compare them.

Edited March 14, 2015 by ALAKTORN

[kuroimori]

I was walking along the street picking my nose when I realized we don't have a thread for records that are broken or milestones that are reached in one organized place. So I thought "Why not start one??

So I didn't.

Haru 2015 Day 6- Hakuhou ties for second place (with Chiyonofuji) the all-time number of wins in Makuuchi- 807

Hakuhou-5th time to achieve 30 consecutive wins-he is first, passing Taihou.

Terunofuji-first shin-Sanyaku in 71 years to have a 6-0 start.

All three Ozeki lost yesterday-first time all Ozeki (at least three) lose since January 2013 day 4 when there four Ozeki.

NHK said Day 6 he is the only shin sanyaku to go 6-0.

That's probably the first 6-0 Sekiwake since the 15-match basho format was introduced.

[Asameshimae]

Yes that is what the announcer said, since the introduction of the 15 day basho system.

[Tenshinhan]

Terunofuji-first shin-Sanyaku in 71 years to have a 6-0 start.

Now Terunofuji is the first shin-Sanyaku in 75 years to have a 7-0 start.

The basho of Itsutsushima in May 1940 also had 15 days...

[kotoshikona]

There has to be some kind of record relating to Aminishiki and variety of kimarite.

[yorikiried by fate]

I was walking along the street picking my nose when I realized we don't have a thread for records that are broken or milestones that are reached in one organized place. So I thought "Why not start one??

So I didn't.

Haru 2015 Day 6- Hakuhou ties for second place (with Chiyonofuji) the all-time number of wins in Makuuchi- 807

Hakuhou-5th time to achieve 30 consecutive wins-he is first, passing Taihou.

Terunofuji-first shin-Sanyaku in 71 years to have a 6-0 start.

All three Ozeki lost yesterday-first time all Ozeki (at least three) lose since January 2013 day 4 when there four Ozeki.

NHK said Day 6 he is the only shin sanyaku to go 6-0.

That's probably the first 6-0 Sekiwake since the 15-match basho format was introduced.

I'm somehow lost now in what exactly was supposed to be achieved first in which timeframe, but for the records (no pun intended): Aminishiki started his shin-Sekiwake (i.e. not shin-sanyaku) basho with 8-0 back in 2007.

[Kintamayama]

I was walking along the street picking my nose when I realized we don't have a thread for records that are broken or milestones that are reached in one organized place. So I thought "Why not start one??

So I didn't.

Haru 2015 Day 6- Hakuhou ties for second place (with Chiyonofuji) the all-time number of wins in Makuuchi- 807

Hakuhou-5th time to achieve 30 consecutive wins-he is first, passing Taihou.

Terunofuji-first shin-Sanyaku in 71 years to have a 6-0 start.

All three Ozeki lost yesterday-first time all Ozeki (at least three) lose since January 2013 day 4 when there four Ozeki.

NHK said Day 6 he is the only shin sanyaku to go 6-0.

That's probably the first 6-0 Sekiwake since the 15-match basho format was introduced.

I'm somehow lost now in what exactly was supposed to be achieved first in which timeframe, but for the records (no pun intended): Aminishiki started his shin-Sekiwake (i.e. not shin-sanyaku) basho with 8-0 back in 2007.

First shin-sanyaku, not shin-sekiwake.

[yorikiried by fate]

Re: 8-0 as shin-Sekiwake: As did Taiho and Chiyonofuji BTW.

Edited March 14, 2015 by yorikiried by fate

[Kintamayama]

Haru 2015 Day 6- Hakuhou ties for second place (with Chiyonofuji) the all-time number of wins in Makuuchi- 807

Hakuhou-5th time to achieve 30 consecutive wins-he is first, passing Taihou.

With win number 808 he has now surpassed Chiyonofuji.

[Kaiomitsuki]

Re: 8-0 as shin-Sekiwake: As did Taiho and Chiyonofuji BTW.

Shin-Sekiwake 8-0 after day 8 :

Futabayama 1936.05 (11-0 Zensho-yusho)

Taiho 1960.09 (8-0 after day 8 .. first lost day 9... finale record 12-3)

Chiyonofuji 1980.11 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 11-4)

Aminishiki 2007.09 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 10-5)

Kotooshu 2005.09 (12-0 after day 12... first lost day 13... finale record 13-2)

[Asameshimae]

Right, first shin-sanyaku, not first shin-sekiwake to have the record in 75 years.

It would seem, that being allowed to skip komusubi has made it a bit easier to achieve this feat no? As the first week for a komusubi is traditionally a real meat grinder. I realize I may be stating the obvious for some, but I thought it should be said.

Taking a good look at his schedule so far, I am not saying it was a cake walk by any means, but it is certainly easier than even the average sekiwake schedule. His true baptism of fire starts today.

Edited March 14, 2015 by Asameshimae

[krindel]

Right, first shin-sanyaku, not first shin-sekiwake to have the record in 75 years.

It would seem, that being allowed to skip komusubi has made it a bit easier to achieve this feat no? As the first week for a komusubi is traditionally a real meat grinder. I realize I may be stating the obvious for some, but I thought it should be said.

Taking a good look at his schedule so far, I am not saying it was a cake walk by any means, but it is certainly easier than even the average sekiwake schedule. His true baptism of fire starts today.

Hakuho's last loss to a shin-sanyaku was in 2006 to Asasekiryu of all people. That alone would make a 7-0 for a shin-komusubi a very, very impressive feat indeed.

Although I guess becoming the first shin-sanyaku to beat Hakuho as Yokozuna could also be another target for Terunofuji this basho, who knows? :-)

By the way, I was fiddling with the database, and noticed that Hakuho has lost only to 18 different rikishi since becoming Yokozuna... By comparison (and not counting fusen losses), Asashoryu had 26, Takanohana had 27, Chiyonofuji 35, Taiho 38 and Kitanoumi 41.

[kuroimori]

Re: 8-0 as shin-Sekiwake: As did Taiho and Chiyonofuji BTW.

Shin-Sekiwake 8-0 after day 8 :

Futabayama 1936.05 (11-0 Zensho-yusho)

Taiho 1960.09 (8-0 after day 8 .. first lost day 9... finale record 12-3)

Chiyonofuji 1980.11 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 11-4)

Aminishiki 2007.09 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 10-5)

Kotooshu 2005.09 (12-0 after day 12... first lost day 13... finale record 13-2)

Now that is pretty nice company Terunofuji is joining there!

[Asameshimae]

"By the way, I was fiddling with the database

I hope you put it back like you found it, Krindel.

I know, I know; stay on topic.

[Kaiomitsuki]

Re: 8-0 as shin-Sekiwake: As did Taiho and Chiyonofuji BTW.

Shin-Sekiwake 8-0 after day 8 :

Futabayama 1936.05 (11-0 Zensho-yusho)

Taiho 1960.09 (8-0 after day 8 .. first lost day 9... finale record 12-3)

Chiyonofuji 1980.11 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 11-4)

Aminishiki 2007.09 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 10-5)

Kotooshu 2005.09 (12-0 after day 12... first lost day 13... finale record 13-2)

Now that is pretty nice company Terunofuji is joining there!

Terunofuji (7-1) will not be in this club ;)

other Shin-Sekiwake with a 7-0 Wakanohana III (1993.05) ... like Terunofuji he lost on Nakabi

[Kintamayama]

Kyokutenhou tied for 8th place with Takamiyama on the all time Makuuchi win list- 683.

[krindel]

Technically that belongs to the previous basho, but I can't actually find mention for it so thought I'd put it here. My apologies if its a re-post.

On the 1st day of Hatsu, Kyokutenho became the oldest sekitori to fight (and win) a bout in the post war era surpassing Hirosegawa.

[Tenshinhan]

Re: 8-0 as shin-Sekiwake: As did Taiho and Chiyonofuji BTW.

Shin-Sekiwake 8-0 after day 8 :

Futabayama 1936.05 (11-0 Zensho-yusho)

Taiho 1960.09 (8-0 after day 8 .. first lost day 9... finale record 12-3)

Chiyonofuji 1980.11 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 11-4)

Aminishiki 2007.09 (8-0 after day 8... first lost day 9... finale record 10-5)

Kotooshu 2005.09 (12-0 after day 12... first lost day 13... finale record 13-2)

Now that is pretty nice company Terunofuji is joining there!

He isn't joining them at all because he is not 8-0.

[yorikiried by fate]

Hakuho has now 37 perfect first week records (8-0), extending his own record.

The next four guys in this list are Chiyonofuji (25), Asashoryu (23), Taiho (22), Kitanoumi (20).

[I am the Yokozuna]

So many obscure and irrelevant "records and statistics" that are hugely influenced by baseball themed data prevalent in US sport broadcasting. Who would strike out a left hander on a windy night under lights in fair temperatures. GTFOH. I know that there are many US citizens/residents on the board but please......

As the England cricket coach pointed out to each question in regards why his team did not undertake a different approach, why his team did not bat first, why did he not choose different players against Bangladesh in what was the game that knocked them out of the WC - "But the data suggested......"

Yeah, it has its place in the sport, but is hardly illuminating.

[Asameshimae]

So many obscure and irrelevant "records and statistics" that are hugely influenced by baseball themed data prevalent in US sport broadcasting. Who would strike out a left hander on a windy night under lights in fair temperatures. GTFOH. I know that there are many US citizens/residents on the board but please......

As the England cricket coach pointed out to each question in regards why his team did not undertake a different approach, why his team did not bat first, why did he not choose different players against Bangladesh in what was the game that knocked them out of the WC - "But the data suggested......"

Yeah, it has its place in the sport, but is hardly illuminating.

So many obscure and irrelevant "records and statistics" that are hugely influenced by baseball themed data prevalent in US sport broadcasting. Who would strike out a left hander on a windy night under lights in fair temperatures. GTFOH. I know that there are many US citizens/residents on the board but please......

As the England cricket coach pointed out to each question in regards why his team did not undertake a different approach, why his team did not bat first, why did he not choose different players against Bangladesh in what was the game that knocked them out of the WC - "But the data suggested......"

Yeah, it has its place in the sport, but is hardly illuminating.

A valid observation made all the less illuminating by pointlessly pigeon holing Americans and American baseball. I find many of the "banzuke topics" published on the NSK website to be overly elaborate and near meaningless, but I don't feel the need to blame it on a nationality or another sport.

[Kintamayama]

So many obscure and irrelevant "records and statistics" that are hugely influenced by baseball themed data prevalent in US sport broadcasting. Who would strike out a left hander on a windy night under lights in fair temperatures. GTFOH. I know that there are many US citizens/residents on the board but please......

As the England cricket coach pointed out to each question in regards why his team did not undertake a different approach, why his team did not bat first, why did he not choose different players against Bangladesh in what was the game that knocked them out of the WC - "But the data suggested......"

Yeah, it has its place in the sport, but is hardly illuminating.

I disagree.