chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Day 15 Bout Time: 10,8 => 11 http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=33770 Shikona DAY 15 Diff Result Result Order orandashoho 11 0 WIN 1 Pandaazuma 10 1 WIN 2 Pitinosato 10 1 WIN 2 Achiyama 9 2 WIN 4 Ayagawa 9 2 WIN 4 Profomisakari 9 2 WIN 4 Shokikogi 9 2 WIN 4 Senkoho 8 3 WIN 8 Chisaiyama 7 4 LOSS 9 chishafuwaku 7 4 LOSS 9 Shimodahito 7 4 LOSS 9 Tenshinhan 7 4 LOSS 9 Jakusotsu 6 5 LOSS 13 kuroimori 6 5 LOSS 13 ScreechingOwl 6 5 LOSS 13 Taka 6 5 LOSS 13 Holleshoryu 5 6 LOSS 17 Susanoo 5 6 LOSS 17 Andonishiki … FUSEN 19 Tsunamiko … FUSEN 19 MEDIAN 4 chishafuwaku Edited March 22, 2015 by chishafuwaku
chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Final Standings Shikona D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 D10 D11 D12 D13 D14 D15 SCORE chishafuwaku 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 11-4 Pitinosato 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 10-5 shimodahito 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 10-5 kuroimori 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 9-6 Ayagawa 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 9-6 orandashoho 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 9-6 Jakusotsu 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 9-6 Shokikogi … 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 8-6-1 Profomisakari 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 8-7 ScreechingOwl 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 8-7 Chisaiyama 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 7-8 Taka 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 7-8 Pandaazuma 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 6-9 Susanoo 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 6-9 Achiyama 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 6-9 Holleshoryu 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 6-9 Senkoho 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 6-9 Tenshinhan 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 5-10 Andonishiki 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 … … … … 0 … … … 3-5-7 Tsunamiko 0 1 0 1 1 0 … 0 0 … … … … … … 3-5-7 Yusho: chishafuwaku (First prize...) Jun-Yusho: Pitinosato and shimodahito (Second prize...) (Second prize...) chishafuwaku Edited March 22, 2015 by chishafuwaku
chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Shukun-sho Shikona D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 D10 D11 D12 D13 D14 D15 Score KK SHUKUN chishafuwaku 2 2 1 4 5 1 3 4 1 2 0 9 0 0 4 11-4 (3 - 3 - 3) Pitinosato 2 3 0 2 8 0 5 5 0 5 1 10 1 2 1 10-5 (3 - 3 - 3) Susanoo 8 2 0 2 0 2 3 2 2 5 0 11 3 16 6 6-9 NO (3 - 0 - 5) Ayagawa 2 0 1 3 8 1 5 5 0 1 1 12 1 4 2 9-6 (2 - 5 - 2) orandashoho 3 4 2 3 5 1 5 4 1 4 1 11 0 1 0 9-6 (2 - 4 - 1) Holleshoryu 4 0 0 1 8 2 6 4 1 3 2 13 1 3 6 6-9 NO (2 - 3 - 2) ScreechingOwl 3 1 2 4 6 1 4 4 0 5 3 11 0 1 5 8-7 (2 - 3 - 1) Achiyama 5 3 8 2 6 0 5 3 2 5 2 10 1 3 2 6-9 NO (1 - 1 - 4) Taka 2 2 6 4 7 0 3 3 2 3 1 12 0 3 5 7-8 NO (2 - 1 - 3) Tenshinhan 0 3 5 3 1 1 6 7 1 5 3 11 2 1 4 5-10 NO (1 - 4 - 1) kuroimori 7 3 1 5 4 2 3 2 2 3 0 10 1 1 5 9-6 (1 - 3 - 3) shimodahito 3 1 2 1 6 0 3 2 2 3 3 9 3 2 4 10-5 (1 - 2 - 4) Chisaiyama 3 3 2 1 6 6 4 4 2 3 3 10 0 3 4 7-8 NO (1 - 1 - 2) Andonishiki 6 1 3 0 5 2 6 … … … … 13 … … … 3-5-7 NO (1 - 1 - 1) Tsunamiko 4 1 3 0 4 3 … 7 2 … … … … … … 3-5-7 NO (1 - 1 - 1) Profomisakari 1 1 7 1 6 1 5 5 2 2 1 12 1 3 2 8-7 (0 - 6 - 3) Jakusotsu 3 1 7 1 7 1 4 3 1 4 2 10 2 1 5 9-6 (0 - 5 - 2) Senkoho 2 2 2 4 7 1 4 4 1 4 4 11 2 4 3 6-9 NO (0 - 2 - 4) Pandaazuma 4 3 20 5 5 2 4 3 3 4 1 10 2 20 1 6-9 NO (0 - 2 - 2) Shokikogi … 4 2 5 4 2 3 2 1 4 5 10 2 2 2 8-6-1 (0 - 1 - 6) Shukun-sho: chishafuwaku and Pitinosato (First prize...) (First prize...) chishafuwaku Edited March 22, 2015 by chishafuwaku
chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Gino-sho Shikona D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 D10 D11 D12 D13 D14 D15 Score GINO chishafuwaku 3 9 4 14 6 5 1 9 4 2 1 1 1 1 9 11-4 70 shimodahito 8 3 7 3 10 1 1 1 11 4 13 1 17 7 9 10-5 96 orandashoho 8 19 7 11 6 5 12 9 4 9 4 10 1 2 1 9-6 108 Pitinosato 3 13 1 8 18 1 12 15 1 14 4 3 6 7 2 10-5 108 kuroimori 18 13 4 18 3 13 1 1 11 4 1 3 6 2 13 9-6 111 Ayagawa 3 1 4 11 18 5 12 15 1 1 4 15 6 15 4 9-6 115 Jakusotsu 8 3 17 3 15 5 7 5 4 9 10 3 12 2 13 9-6 116 ScreechingOwl 8 3 7 14 10 5 7 9 1 14 13 10 1 2 13 8-7 117 Profomisakari 2 3 17 3 10 5 12 15 11 2 4 15 6 10 4 8-7 119 Taka 3 9 16 14 15 1 1 5 11 4 4 15 1 10 13 7-8 122 Chisaiyama 8 13 7 3 10 20 7 9 11 4 13 3 1 10 9 7-8 128 Shokikogi 20 19 7 18 3 13 1 1 4 9 18 3 12 7 4 8-6-1 139 Susanoo 19 9 1 8 1 13 1 1 11 14 1 10 17 17 17 6-9 140 Achiyama 16 13 19 8 10 1 12 5 11 14 10 3 6 10 4 6-9 142 Holleshoryu 13 1 1 3 18 13 17 9 4 4 10 18 6 10 17 6-9 144 Senkoho 3 9 7 14 15 5 7 9 4 9 17 10 12 15 8 6-9 144 Tenshinhan 1 13 15 11 2 5 17 18 4 14 13 10 12 2 9 5-10 146 Pandaazuma 13 13 20 18 6 13 7 5 19 9 4 3 12 18 2 6-9 162 Tsunamiko 13 3 13 1 3 19 20 18 11 19 19 20 19 19 19 3-5-7 216 Andonishiki 17 3 13 1 6 13 17 20 20 19 19 18 19 19 19 3-5-7 223 Gino-sho: chishafuwaku (First prize...) chishafuwaku Edited March 22, 2015 by chishafuwaku
chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Kanto-sho Shikona D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7 D8 D9 D10 D11 D12 D13 D14 D15 Sum Score KK KANTO Senkoho 3 0 7 0 0 5 7 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 8 34 6-9 NO 5,67 Chisaiyama 8 0 7 3 0 0 7 0 0 4 0 3 1 0 0 33 7-8 NO 4,71 Achiyama 0 0 0 8 0 1 0 5 0 0 0 3 6 0 4 27 6-9 NO 4,5 Pandaazuma 0 0 0 0 6 0 7 5 0 0 4 3 0 0 2 27 6-9 NO 4,5 Jakusotsu 8 3 0 3 0 5 7 5 4 0 0 3 0 2 0 40 9-6 4,44 ScreechingOwl 8 3 7 0 0 5 7 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 0 34 8-7 4,25 orandashoho 8 0 7 0 6 5 0 0 4 0 4 0 1 2 1 38 9-6 4,22 Shokikogi 0 0 7 0 3 0 1 1 4 0 0 3 0 7 4 30 8-6-1 3,75 Profomisakari 2 3 0 3 0 5 0 0 0 2 4 0 6 0 4 29 8-7 3,63 Pitinosato 3 0 1 8 0 1 0 0 1 0 4 3 6 7 2 36 10-5 3,6 shimodahito 8 3 7 3 0 1 1 1 0 4 0 1 0 7 0 36 10-5 3,6 Andonishiki 0 3 0 1 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 3-5-7 NO 3,33 Ayagawa 3 1 4 0 0 5 0 0 1 1 4 0 6 0 4 29 9-6 3,22 Holleshoryu 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 0 4 4 0 0 6 0 0 19 6-9 NO 3,17 Tenshinhan 1 0 0 0 2 5 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 14 5-10 NO 2,8 kuroimori 0 0 4 0 3 0 1 1 0 4 1 3 6 2 0 25 9-6 2,78 Taka 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 5 0 4 4 0 1 0 0 19 7-8 NO 2,71 chishafuwaku 3 0 4 0 6 5 1 0 4 2 1 1 1 1 0 29 11-4 2,64 Tsunamiko 0 3 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 3-5-7 NO 2,33 Susanoo 0 0 1 8 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 13 6-9 NO 2,17 Yesterday (post 365) I forgot Jakusotsu`s chances. Apologies especially to orandashoho. Kanto-sho: Jakusotsu (First prize...) chishafuwaku Edited March 22, 2015 by chishafuwaku
Shokikogi Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 The kachi-koshi is like a yusho after the harsh make-koshi last basho and the 0-2 start into this basho. Thanks again for your reminder message at the first day, chisha! Congrats to you, chishafuwaku. I´ve written "don´t worry" in the 21 Haru-Thread and I was right. Good for you ;-) And even congrats to Jakusotsu and his kanto-sho and pitinosato for his shukun-sho! They must be glad to win this prices in the shadow of the dominator of Bout Time Haru 15 :-) I´m looking forward to the next basho!
orandashoho Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Seems I missed the kanto-sho because I won the final day. How stupid of me. :-P
chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Banzuke Natsu 15 EAST RANK WEST chishafuwaku (M2e 11-4 YSG) K Ayagawa (M2e 9-6) orandashoho (M3e 9-6) M1 Jakusotsu (M5e 9-6 K) shimodahito (M7w 10-5 J) M2 kuroimori (M6e 9-6) Profomisakari (M4w 8-7) M3 Pitinosato (mz 10-5 JS) Senkoho (M3w 6-9) M4 Shokikogi (M8w 8-6-1) ScreechingOwl (mz 8-7) M5 Tenshinhan (M4e 5-10) Chisaiyama (mz 7-8) M6 Taka (mz 7-8) Susanoo (M8e 6-9) M7 Pandaazuma (mz 6-9) Achiyama (mz 6-9) M8 Holleshoryu (mz 6-9) Andonishiki (M6w 3-5-7) M9 Tsukiko (M1e Kyujo) Mmikasazuma (M1w Kyujo) M10 Tsunamiko (mz 3-5-7) Ganzohnesushi (M5w Kyujo) M11 Wamahada (M7e Kyujo) Pandaazuma, Achiyama and Holleshoryu obtained their places because of their values Y_TIE. chishafuwaku Edited March 24, 2015 by chishafuwaku
chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Seems I missed the kanto-sho because I won the final day. How stupid of me. :-P But then you would be M1w instead of the more prestigious rank M1E ;-) chishafuwaku Edited March 22, 2015 by chishafuwaku
chishafuwaku Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) I thank all participants. Hopefully those who played this time do not give up next basho. Hopefully Tsukiko (our first yusho) and Mmikasazuma can return. I think Ganzohnesushi did not participate this time because he was clearly and rightlyn upset by its Sumo Game situation. I hope Wamahada think again and maybe take a new chance. We can always hope that there are more new participantes because with more, more fun. (Kensho parade...) Everyone are free to say what they think is wrong and can be changed. (Sign of disapproval...) They can also write positive feedback. (Sign of approval...) chishafuwaku Edited March 22, 2015 by chishafuwaku
orandashoho Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Seems I missed the kanto-sho because I won the final day. How stupid of me. :-P But then you would be M1w instead of the more prestigious rank M1E ;-) chishafuwaku ok, ok. I hadn't seen the banzuke yet. Positive feedback: much better now that the difference between guessed and actual (rounded) times don't distinguish between positive or negative difference. がんばります !
Pitinosato Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Do I need to beg for Kosho when I can't partizipate this Basho ? I needed, I herby ask for Kosho for Natsu 2015 Pitinosato
Tenshinhan Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Not sure if the game is possible this time as Akinomaki probably can't post the bout length. :-(
Pandaazuma Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I'd like to post intai from this one as I am already playing too many dailies. Sorry about that.
Pitinosato Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 On 5.3.2015 at 04:04, chishafuwaku said: ODD NUMBER OF PLAYERS 1) All differences are not equal to the median IMPOSSIBLE Hi chisha, is this really absolutely impossible ? Look at this example: Bets: A 1, B 2, C 2, D 9, E 10 Length of the Bout: 2 Differences: 1, 0, 0, 7, 8 Median: 16 : 5 = 3,2 === 3 No difference ist equal to the median !?! Pitinosato
chishafuwaku Posted January 18, 2017 Author Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Pitinosato said: Hi chisha, is this really absolutely impossible ? Look at this example: Bets: A 1, B 2, C 2, D 9, E 10 Length of the Bout: 2 Differences: 1, 0, 0, 7, 8 Median: 16 : 5 = 3,2 === 3 No difference ist equal to the median !?! Pitinosato I always use the median and not the mean (or average) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_mean By definition when you have an odd number the median is the central value, so it is impossible that all are different from the median (at least there is one) The advantage is that when using the median and not the average, the extreme values are not important. For example A = 0 B = 0 C = 1 D = 2 E = 2 => Median = 1 and Mean = 5 : 5 = 1 but A = 0 B = 0 C = 1 D = 2 E = 12 => Median = 1 (stays the same) and Mean = 15 : 5 = 3 (changes a lot) In this game we want to divide in two parts the players (winners and losers) That's why I used the median and not the average to do it. The problem arises when there are several players that have the same bet as the median value. It was therefore necessary to have some mechanism that would decide this. And that's what you found chishafuwaku
Pitinosato Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Thank you very much for the Maths-Lesson After I wrote that I had a closer look, and made an Excel with my Data. Now I know what Median is, vs. Average. I understand you need a method to divide the players in all cases. And that's a good one ! Peter
orandashoho Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 @Profomisakari this is an old thread. Go to this one to post our pick for Hatsu 2017.15.
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