Orion Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 The most striking example of respect for long retired rikishi is Kitanofuji. When he walks into a heya he gets the seat front and centre right beside the shisho if not the man's cushion itself. Every yokozuna will greet him as if he were still active and senior despite the fact that he retired a full decade before any of them were born Kitanofuji has, of course, been NHK's main commentator for many years. On the Japanese side, that's worth quite a lot. Orion
Masumasumasu Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 The most striking example of respect for long retired rikishi is Kitanofuji. When he walks into a heya he gets the seat front and centre right beside the shisho if not the man's cushion itself. Every yokozuna will greet him as if he were still active and senior despite the fact that he retired a full decade before any of them were born Kitanofuji has, of course, been NHK's main commentator for many years. On the Japanese side, that's worth quite a lot. Orion He deserves the respect for his sumo accomplishments!!!
kuroimori Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 And now for something completely different : I am going out on a limb and say that neither Konishiki nor Hakuho would reach Ozeki ... in the Sumo Game Super Banzuke ;-) 4
CT3* Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Video of Konishiki in Jerusalem.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk7a21vzmGw#t=38 Kintamayama can also be spotted in the video! Edited October 24, 2014 by CT3* 3
sekitori Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 The concussion issue in the NFL is a time bomb in sumo too. I disagree. Football helmets are like boxing gloves. Insidious, because they create the perception of false-safety. If NFL players were suddenly stripped of their helmets and pads, the injury rate would decline sharply. Sumo doesn't have an issue with dementia the way that the NFL has (and the Japanese have been doing sumo A LOT longer than the NFL has been doing their thing). Helmets may create a perception of false safety but they do provide a great deal (but not enough) of real safety. A big problem is that, in addition to providing protection, helmets can sometimes be used as a weapon for attack and instead of protection, that could cause injury to the brain and spine. Even so, the advantages of wearing helmets and other protective padding far outweigh their disadvantages. With football being the violent game that it is, the removal of all bodily protection would be disastrous and the rate of injury, already high, would skyrocket. As for sumo not having an issue with dementia, how exactly do you know that? Being as secretive as they are, the powers behind sumo would never make it known that some (possibly many) retired rikishis are walking around with diminished mental capacity because they have been constantly bonking heads with each other for many years. It makes complete sense that such activity could affect brain function. If you have proof that this is not a possible cause of dementia, please let us know exactly what it is.
ronnie Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 The concussion issue in the NFL is a time bomb in sumo too. I disagree. Football helmets are like boxing gloves. Insidious, because they create the perception of false-safety. If NFL players were suddenly stripped of their helmets and pads, the injury rate would decline sharply. Sumo doesn't have an issue with dementia the way that the NFL has (and the Japanese have been doing sumo A LOT longer than the NFL has been doing their thing). Helmets may create a perception of false safety but they do provide a great deal (but not enough) of real safety. A big problem is that, in addition to providing protection, helmets can sometimes be used as a weapon for attack and instead of protection, that could cause injury to the brain and spine. Even so, the advantages of wearing helmets and other protective padding far outweigh their disadvantages. With football being the violent game that it is, the removal of all bodily protection would be disastrous and the rate of injury, already high, would skyrocket. As for sumo not having an issue with dementia, how exactly do you know that? Being as secretive as they are, the powers behind sumo would never make it known that some (possibly many) retired rikishis are walking around with diminished mental capacity because they have been constantly bonking heads with each other for many years. It makes complete sense that such activity could affect brain function. If you have proof that this is not a possible cause of dementia, please let us know exactly what it is. Apologies for continuing off topic, but to suggest that injuries would skyrocket in American Football without body armour is a little misguided. Try to watch some Rugby League Football (of which American Football is an almost direct copy), and you'll notice very little in the way of that kind of protection. All the body armour does is promote greater needless violent contact. 1
Asashosakari Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Apologies for continuing off topic, but to suggest that injuries would skyrocket in American Football without body armour is a little misguided. Try to watch some Rugby League Football (of which American Football is an almost direct copy), and you'll notice very little in the way of that kind of protection. All the body armour does is promote greater needless violent contact.The difference being that rugby players are trained for that kind of no-protection competition. Remove body armour from today's NFL players who have competed with it since being in junior high school or earlier, and you have a guaranteed disaster on your hands. You'd need a completely new generation of players to make that work. 1
Masumasumasu Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Apologies for continuing off topic, but to suggest that injuries would skyrocket in American Football without body armour is a little misguided. Try to watch some Rugby League Football (of which American Football is an almost direct copy), and you'll notice very little in the way of that kind of protection. All the body armour does is promote greater needless violent contact.The difference being that rugby players are trained for that kind of no-protection competition. Remove body armour from today's NFL players who have competed with it since being in junior high school or earlier, and you have a guaranteed disaster on your hands. You'd need a completely new generation of players to make that work. Remove the pads and the players will behave differently. NFL players may not be smart but they still have that very human sense of self-preservation. The point is that pads do more harm than good.
Masumasumasu Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Video of Konishiki in Jerusalem.. Kintamayama can also be spotted in the video! Glad to see that Konishiki kept his head covered. Baruch HaShem!
Orion Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) The most striking example of respect for long retired rikishi is Kitanofuji. When he walks into a heya he gets the seat front and centre right beside the shisho if not the man's cushion itself. Every yokozuna will greet him as if he were still active and senior despite the fact that he retired a full decade before any of them were born Kitanofuji has, of course, been NHK's main commentator for many years. On the Japanese side, that's worth quite a lot. Orion He deserves the respect for his sumo accomplishments!!! The point is that he has always been famous for not only his sumo; as a yokozuna he was handsome and attractive to women, and at that time he had a famous ballerina for a girlfriend. When he retired he was an articulate sumo expert, and still a very handsome man with an attractive personality. That is why he was snapped up by NHK when he quit the Kyokai and came onto the general market. To this day he is made extremely welcome wherever he goes -- I've seen it myself -- but for many reasons including longstanding personal friendships. Orion Edited November 1, 2014 by Otokonoyama quote tag mess
Kintamayama Posted October 26, 2014 Author Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Video of Konishiki in Jerusalem.. Kintamayama can also be spotted in the video! Glad to see that Konishiki kept his head covered. Baruch HaShem! He always keeps his head covered-nothing to do with Baruch or Hashem.. Edited October 26, 2014 by Kintamayama 1
Masumasumasu Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Video of Konishiki in Jerusalem.. Kintamayama can also be spotted in the video! Glad to see that Konishiki kept his head covered. Baruch HaShem! He always keeps his head covered-nothing to do with Baruch or Hashem.. Oh. I thought that he was B'nei Noach.
Kintamayama Posted October 26, 2014 Author Posted October 26, 2014 Glad to see that Konishiki kept his head covered. Baruch HaShem!He always keeps his head covered-nothing to do with Baruch or Hashem.. Oh. I thought that he was B'nei Noach. No, he's Bnei Adam. I asked. 1
Kintamayama Posted October 29, 2014 Author Posted October 29, 2014 The promo looks awesome, Moti! I just hope the expectations aren't too high. Let's not forget it's only me asking some questions and mostly looking like a 14 year old fan of One Direction.. 4
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