Aki 2014 Basho Comments

[Pandaazuma]

Doitsuyama has awarded Yoshikaze the kinboshi on his database...so that settles it, I guess!

Really?

Might be last basho you are seeing.

Hmmm! I saw it earlier...maybe it was automatically awarded but later removed by Doitsuyama manually. Either that or I've lost my marbles!

[alaninjapan]

Homepage showing Harumafuji has pulled out of the basho.

[Vikanohara]

And what about Terunofuji?

He's the biggest hope imho

Terunofuji will not go beyond sekiwake.

Why not ? In about 2 to 3 years from now, most from Hakuho, Harumafuji, Kakuryu, Kotoshogiku, Takekaze, Toyonoshima, Yoshikaze, Toyohibiki, Aminishiki, Shohozan, Tamawashi, Kitataiki, Okinoumi, Tokitenku and perhaps also Kyokutenho ;-) will be gone. I don't see too many who would surpass him. Ichinojo probably, Osunaarashi & Chiyootori maybe, but don't see many more to keep him from at least an Ozeki rank. Upcoming Abiko (who's on a 22-1 record) is 4 months older and both Shodai & Shiba (15-1 each) a month older & younger.

[kuroimori]

Homepage showing Harumafuji has pulled out of the basho.

A not so nice pull combination:

First he pulled Yoshikaze's hair and then he pulls again - out of the tournament. ;-)

[Kintamayama]

Doitsuyama has awarded Yoshikaze the kinboshi on his database...so that settles it, I guess!

Really?

Might be last basho you are seeing.

Hmmm! I saw it earlier...maybe it was automatically awarded but later removed by Doitsuyama manually. Either that or I've lost my marbles!

No, you are OK. It was corrected.

[Jakusotsu]

Rank-and-file?? This is for me a maegashira who struggles to get into the joi-jin and gets whooped when there. Tochinoshin actually was a joi-jin regular from age 22 to 25, and it wouldn't surprise me if he is even stronger now at age 26 and with a good amount of rest (and looking fully healthy of course).

Apart from another odd Komusubi appearance, I don't see Tochinoshin reaching sanyaku.

Steak?

[Doitsuyama]

Rank-and-file?? This is for me a maegashira who struggles to get into the joi-jin and gets whooped when there. Tochinoshin actually was a joi-jin regular from age 22 to 25, and it wouldn't surprise me if he is even stronger now at age 26 and with a good amount of rest (and looking fully healthy of course).

Apart from another odd Komusubi appearance, I don't see Tochinoshin reaching sanyaku.

Steak?

Of course he might get injured, but yes, steak. I give you one komusubi appearance, but two komusubi or a sekiwake debut, and it's mine. :-) You know, so far he is comparing favorably with the best of marches from low makushita in history, going 32-2 with three yusho so far, still competing with Miyabiyama's record setting 40-4 with four yusho.

[visitor_22]

Ichinojo goes 5-0!

Not bad for Makuuchi debutant.

Edited September 18, 2014 by visitor_22

[kuroimori]

...and while Kyokutenho misses a step, Ichinojo outlasted Chiyoootori in a loooong epic battle of grmph

[visitor_22]

Can you give link to watch online please?

:-D​

[Propmanoz]

Can you give link to watch online please?

:-D​

See this thread: http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=32232&page=22

Niji works pretty well. (you have to download it and look for NHK broadcast)

[Asashosakari]

Doitsuyama has awarded Yoshikaze the kinboshi on his database...so that settles it, I guess!

Really?

Might be last basho you are seeing.

Hmmm! I saw it earlier...maybe it was automatically awarded but later removed by Doitsuyama manually. Either that or I've lost my marbles!

No, it was definitely there. And the Kyokai has now reduced his career kinboshi total from 2 back to 1 as well.

[Ack!]

Kyokutenho marches on, getting his scorep (4-0) look like his age (40).

What a story!

Alex Jones says Kyokutenho looked so bad last tournament that he must have been sandbagging to gain easier matchups to set up this birthday run...

[Orion]

Kakuryu really proved himself with that win over Terunofuji from some absolutely terrible positions.

Alex Jones says Mongolian rikishi always lose the first bout against their senpai.

Who?

Orion

[luispereira]

http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20140918p2g00m0sp077000c.html

Harumafuji pulled out after sustaining an injury in his first defeat of the meet at the hands of Yoshikaze on Wednesday.

He suffered a fractured right eye socket after clashing with Yoshikaze during the loss in which he was disqualified for pulling his opponent's hair.

A decision has yet to be made as to whether Harumafuji will require surgery, which would leave him needing three months to recover. The injury would take a month to heal without an operation.

[Asashosakari]

Just to get the jinx in early, longest winning streaks to open a makuuchi career, modern era (wins/rikishi/basho/final record/career-high rank):

11 Taiho 1960.01 12-3 Y

10 Chiyonoyama 1945.11 10-0 Y [see note below]

9 Sadanoumi 1980.11 11-4 K

9 Kaisei 2011.05 10-5 M1*

8 Tsunenoyama 1949.05 11-4 M2

8 Washuyama 1973.05 11-4 S

7 Matsunosato 1939.05 12-3 M3

7 Itsutsuumi 1944.05 8-2 K

7 Takanonami 1991.11 8-7 O

6 Tenryu 1928.05 9-2 S

6 Toyoshima 1941.05 11-4 S

6 Takatoriki 1990.09 11-4 S

+ 13 more rikishi who started 5-0 (plus Ichinojo now, of course).

Edit: Heh, I'm so predictable - same post back when Kaisei had his run. And as somebody pointed out back then, Chiyonoyama actually won the first 3 bouts of his next tournament as well, for 13 total.

Edited September 18, 2014 by Asashosakari

[Ack!]

http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20140918p2g00m0sp077000c.html

Harumafuji pulled out after sustaining an injury in his first defeat of the meet at the hands of Yoshikaze on Wednesday.

He suffered a fractured right eye socket after clashing with Yoshikaze during the loss in which he was disqualified for pulling his opponent's hair.

A decision has yet to be made as to whether Harumafuji will require surgery, which would leave him needing three months to recover. The injury would take a month to heal without an operation.

Looking at the replay, I still haven't seen the blow that would have caused this severe of an injury. Hoping for a good recovery!

[dingo]

I remember writing a post last basho asking if Kyokutenho's time is up. I guess I have my answer now!

Something that's bothering me this time is that while most everyone in makuuchi is doing exiting sumo, the upper ranks, especially the yokozunae seem to be doing pull after pull every day. I know they're expected to win a lot but come on...

[torquato]

Harumafuji was Kyujo and Osunaarashi got a fusen win. The bout was scheduled to be the penultimate bout of the day. However they changed the bout order and postponed the Hakuho bout to follow this fusen bout. Why?

[Torideyama]

http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20140918p2g00m0sp077000c.html

Harumafuji pulled out after sustaining an injury in his first defeat of the meet at the hands of Yoshikaze on Wednesday.

He suffered a fractured right eye socket after clashing with Yoshikaze during the loss in which he was disqualified for pulling his opponent's hair.

A decision has yet to be made as to whether Harumafuji will require surgery, which would leave him needing three months to recover. The injury would take a month to heal without an operation.

Looking at the replay, I still haven't seen the blow that would have caused this severe of an injury. Hoping for a good recovery!

If you will look closely at the replay, it happens immediately at the tachi-ai. Yoshikaze and Harumafuji crack heads and that apparently is when the injury occured.

Edited September 18, 2014 by Torideyama

[Torideyama]

Doitsuyama has awarded Yoshikaze the kinboshi on his database...so that settles it, I guess!

Really?

Might be last basho you are seeing.

Hmmm! I saw it earlier...maybe it was automatically awarded but later removed by Doitsuyama manually. Either that or I've lost my marbles!

No, it was definitely there. And the Kyokai has now reduced his career kinboshi total from 2 back to 1 as well.

OK, so if Yoshikaze doesn't get a kinboshi for winning by forfeit, then I am assuming that Oosunarashi doesn't get one either for winning by fusen. Right?

[CT3*]

Correct

[Torideyama]

Harumafuji was Kyujo and Osunaarashi got a fusen win. The bout was scheduled to be the penultimate bout of the day. However they changed the bout order and postponed the Hakuho bout to follow this fusen bout. Why?

In all the years I have watched sumo, I have never seen the day end with a fusen. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but I would be guessing that this is the reason for the adjustment.

[wanderer]

And what about Terunofuji?

He's the biggest hope imho

Terunofuji will not go beyond sekiwake.

Why not ? In about 2 to 3 years from now, most from Hakuho, Harumafuji, Kakuryu, Kotoshogiku, Takekaze, Toyonoshima, Yoshikaze, Toyohibiki, Aminishiki, Shohozan, Tamawashi, Kitataiki, Okinoumi, Tokitenku and perhaps also Kyokutenho ;-) will be gone. I don't see too many who would surpass him. Ichinojo probably, Osunaarashi & Chiyootori maybe, but don't see many more to keep him from at least an Ozeki rank. Upcoming Abiko (who's on a 22-1 record) is 4 months older and both Shodai & Shiba (15-1 each) a month older & younger.

Look at bandages he is wearing. That is not good. He needs pretty injury free body to reach Ozeki, and stay there to advance further. Almost all ozeki that I remember could have made to Yokozuna if there was no nagging injuries to them. Kaio, Chiotaikai, Tochiazuma, Kotooshu, Baruto. It is the knee that is stupid here.

[Fay]

And what about Terunofuji?

He's the biggest hope imho

Terunofuji will not go beyond sekiwake.

Why not ? In about 2 to 3 years from now, most from Hakuho, Harumafuji, Kakuryu, Kotoshogiku, Takekaze, Toyonoshima, Yoshikaze, Toyohibiki, Aminishiki, Shohozan, Tamawashi, Kitataiki, Okinoumi, Tokitenku and perhaps also Kyokutenho ;-) will be gone. I don't see too many who would surpass him. Ichinojo probably, Osunaarashi & Chiyootori maybe, but don't see many more to keep him from at least an Ozeki rank. Upcoming Abiko (who's on a 22-1 record) is 4 months older and both Shodai & Shiba (15-1 each) a month older & younger.

Look at bandages he is wearing. That is not good. He needs pretty injury free body to reach Ozeki, and stay there to advance further. Almost all ozeki that I remember could have made to Yokozuna if there was no nagging injuries to them. Kaio, Chiotaikai, Tochiazuma, Kotooshu, Baruto. It is the knee that is stupid here.

I bet he will.