Aki 2014 Basho Comments

[evilwaldo]

If Ichinojo finishes with 12 or 13 wins where can we expect to see him next basho? Are we looking at M1 for a ranking? It will certainly make the next basho even more interesting when he faces the higher ranked opponents on a regular basis.

He has solid technique. I am amazed at his quick rise through the ranks.

[bettega]

If Ichinojo finishes with 12 or 13 wins where can we expect to see him next basho? Are we looking at M1 for a ranking? It will certainly make the next basho even more interesting when he faces the higher ranked opponents on a regular basis.

Somewhere from M3 to K, from the Query Results with 12 wins. In 1 case go to M3, 3 goes to M2, 4 goes to M1 e 2 to K

The only case with 13 wins from M10 goes directly to K

Edited September 25, 2014 by bettega

[yorikiried by fate]

Given the likely promotion situation after the basho, he will end up Komusubi, I guess.

Anyway, in order to protect the establishment from further surprises, he will be Komusubi-under-constraints:

[Gurowake]

If Ichinojo finishes with 12 or 13 wins where can we expect to see him next basho? Are we looking at M1 for a ranking? It will certainly make the next basho even more interesting when he faces the higher ranked opponents on a regular basis.

He has solid technique. I am amazed at his quick rise through the ranks.

Where he ends up depends a lot on how others finish. It might end up being good enough for Sekiwake, it might not be good enough for Komusubi. They are very reluctant to make extra Komusubi slots (see Ikioi 2 basho ago), so he may be the one who doesn't get one if Takekaze manages at least 2 more wins and there's 3 other good sanyaku candidates.

[Hakuyobaku]

Amuru 11th straight KK. If you disregard basho absences this is 21st straight, dating back to 2009. 5 years without a MK for a non yokozuna, probably a record?

[ALAKTORN]

^His absences made him fall far down the ranks so you can’t really count that as continued kachikoshi. Look at Tochinoshin… he’s been absent and now is destroying everyone in Jūryō.

Also I’d guess there are other rikishi that have done that, probably in the san’yaku ranks. I don’t know how to query this, though.

Edited September 26, 2014 by ALAKTORN

[Asojima]

WOW!! They are matching Ichinojo up with Hakuho on Day 14!!

[Gurowake]

I was just fooling around on the Kyokai site and noticed the torikumi up already (wasn't expecting it for another 45 minutes); I'm totally not surprised by that choice of match given the past few days' matches.

Also: Tochinoshin vs. Okinoumi!

Edited September 26, 2014 by Gurowake

[Morty]

WOW!! They are matching Ichinojo up with Hakuho on Day 14!!

Despite Ichinojo's form so far this basho, I entirely expect him to get schooled by Hakuho

[Gurowake]

I half-expect Tochinoshin vs. Ichinojo Day 15.

[Asashosakari]

I half-expect Tochinoshin vs. Ichinojo Day 15.

I knew it was a mistake not to promote him...

[Kintamayama]

I half-expect Tochinoshin vs. Ichinojo Day 15.

I knew it was a mistake not to promote him...

I'm pretty sure after everything is said and done, Tochinoshin is pretty happy with the additional yusho money envelope, probably his last ever.

[Kintamayama]

First time ever that a shin-newmaku gets back to back Yokozunae.

[inhashi]

Kyokutenho kachikoshi!!! (Clapping wildly...)

[Doitsuyama]

I half-expect Tochinoshin vs. Ichinojo Day 15.

I knew it was a mistake not to promote him...

I'm pretty sure after everything is said and done, Tochinoshin is pretty happy with the additional yusho money envelope, probably his last ever.

He had a good chance for a sansho in makuuchi in this form, no? It's more prestigious I think and it's the same 200 man yen for both.

[luispereira]

Goeido!!!

[luispereira]

Ichinojo!!! aha...what a basho...:D

[Kuroyama]

I may have a bit of trouble sleeping now. That. Was an exciting day.

Edited September 26, 2014 by Kuroyama

[Propmanoz]

Ichinojo, what a cheeky way to do it!! (Again! Identical hatakikomi win to his one against Kisenosato)

Edited September 26, 2014 by Propmanoz

[Senkoho]

this guy just doesn't care.

[Tsubame]

What's the problem? Why should he dare a "normal" fight with someone who has much more experience and technical knowledge?! Especially when it is about for a possible yusho.

And one the other side, for a successful henka, you always need TWO rikishi. A good rikishi does not storm blind forward. And you can expect from a yokozuna to be good, or aren't you?!

edit:

Can someone answer this question: How often was Hakuho beaten by a henka?

Edited September 26, 2014 by Tsubame

[Senkoho]

And one the other side, for a successful henka, you always need TWO rikishi. A good rikishi does not storm blind forward. And you can expect from a yokozuna to be good, or aren't you?!

Absolutely!

[Propmanoz]

What's the problem? Why should he dare a "normal" fight with someone who has much more experience and technical knowledge?! Especially when it is about for a possible yusho.

And one the other side, for a successful henka, you always need TWO rikishi. A good rikishi does not storm blind forward. And you can expect from a yokozuna to be good, or aren't you?!

edit:

Can someone answer this question: How often was Hakuho beaten by a henka?

No problem I reckon. It's simply a very bold strategy to take in your first bout against an Ozeki and a Yokozuna respectively. It shows confidence and daring (and possibly some very cunning strategy).

I would doubt he'll try it again with Hakuho, but who knows?

On another note: I would postulate Ichinojo is probably a shoe-in for the Kanto-sho and the Shukun-sho, but would have no idea about whether he would be considered for the Gino-sho given his kimarite.... thoughts?

Edited September 26, 2014 by Propmanoz

[Senkoho]

And now for something completely different:

Wakakoyu is not on tomorrow's torikumi. Do you think he's calling it quits?

[Doitsuyama]

And now for something completely different:

Wakakoyu is not on tomorrow's torikumi. Do you think he's calling it quits?

I wanted to ask the same. A sekitori not being on the next-day torikumi despite a non-fusen loss is very rare and pretty much only possible for low juryo who instantly notify their absence in time to correct the torikumi before publishing. Reasons usually are injury or intai and falling to make-koshi at J14w means demotion to makushita. He is only 30 years old but maybe he saw an open kabu?