Aki 13 Comments

[Akinomaki]

I still think that the torikumi-makers were sure that Endo would win and that this influenced their decision of pairing him with Tochiozan.

Then you must be believing that the shimpan crew is either too stupid for words or completely brainwashed by the Endo hype. This type of pre-scheduling (overperforming maegashira against lower sanyaku or even ozeki) "goes wrong" all the time in the bout that takes place before it, no matter how good the maegashira in question has looked in his previous bouts. I'm pretty astonished that you believe they're so immune to learning from experience.

I do indeed think they are affected by the Endo hype, up to totally unlearning all disregarding all previous experience.

Edited September 27, 2013 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki]

Shohozan (bout with Endo on day 14): “I wanted to do that. I have evil looks, it perfectly fits for “The villain against the hero”. I am announcing that I will go with a thrust-bombardment from both arms (morote-tsuki).”

(not much difference if a sekiwake or a m1 for a new-makuuchi – too much in any case).

[Kintamayama]

Guess the reporter assumed everyone knew "the" Yokozuna referred to here. Or does he have any inside knowledge or a crystal ball?

Yokozuna is plural and singular. Rikishi, Oyakata, shinpan, yobidashi, etc.. etc.. -all plural and singular. Yokozunae is not a word-it's made up. Yokozunas will work, but so does Yokozuna.

Edited September 27, 2013 by Kintamayama

[Masumasumasu]

The NHK Broadcast with its 300 cameras doesn't have a reverse angle? What Otokonoyama posted was exactly the same angle as in the feed. No clear reverse angle video?

Are you calling into question Kintanofuji's opinion? ;-)

I only believe my eyes and still find it unbelievable there is no reverse angle shot.. I call into question my own opinions on a daily basis.

I still smell a PR rat.

It's a non-issue, babe.

[Ajisen]

Guess the reporter assumed everyone knew "the" Yokozuna referred to here. Or does he have any inside knowledge or a crystal ball?

Yokozuna is plural and singular. Rikishi, Oyakata, shinpan, yobidashi, etc.. etc.. -all plural and singular. Yokozunae is not a word-it's made up. Yokozunas will work, but so does Yokozuna.

Thanks for clearing that up kitamayama.

Guess I was getting so paranoid about YDC's rumblings and grumblings, I assumed it was another dig at my favourite Rikishi.

Edited September 27, 2013 by Ajisen

[Kintamayama]

It's a non-issue, babe.

On the contrary-it's a big issue. Still having difficulties differentiating? I'll explain. Again. I'm patient and I have the time. It's an issue when the press/rikishi talk about an issue. Quite a bit, actually. It's a non-issue when we talk about an issue here. Exclusively here. No one else, just us. Then, it's a non issue.

Babe?

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[Doitsuyama]

It's a non-issue, babe.

On the contrary-it's a big issue. Still having difficulties differentiating? I'll explain. Again. I'm patient and I have the time. It's an issue when the press/rikishi talk about an issue. Quite a bit, actually. It's a non-issue when we talk about an issue here. Exclusively here. No one else, just us. Then, it's a non issue.

Babe?

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But - did the press and rikishi talk a lot about Endo's tori-naoshi? I actually am under the impression that only we are talking about it... which makes a non-issue by your definition. The "rikishi talk" in the other thread didn't mention it at all, no reverse angle shots etc.

[Yubinhaad]

Former yumitori-shiki performer Minanosato has retired. He received a bouquet of flowers in the hanamichi following his Day 13 bout, and will have his danpatsu-shiki at Takasago-beya's post-basho party on senshuraku. Minanosato twirled the bow between 2007 Natsu and 2010 Haru, a total of 270 performances.

[Kintamayama]

It's a non-issue, babe.

On the contrary-it's a big issue. Still having difficulties differentiating? I'll explain. Again. I'm patient and I have the time. It's an issue when the press/rikishi talk about an issue. Quite a bit, actually. It's a non-issue when we talk about an issue here. Exclusively here. No one else, just us. Then, it's a non issue.

Babe?

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But - did the press and rikishi talk a lot about Endo's tori-naoshi? I actually am under the impression that only we are talking about it... which makes a non-issue by your definition. The "rikishi talk" in the other thread didn't mention it at all, no reverse angle shots etc.

Yes, the press talked about it a lot. Even today, the online papers were discussing it and asking Tokushouryuu about it. rikishi talk is not any sort of parameter, as the rikishi wouldn't be talking about it except for those involved, who did talk about it -Endou admitted he thought he lost (at least three headlines) and Tokushouryuu was saying he was convinced he won. In any case, it is yesterday's news, but there was a lot of talk about it yesterday, including many photos,( except, mysteriously, from the right angle- not one photo or piece of video? Really??). Even the real papers made a big issue out of it I am told. It's an issue, believe me. TV commentators on NHK spoke about it at length, as opposed to other issued dragged on and on here and only here.

[Bugman]

I remember getting a bit tired of Kaio because of all the fuss made around him, i don't think i'l end up feeling the same way about Endo though because i really like his style of Sumo, for me Kisenosato still looks like the best chance of a Japanese Yokozuna though, and by a lot.

[Doitsuyama]

I remember getting a bit tired of Kaio because of all the fuss made around him, i don't think i'l end up feeling the same way about Endo though because i really like his style of Sumo, for me Kisenosato still looks like the best chance of a Japanese Yokozuna though, and by a lot.

Well, I agree Kaio's style was too survival oriented in the last years. But I guess you haven't seen a lot of him from 1995 to 2005?

[Ack!]

Homasho was on fire earlier in the tournament, and now 3 straight losses. Has anyone noticed any signs of injury?

I must say that this has been an extremely entertaining basho so far!

Edited September 27, 2013 by Ack!

[shumitto]

Homasho was on fire earlier in the tournament, and now 3 straight losses. Has anyone noticed any signs of injury?

I must say that this has been an extremely entertaining basho so far!

Some taping around the right shoulder that has appeared in the last few days.

Kyokutenho has achieved the first kachi-koshi in Makuuchi for a 39-year-old since Takamiyama (1983.11), which was by the way the last in career for the American-born rikishi.

Should Wakanosato decide to go on, I think he will suffer the same fate as Miyabiyama.

[Masumasumasu]

Endo kyujo.

[Ack!]

Homasho was on fire earlier in the tournament, and now 3 straight losses. Has anyone noticed any signs of injury?

I must say that this has been an extremely entertaining basho so far!

Some taping around the right shoulder that has appeared in the last few days.

Kyokutenho has achieved the first kachi-koshi in Makuuchi for a 39-year-old since Takamiyama (1983.11), which was by the way the last in career for the American-born rikishi.

Should Wakanosato decide to go on, I think he will suffer the same fate as Miyabiyama.

Regarding Kyokutenho, I have to admire anyone who can sumo at that level when he is nearly as old as I am!

Edited September 28, 2013 by Ack!

[Umigame]

Endo kyujo.

Well that really puts a damper on things.

He hurt his left ankle in the Tokushoryu bout.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20130928/k10014881301000.html

[Akinomaki]

Day 13: with 9091 spectators a full house

Today the spectators were quite annoyed when the Endo kyujo was announced with the fusensho for Shohozan.

Since I haven't seen it yet: Musashikuni this basho - daily often reports about Musashigawa-beya


kk against Uno on day 12

[Bugman]

I remember getting a bit tired of Kaio because of all the fuss made around him, i don't think i'l end up feeling the same way about Endo though because i really like his style of Sumo, for me Kisenosato still looks like the best chance of a Japanese Yokozuna though, and by a lot.

Well, I agree Kaio's style was too survival oriented in the last years. But I guess you haven't seen a lot of him from 1995 to 2005?

You're right i didn't see him in those years, i only caught the last bit of his career as i started watching Sumo in 2011, i did see some of his older bouts on youtube and he had a lethal Kotenage.

I just found this bout from 1996:

Edited September 28, 2013 by Bugman

[Masumasumasu]

稀勢の里がんばれ

[Bugman]

Wow great drama going on with the Hak Kise match.

Edit* Hak wins, wow that was really exciting. :)

Edited September 28, 2013 by Bugman

[Akinomaki]

I expected another present to the other hype rikishi, but they avoided that – Hakuho wasn't disqualified for grabbing the topknot and gets the yusho.

[kuroimori]

I expected another present to the other hype rikishi, but they avoided that – Hakuho wasn't disqualified for grabbing the topknot and gets the yusho.

and Hak was not amused about that very late mono-ii, he already got 'dem precious envelopes handed to him

[Akinomaki]

Harumafuji is about to get the final warning by the YDC after the basho.

Hochi reports he was humming in the preparation room after the loss yesterday, showing no sign of reflecting in remorse about his sumo, not having left any dignity of a yokozuna, seeming to have no sense of the danger of getting sacked, just saying: “I will endeavor more.”

Now he has 10 – when he wins convincingly against Hakuho tomorrow (I'm sure he will), he just will finish one short of the YDC quota of 12 – a warning has to come, else the YDC loses any credibility, with empty words only. But it doesn't have to be the final one – unless he gets wiped away by Hakuho.

[Bugman]

Harumafuji is about to get the final warning by the YDC after the basho.

Hochi reports he was humming in the preparation room after the loss yesterday, showing no sign of reflecting in remorse about his sumo, not having left any dignity of a yokozuna, seeming to have no sense of the danger of getting sacked, just saying: “I will endeavor more.”

Now he has 10 – when he wins convincingly against Hakuho tomorrow (I'm sure he will), he just will finish one short of the YDC quota of 12 – a warning has to come, else the YDC loses any credibility, with empty words only. But it doesn't have to be the final one – unless he gets wiped away by Hakuho.

I'm no Harumafuji fan as some might know but this seems like bullying to me, so he was humming, maybe humming was comforting to him after a loss, he won the Yusho's needed to become a Yokozuna already so that's in the past, he made it there, ever since i understood that Hak is a bizarre phenomenon the rank of Yokozuna changed for me in terms of what i expect to see, i think of Yokozuna now as little more than an Ozeki that did very well at a point in their career and got the promotion, after that if they do Ozeki Sumo i'm fine with that, ten wins sounds decent to me if not great, they should leave the guy alone.

Edited September 28, 2013 by Bugman

[ALAKTORN]

Was such a late mono-ii a first? I’ve never seen it happen after the win was fully awarded.