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[Asashosakari]

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Chiyomaru (Kokonoe-beya)
Wakamisho Terunofuji 照ノ富士 (Isegahama-beya)

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Akiseyama (Kise-beya)
Chiyoo (Kokonoe-beya)
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[krindel]

Wakamisho Terunofuji 照ノ富士 (Isegahama-beya)

And I think with that shikona change, Magaki-beya is officially RIP...

Congrats to all the guys though :-)

Edit: And before someone mentions it, I know Wakaoba still has a Magaki-style shikona, but Wakamisho was the only really visible reminder of that heya...

Edited July 24, 2013 by krindel

[Akinomaki]

At last one more Fuji – but that's the norm in Isegahama-beya.
Terunofuji with oyakata. Apart from the oyakata's Asahifuji (63^rd yok.) for the last part, the shikona is a taken from 38^th yokozuna Terukuni of Isegahama-beya. Ise-oyakata: “I want him to reach yokozuna, for that I gave him this shikona.”

[Akinomaki]

Chiyomaru with oyakata and younger brother Chiyootori, whose tsukebito he was.
His ideal for a rikshi is Chiyotaikai, Sanoyama-oyakata, who also gave him his shikona for his round (maru) figure.

[kuroimori]

At last one more Fuji – but that's the norm in Isegahama-beya.

Terunofuji with oyakata. Apart from the oyakata's Asahifuji (63^rd yok.) for the last part, the shikona is a taken from 38^th yokozuna Terukuni of Isegahama-beya. Ise-oyakata: “I want him to reach yokozuna, for that I gave him this shikona.”

It just struck me that Isegahama-oyakata has quite some resemblance with

Matthias Brandt

(for the non-German forum members: he is a German actor and son of former chancellor Willy Brandt)

[shumitto]

It just struck me that Isegahama-oyakata has quite some resemblance with

Matthias Brandt

(for the non-German forum members: he is a German actor and son of former chancellor Willy Brandt)

Everyone on this forum is German these days. :-P

[Naganoyama]

I wonder whether it can be much fun being tsukebito to one's brother. I suppose that it depends on the brother.

[krindel]

I wonder whether it can be much fun being tsukebito to one's brother. I suppose that it depends on the brother.

True... but I would guess it was a "favorable" placement for him.

[Asashosakari]

Chiyomaru's face is looking very Orora-ish in those pics.

[Andreas21]

I wonder whether it can be much fun being tsukebito to one's brother.

... especially YOUNGER brother ! :-S

[Akinomaki]

I wonder whether it can be much fun being tsukebito to one's brother. I suppose that it depends on the brother.

True... but I would guess it was a "favorable" placement for him.

Kokonoe himself had ordered this, perhaps to create another incentive for him: to escape that potentially humiliating situation.

[ronnie]

I'm dyeing of curiosity to know why those Oyakata's aren't showing any signs of greying :-P

[Koorifuu]

Chiyomaru looks twice as chubby as he did back to this photo.

[Fay]

Chiyomaru looks twice as chubby as he did back to this photo.

i remember quite well the day when I made the pic during Natsu Basho, Chiyomaru's name was Kinoshita then and during 2 hours of keiko he was standing there, very shy and a bit lost and didn't know what to do ... and nobody told him anything. I always supported him a bit, he is a very nice young man as is his brother Chiyootori.

[Akinomaki]

Terunofuji









the sekitori brothers













Return juryo Chiyoo visiting his old high school in Uruma, Okinawa

[Koorifuu]

Hopefully after this accomplishment he'll be called off the tsukebito role.

Aaaand with Akiseyama back, plus Chiyomaru's debut, juryo just got a lot flabbier.

[Akinomaki]

Kokonoe himself had ordered this

Well that's just standard procedure. The shisho decides who will be tsukebito in every heya.

Order who is to be one is self-evident, but does he also order alone who is to serve who ?

Doesn't the sekitori have a say with that and can express preferences about who he wants to have as tsukebito and who not ?

[p2501]

Kokonoe himself had ordered this

Well that's just standard procedure. The shisho decides who will be tsukebito in every heya.

Order who is to be one is self-evident, but does he also order alone who is to serve who ?

Doesn't the sekitori have a say with that and can express preferences about who he wants to have as tsukebito and who not ?

That sounds like a good recipe for bad blood.

[krindel]

Order who is to be one is self-evident, but does he also order alone who is to serve who ?

Doesn't the sekitori have a say with that and can express preferences about who he wants to have as tsukebito and who not ?

Self evident? I dunno. There are a lot of things that need to be taken into consideration. A tsukebito has many duties and if the sekitori is young or foreign there are things he won't know and will rely on the tsukebito to advise him on or help him with.

New sekitori aren't likely to be making any preferences known to a shisho for obvious reasons.

I agree with Nishinoshima on this... A good shisho needs to match the tsukebito to what he perceives to be the needs of the new sekitori, not necessarily who he likes. What does he need more? A servant? A confidant? A father figure? Someone to laugh with? Someone to keep an eye on him in case he gets into trouble?

I think that is more important in choosing who is to be whose tsukebito than the personal preference of the sekitori. After all, as an example, you wouldn't want to match the heya's two heaviest drinkers in a sekitori-tsukebito combination, would you? :-)

[Akinomaki]

Order who is to be one is self-evident, but does he also order alone who is to serve who ?

Doesn't the sekitori have a say with that and can express preferences about who he wants to have as tsukebito and who not ?

Self evident? I dunno. There are a lot of things that need to be taken into consideration. A tsukebito has many duties and if the sekitori is young or foreign there are things he won't know and will rely on the tsukebito to advise him on or help him with.

New sekitori aren't likely to be making any preferences known to a shisho for obvious reasons.

Indeed, a new sekitori should rely on the oyakata for this. I can't find a description of how many tsukebito are usual for each rank with search (still only occasionally my friend). A yokozuna with around 9, a juryo with 1, the oyakata(s), the high ranked gyoji ?

[Akinomaki]

I can't find a description of how many tsukebito are usual for each rank with search (still only occasionally my friend). A yokozuna with around 9, a juryo with 1, the oyakata(s), the high ranked gyoji ?

Found with a different approach.

Thanks for the info. I must say the tidbit about Fujimoto and Kotoshogiku intrigues me. A stable as big as Sadogatake has to occasionally "borrow" tsukebitos? I realize they have several sekitori but I guess I'm a little unclear on the subject, how many do each sekitori get? I assume it's according to rank (of course we all know about assume LOL).

According to Grand Sumo Fully Illustrated, juryo sekitori get one or two, makuuchi sekitori get two to five, and yokozuna may have ten or more.

[p2501]

I can't find a description of how many tsukebito are usual for each rank with search (still only occasionally my friend). A yokozuna with around 9, a juryo with 1, the oyakata(s), the high ranked gyoji ?

Found with a different approach.

Thanks for the info. I must say the tidbit about Fujimoto and Kotoshogiku intrigues me. A stable as big as Sadogatake has to occasionally "borrow" tsukebitos? I realize they have several sekitori but I guess I'm a little unclear on the subject, how many do each sekitori get? I assume it's according to rank (of course we all know about assume LOL).

According to Grand Sumo Fully Illustrated, juryo sekitori get one or two, makuuchi sekitori get two to five, and yokozuna may have ten or more.

Is that 10+ for yokozuna just for scaling purposes? I mean what do you need 10+ people for?

[Naganoyama]

To make you look important, of course. ;-)

[Orion]

To make you look important, of course. ;-)

How many tsukebito does it take to put on a yokozuna's tsuna? (rhetorical question)

Orion