Kyokuhagyo Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) According to http://engawa.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sumou/1369915073/282 (not necessarily a reliable source, but looks alright as it deviates completely from my guess, but Tochiouzan from Ke with 6-9 to M4w?). Scrap that, contradicts with the information of the Isagahama beya website saying Aminishiki is on M3w and Takarafuji on M7e: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/isegahama-beya/e/dcd96fcb8c23d63b4be2e20e1ffe6c9c The one from Yubinhaad's post is probably right: http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=31598&p=243263 Seems to match with this: http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q11109270701 Edited June 23, 2013 by Kyokuhagyo
Asashosakari Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) Considering that same poster added a juryo banzuke which includes Sagatsukasa, Kizenryu and Akiseyama, I would say it's bogus. Official news: Myogiryu S Goeido Shohozan K Tokitenku Takekaze M1 Takayasu M3 Aminishiki Takarafuji M7 M12 Kotoyuki Tamawashi M13 M14 Tamaasuka Tokushoryu M16 Edited June 23, 2013 by Asashosakari
Andonishiki Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 hmm, this jiji press article says, the new komusubi are Shohozan & Tokitenku, so either your source or jiji got it wrong. Normally jiji can be trusted, I guess... http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=spo_30&k=2013062400028
Yubinhaad Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Here's what I've got for Makuuchi, unconfirmed but it at least matches up with the Jiji stuff: Hakuho Y Harumafuji Kisenosato O Kotoshogiku Kakuryu O Kotooshu Myogiryu S Goeido Shohozan K Tokitenku Takekaze M1 Takayasu Tochiozan M2 Gagamaru Chiyotairyu M3 Aminishiki Kyokutenho M4 Fujiazuma Ikioi M5 Toyonoshima Baruto M6 Okinoumi Takarafuji M7 Yoshikaze Toyohibiki M8 Kitataiki Aoiyama M9 Sadanofuji Aran M10 Chiyonokuni Daido M11 Tochinoshin Kaisei M12 Kotoyuki Tamawashi M13 Jokoryu Masunoyama M14 Tamaasuka Wakanosato M15 Sokokurai Tokushoryu M16 Shotenro 1
Washuyama Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 It's just weird to see Baruto's name in the middle of the banzuke...
Kuroyama Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 It's just weird to see Baruto's name in the middle of the banzuke... If he's not too badly injured he should do spectacularly well there.
Yubinhaad Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Jiji confirms Makuuchi as above, and this is Juryo: Takanoiwa J1 Chiyootori Oiwato J2 Kyokushuho Azumaryu J3 Tochinowaka Kagamio J4 Nionoumi Homarefuji J5 Tenkaiho Sotairyu J6 Homasho Asahisho J7 Daikiho Asasekiryu J8 Satoyama Seiro J9 Osunaarashi Oniarashi J10 Tokushinho Tanzo J11 Takanoyama Tochihiryu J12 Wakakoyu Chiyoarashi J13 Endo Yoshiazuma J14 Kotomisen 1
Mukonoso Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Gah! Takanoyama is below newbie Osunaarashi. Not unexpected but disheartening for a Tak fan. Edited June 24, 2013 by Mukonoso
p2501 Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Gah! Takanoyama is below newbie Osunaarashi. Not unexpected but disheartening for a Tak fan. I'm looking forward to their bout!
Ayagawa Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Nobody surprised that Shohozan is Komusubi east? :-O Prefering him over Takekaze AND Tokutenku is... strange? cronyism/favoritism! But I told you: http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=29203&p=216103
Tikozan Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Sagatsukasa out, but Tochihiryu with only one win more stays at J12 (In a state of confusion...)
Pippooshu Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Considering that same poster added a juryo banzuke which includes Sagatsukasa, Kizenryu and Akiseyama, I would say it's bogus. Official news: Myogiryu S Goeido Shohozan K Tokitenku Takekaze M1 Takayasu M3 Aminishiki Takarafuji M7 M12 Kotoyuki Tamawashi M13 M14 Tamaasuka Tokushoryu M16 Strange Banzuke with Goeido Sekiwake again and Tokitenku like Komusubi...
Ayagawa Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Myogiryu S Goeido Shohozan K Tokitenku Takekaze M1 Takayasu Strange Banzuke with Goeido Sekiwake again and Tokitenku like Komusubi... strange comment... anything else than Goeido as Sekiwake and Tokitenku as Komusubi would be strange ;-) seems like I'm really the only one that sees Shohozan's position (Komusubi east) as a big scam
Asojima Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 ... I'm really the only one that sees Shohozan's position (Komusubi east) as a big scamI had him at M3e, but I normally view K thru M3 as a bit of a crapshoot, especially when some major promotions are needed to fill the slots.
Benevolance Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 After Myogiryu at M1, Shohozan was the highest ranked maegashira that got his kachikoshi. Behind him in the banzuke were Takayasu, also at 8-7 from M5, and Takekaze at 9-6 from M6. Do you promote Takekaze over Takayasu and Shohozan instead? Tokitenku's jump to komusubi from M8 surprises me more. He posted double digits, but one win was by fusensho. I guess all that matters is the final score, though.
krindel Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 After Myogiryu at M1, Shohozan was the highest ranked maegashira that got his kachikoshi. Behind him in the banzuke were Takayasu, also at 8-7 from M5, and Takekaze at 9-6 from M6. Do you promote Takekaze over Takayasu and Shohozan instead? Tokitenku's jump to komusubi from M8 surprises me more. He posted double digits, but one win was by fusensho. I guess all that matters is the final score, though. AFAIK, fusensho never count against the "winning" rikishi... After all, if he arrives at the dohyo and noone is waiting on the other side, what can he do? Scrounge up an opponent from the crowd? :-p 3
Koorifuu Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 I love how Shohozan's 10-5 K from M2 got him into K1w... But a 8-7 from M5 was worthy of a K1e promotion!
Asashosakari Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 After Myogiryu at M1, Shohozan was the highest ranked maegashira that got his kachikoshi.And he was the only one of the komusubi candidates who faced somebody above sekiwake. Maybe they decided to treat his record as a "really good" 8-7. (Then again, having to face Harumafuji was sort of equalized by getting to face Kotooshu...)
Benevolance Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 You're all just jealous of his magnificent tan.
Pippooshu Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 Myogiryu S Goeido Shohozan K Tokitenku Takekaze M1 Takayasu Strange Banzuke with Goeido Sekiwake again and Tokitenku like Komusubi... strange comment... anything else than Goeido as Sekiwake and Tokitenku as Komusubi would be strange ;-) seems like I'm really the only one that sees Shohozan's position (Komusubi east) as a big scam Why strange? I thought about Goeido in Make-Koshi fallen in Komusubi rank. And about Takayasu or Takekaze better than Tokitenku for a Sanyaku place...
Asashosakari Posted June 24, 2013 Posted June 24, 2013 And about Takayasu or Takekaze better than Tokitenku for a Sanyaku place...Why?
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