Games Bugs

[Fukurou]

8 hours ago, Jejima said:

I think the Osunaraashi vs Kyokushoryu is causing the automation problems for Bench Sumo....

It's certainly not been picked up in the day 6 scoring for Hoshitori.

 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Fukurou

[orandashoho]

SG Results Day 7 -- correct points, correct winners, totals are shown only up to and including Day 6.

[Fukurou]

23 hours ago, Fukurou said:

It's certainly not been picked up in the day 6 scoring for Hoshitori.

 

Day 6 scoring displayed on Hoshitori doesn't seem to have been adjusted to display the correct daily (and overall) scores (I think this is related to Kyokushoryu over Osunaarashi), but the overall score after day 7 does seem to be correct.  I guess it's fixed?

[Pandaazuma]

Sumo Game should be OK now.

The Bench line-ups for day 8 aren't there.  Happens sometimes for reasons arcane!

[Jejima]

2 hours ago, Pandaazuma said:

Sumo Game should be OK now.

The Bench line-ups for day 8 aren't there.  Happens sometimes for reasons arcane!

It's because (I think) Jakusotsu is away for the weekend....  Although I thought he had input the Makunouchi torikumi (at least) before he went away....

[Gurowake]

It's probably my "fault" for not getting the Juryo torikumi done before Jakusotsu left for the weekend, and it's not going to do results without the full torikumi.  Doitsuyama was requested to put my torikumi in instead, but he's probably too busy or hasn't noticed or it was sent to the wrong email address or something.

[Pandaazuma]

Database more than the games.  The results are currently not being updated as the bouts are decided.

[Achiyama]

Any news about the Database? 

 

[Jakusotsu]

Looks like the NSK messed with their site again. The buttons at http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi don't point to permalinks anymore but some javascript (how I hate it!!).

I fear we might be screwed for the rest of the basho because that could turn into a nightmare for the grabbers.

[Pandaazuma]

1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:

Looks like the NSK messed with their site again. The buttons at http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi don't point to permalinks anymore but some javascript (how I hate it!!).

I fear we might be screwed for the rest of the basho because that could turn into a nightmare for the grabbers.

I'm no technical guy, but are you saying we're going to have to manually enter results onto the database from now on?  Or is there a way for grabbers to read this script?

I'd better warn the Sumo Game guy as well.

This new site is a nightmare.  I have had real trouble with it on my phone...and it's just awfully designed.  And now this bullshit...

[Profomisakari]

On 16.9.2016 at 11:40, Profomisakari said:

I think, we have the same errors as two days ago.
Samiel, hilf!  (from the Opera "Freischütz")
Or better: Doitsuyama, Help!

Profomisakari

Now we have the same situation as Friday.
Help once more, Samiel!

Profo

 

[Jakusotsu]

This is a copy of what I just posted on the Bench Sumo ML:

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We had some minor hiccups recently, but this time we might be screwed for good.
 

The NSK page now switched their torikumi page from URL links to javascript, which seems to have busted Doitsuyama's results grabber. This primarily affects the SumoDB, which also feeds every game hosted on sumogames.de (apart from Golynohana's games, but his own grabber seems to be kaputt as well).
 

Only Doitsuyama can fix this, but he has been hard pressed for time recently, and this change is nothing to adapt quickly, I fear.
 

I don't want to paint things too black, but the affected games may be over this basho.
 

At least for Bench Sumo you can still get your entries in via these links:
http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/DailyEntry.aspx?D=10
http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/DailyEntry.aspx?D=11
http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/DailyEntry.aspx?D=12
http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/DailyEntry.aspx?D=13
http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/DailyEntry.aspx?D=14

http://benchsumo.sumogames.de/DailyEntry.aspx?D=15

[Pandaazuma]

Further tomorrow's torikumi can't be grabbed.

Looks like a complete disaster for the gaming community.  And also for Doitsuyama's database.

I will write to the site address and ask them to revert to their original style...they will probably ignore me, but it's worth a try.  Or perhaps @Susanoo could call them and speak to them in Japanese, explaining the situation.  It may be an easy thing for them to go back to the way it was...and if it is, it will be worth a try.

[Pandaazuma]

Just to add...if manual input is the only way, I'll be happy to volunteer to help out with that.  I'm sure others will chip in too...if we have to do a division each etc.

Anyway...let's see what the experts say.

[Jejima]

The torikumi for tomorrow....

This can be used to make Bench Sumo picks - using the links as mentioned above by Jakusotsu.

[Golynohana]

There were 3 query parameters used so far:
basho_id
day
kakuzuke (1-6 for divisions)

basho_id and day still work, for example day 10 from last basho:
http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi?day=10&basho_id=577

What doesn't work is the third parameter for division.
But that would be strange if 2 parameters work and the third one doesn't.
I think maybe they just changed the name of this parameter, I have tried with kakuzuke, kakuzuke_id, rank, ranking but unfortunately none of them seems to be working.

[Pandaazuma]

3 minutes ago, Golynohana said:

There were 3 query parameters used so far:
basho_id
day
kakuzuke (1-6 for divisions)

basho_id and day still work, for example day 10 from last basho:
http://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi?day=10&basho_id=577

What doesn't work is the third parameter for division.
But that would be strange if 2 parameters work and the third one doesn't.
I think maybe they just changed the name of this parameter, I have tried with kakuzuke, kakuzuke_id, rank, ranking but unfortunately none of them seems to be working.

 

So if we can find out what they changed the name to, it should be ok?

I (or Susanoo) could ask them, of course. Unless there is another way?

[Golynohana]

Just now, Pandaazuma said:

 

So if we can find out what they changed the name to, it should be ok?

I hope so.

[Golynohana]

Unfortunately it turns out to be more difficult. I can see data for given day and basho, but it is not to be found in the page source and that's what the grabber reads.

It's because the page loads first without the results and then they are loaded by AJAX on client side.

So even if we find the correct name for division parameter it still won't solve the problem.
What's worse even if I change my grabber to make AJAX calls to NSK site it's not guaranteed that I get back the results. Is depends what they do on server side.

 

[Pandaazuma]

Thanks, Golynohana.

Any suggestions...anyone? 

[Jakusotsu]

I *might* be able to update the existing Day 9 Torikumi in the database with the results, but I'd rather not lest I make things worse. Besides, entering the Day 10 Torikumi is a totally different matter.

[Randomitsuki]

Not much to add here, as I lack expertise in the technical matters. In any case, I would gladly take up the Panda's earlier suggestion: if I had access to a file where I enter, say, rikishi ID, wins or loss, and kimarite, as well as torikumi for the next day, I would take part. I could guarantee to do it on a daily basis, but I cannot guarantee to do it in a very timely fashion (i.e,, shortly after the bouts), Therefore I would not want to enter data for the highly game-relevant divisions (Makuuchi and Juryo). But I would volunteer for Makushita data, if this is needed. Makushita Game would be also happy about that... 

[Pandaazuma]

9 minutes ago, Randomitsuki said:

Not much to add here, as I lack expertise in the technical matters. In any case, I would gladly take up the Panda's earlier suggestion: if I had access to a file where I enter, say, rikishi ID, wins or loss, and kimarite, as well as torikumi for the next day, I would take part. I could guarantee to do it on a daily basis, but I cannot guarantee to do it in a very timely fashion (i.e,, shortly after the bouts), Therefore I would not want to enter data for the highly game-relevant divisions (Makuuchi and Juryo). But I would volunteer for Makushita data, if this is needed. Makushita Game would be also happy about that... 

If it comes to this, I would be able to do Juryo and Makuuchi (and Makushita jo'i perhaps) - i.e. the game-related ones in a timely manner. On most days I could do it immediately. On rare occasions it would be a little later. So Rando and others perhaps could do the lower divisions.

So feel free to let me know if you need me.

Edited September 19, 2016 by Pandaazuma

[Jakusotsu]

Sounds like a plan, but we need word from Doitsuyama first. I won't be tampering with the database without his consent.

[Asashosakari]

I'll offer myself for whatever volunteer work is needed, too. However, I suspect no matter how many of us do that, the bottleneck remains that the collected/formatted data needs to be injected into the database, and that's definitely a non-trivial task given the complexity of the data structures. (I assume that's what Jakusotsu is also getting at.)