hoshidango Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 (edited) Just to add some conflicting information I obtained for some stories behind retirement. In addition to his famous chronic foot joint problems, he developed irregular heart beat and had to be hospitalized for ten days. At one time "heart was actually stopping". The doctor warned his life is in danger if he continued to attend Sumo. Consequently he barely had any practise prior to basho and at two last matches he "did not feel any power left in his legs". Some report says he did have some Keiko after returning from hopital for one day with his juniors. And he told his wife "this(basho) might be it" prior to the tournament. There were some other stories on pneumonia or cold etc, but there is more consensus in irregular heartbeat story. For the honour of Nami. Edited May 12, 2004 by hoshidango
Zuikakuyama Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Really sad to hear this, but hardly unexpected. :-D
Fujisan Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Yes,definately not unexpected-Shame though! :'-( Best of kuck in retirement Nami! :-D
Kaikitsune Makoto Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 First comments by Nami: "I thought of intai when I was demoted from ozeki but I decided to carry on. Now I feel very satisfied with what I have accomplished. >crying< I want to raise rikishi with strong heart (tsuyoi kokoro) by being a supportive oyakata.
aderechelsea Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 i want to see what Takanohana will do know that his best rikishi is gone...... not the best heya to do keiko.I feel sorry for the lower ranked rikishi there. good decision though by Nami. It was getting painfull to see him in the dohyo, even though i have to admit he was never one of my favourites
Yoavoshimaru Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 I called it yesterday (I am not worthy...) He was one of my favorites, but I guess the time is up. Good luck in his post active rikishi years! I hope he finds a good oyakata situation.
Zuikakuyama Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 I felt really sad watching that interview. I believe his thought at being retired is that he felt "relieved". Lets hope Takanohana wont drive him away like Akinshima. . . but I dont have a good feeling watching Takanohana's demeanor at the interview.
Asashosakari Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Lets hope Takanohana wont drive him away like Akinshima. . . but I dont have a good feeling watching Takanohana's demeanor at the interview. Aki and Nami might make for a promising Oyakata duo if they could get a stable of their own, although with the way Takanohana has been acting, that would probably only happen as a result of a violent split from Futagoyama. (In so far as something like that would actually be possible in Ozumo...) Is there precedence for oyakata establishing their own heya over the objections of their former shisho?
Zentoryu Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Didn't Chiyonofuji (Kokonoe) have a bad split with Hokutoumi or something? Or am I remembering wrong. :-) (Laughing...)
Kashunowaka Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 I felt really sad watching that interview.I believe his thought at being retired is that he felt "relieved". Lets hope Takanohana wont drive him away like Akinshima. . . but I dont have a good feeling watching Takanohana's demeanor at the interview. In what way was Takanohana's demeanour alarming (asked by one who hasn't seen the interview in question)?
Sasanishiki Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 When does nami get his toshiyori name? Will he get Fujishima do you think? This would allow Takanohana to let Aki take the other name (which escapes me just at the moment)
Yubiquitoyama Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 (edited) When does nami get his toshiyori name? Will he get Fujishima do you think? This would allow Takanohana to let Aki take the other name (which escapes me just at the moment) The general theory is that he will be Otowayama. It should become clear rather quickly though. Aki's situation is rather out of hand right now, but I assume he will eventually become Sendagawa and work in some other stable than Takanohana-beya. Edited May 11, 2004 by Yubiquitoyama
Kintamayama Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 The general theory is that he will be Otowayama. It should become clear rather quickly though. It is officially decided that he will take the name of Otowayama and be an affiliated Oyakata at Takanohana-beya. Japanese article: http://www.nikkansports.com/ns/sports/sumo...40511-0026.html
Yubiquitoyama Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 (edited) Lets hope Takanohana wont drive him away like Akinshima. . . Edited May 11, 2004 by Yubiquitoyama
Sasanishiki Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Flying blind here, but isn't one of the heya outside of the usual ichimon. Wouldn't that be some case of not having approval of shisho? Please enlighten me knowledgeable ones
Yubiquitoyama Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 Flying blind here, but isn't one of the heya outside of the usual ichimon. Wouldn't that be some case of not having approval of shisho?Please enlighten me knowledgeable ones I don't know too much about it, but it had to do with the riji elections (board of directors), where Maenoyama (Takadagawa-oyakata) disputed the choice of candidate for Takasago-ichimon and became an independent candidate (who also managed to get elected). This resulted in him being kicked out of the ichimon , and that's where it stands today, although Takadagawa is no longer part of the rijikai.
Asashosakari Posted May 11, 2004 Posted May 11, 2004 I think it has happened quite a few times, but one I could immediately find something about was the establishment of the current Oshiogawa-beya [snip] Thank you very much! (Blinking...)
hoshidango Posted May 12, 2004 Author Posted May 12, 2004 Some information on official reason for his quitting added at the top. FYI
Kashunowaka Posted May 12, 2004 Posted May 12, 2004 Some information on official reason for his quitting added at the top. FYI Don't do that! That is: do add more information, it is highly appreciated. But please don't edit whole topics and posts like that. It gets really confusing. (Blinking...) Better to add info as new posts, or make a new topic. Correcting minor errors and typos is an exception of course. :-P
Taka Posted May 12, 2004 Posted May 12, 2004 I felt really sad watching that interview.I believe his thought at being retired is that he felt "relieved". Lets hope Takanohana wont drive him away like Akinshima. . .
hoshidango Posted May 13, 2004 Author Posted May 13, 2004 Some information on official reason for his quitting added at the top. FYI Don't do that! That is: do add more information, it is highly appreciated. But please don't edit whole topics and posts like that. It gets really confusing. :-( Better to add info as new posts, or make a new topic. Correcting minor errors and typos is an exception of course. :-/ Sorry. OK.
Yoavoshimaru Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 Yubiquitoyama-zeki is just a fountain of knowledge :-/ :-(
Zuikakuyama Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 I felt really sad watching that interview.I believe his thought at being retired is that he felt "relieved". Lets hope Takanohana wont drive him away like Akinshima. . .
Yubiquitoyama Posted May 13, 2004 Posted May 13, 2004 I felt really sad watching that interview.I believe his thought at being retired is that he felt "relieved". Lets hope Takanohana wont drive him away like Akinshima. . . but I dont have a good feeling watching Takanohana's demeanor at the interview. In what way was Takanohana's demeanour alarming (asked by one who hasn't seen the interview in question)? He just looked bored during the interview, and it didn't look as though 'nami consulted him for his decision to retire or that they were particularly close. I think he also said that 'nami was doing poor sumo and there was no point in going on. One question arising is whether Takanonami really meant Takanohana when he said he had consulted with his shisho... It would surprise me little if it was Futagoyama who did that job and Takanohana was more or less notified after the fact... :-(
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