Kintamayama Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) Kakizoe is ranked west Makushita one on the new non-Banzuke. He has fallen from Juryo, lost his 1,030,000 yen salary and will have to make do with 150,000 yen for two months to maintain his family of a wife and two kids, 3 years old and 9 months old. His fall is even more difficult, as he was in sanyaku before. "I really want to get back up there, but it is impossible now. When will the next basho be held?? These are very hard times..," he lamented. He is also a mess physically. Both knees, lower back, shoulder- enough for a lifetime. "My body is in shambles and I have become weaker," he admits. He was looking forward to fighting his way back to the top, but he feels he's wrongfully paying for others' wrongdoings. All he can do is take advantage of the forced hiatus and try to rehabilitate his body the best he can, but he can't hide his anger and frustration. He had even considered retiring, but eventually decided against it after the people close to him talked him out of it. "I have nowhere to vent my frustrations., but ever since I joined this world of sumo I was motivated by my wish to become a sekitori. I am not giving that hope up just yet!!" he declared. Just once more, he would like to wear that white mawashi- the simple fight to survive of a seasoned veteran. Edited March 5, 2011 by Kintamayama
ilovesumo Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 Probably jumps back up due to the results of the investigation if he is "clean" ...who knows? Some guys kicked out => space for Zoe. I always wondered what his many-matta strategy was all about....
Stelios Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 Kakizoe is ranked west Makushita one on the new non-Banzuke. He has fallen from Juryo, lost his 1,030,000 yen salary and will have to make do with 150,000 yen for two months to maintain his family of a wife and two kids, 3 years old and 9 months old. His fall is even more difficult, as he was in sanyaku before. "I really want to get back up there, but it is impossible now. When will the next basho be held?? These are very hard times..," he lamented. He is also a mess physically. Both knees, lower back, shoulder- enough for a lifetime. "My body is in shambles and I have become weaker," he admits. He was looking forward to fighting his way back to the top, but he feels he's wrongfully paying for others' wrongdoings. All he can do is take advantage of the forced hiatus and try to rehabilitate his body the best he can, but he can't hide his anger and frustration. He had even considered retiring, but eventually decided against it after the people close to him talked him out of it. "I have nowhere to vent my frustrations., but ever since I joined this world of sumo I was motivated by my wish to become a sekitori. I am not giving that hope up just yet!!" he declared. Just once more, he would like to wear that white mawashi- the simple fight to survive of a seasoned veteran. I thought that the unbanzuke for the non sekitori was not released. Do you have the list?
Kotoviki Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 In Hatsu basho I sat next to the lady and her family who are head of his tanimachi! She worried about him so much dropping out of juryo and taking care of wife and kids!! She mentioned that they will help him out when he is without salary but really, how much can anyone help out paying Tokyo rents... he can eat free at the heya but his family still needs to eat.. She said at that time his body was so abused and injured!! I feel sorry for him, it is a hard world, especially when the younger boys are scratching their way up around you...
Kintamayama Posted March 5, 2011 Author Posted March 5, 2011 I thought that the unbanzuke for the non sekitori was not released. Do you have the list? No, but my understanding is that it was sent to all the heya and press. Kakizoe's specific rank was mentioned in the article.
Flohru Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 In Hatsu basho I sat next to the lady and her family who are head of his tanimachi! She worried about him so much dropping out of juryo and taking care of wife and kids!! She mentioned that they will help him out when he is without salary but really, how much can anyone help out paying Tokyo rents... he can eat free at the heya but his family still needs to eat.. Uhm, this guy has been a sekitori for the past 8 years, don't tell me there is danger that his family is going to starve now?
alpineviolet Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 In Hatsu basho I sat next to the lady and her family who are head of his tanimachi! She worried about him so much dropping out of juryo and taking care of wife and kids!! She mentioned that they will help him out when he is without salary but really, how much can anyone help out paying Tokyo rents... he can eat free at the heya but his family still needs to eat.. Uhm, this guy has been a sekitori for the past 8 years, don't tell me there is danger that his family is going to starve now? Probably he has money saved. But I think for a lot of people, and this is very common though perhaps unwise, you get used to living a certain lifestyle, you don't expect it to end, and then it suddenly changes (I'm still new to sumo but his fall out of Juryo looked pretty quick to me). You have to rebudget, and things can look very scary. So I don't think his family will starve, but living in Tokyo is expensive (as I'm finding out, just trying to budget an extended stay...) and they are going to be missing a salary for quite a bit longer than expected. I think the point isn't really whether his family will be out on the street, but that his comeback attempt is going to take longer, and cause him a lot more trouble, because of some cheaters (who will be receiving their salaries). Being in Makushita, will he have to go back to living in the heya, away from his family, for all that time? :-(
Kuroyama Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 In Hatsu basho I sat next to the lady and her family who are head of his tanimachi! She worried about him so much dropping out of juryo and taking care of wife and kids!! She mentioned that they will help him out when he is without salary but really, how much can anyone help out paying Tokyo rents... he can eat free at the heya but his family still needs to eat.. Uhm, this guy has been a sekitori for the past 8 years, don't tell me there is danger that his family is going to starve now? How much do most people have saved, even in Japan, compared to their expenditures? A year's income would be a lot. And this is Tokyo: Not exactly the cheapest place in the world to live.
Orion Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) In Hatsu basho I sat next to the lady and her family who are head of his tanimachi! She worried about him so much dropping out of juryo and taking care of wife and kids!! She mentioned that they will help him out when he is without salary but really, how much can anyone help out paying Tokyo rents... he can eat free at the heya but his family still needs to eat.. Uhm, this guy has been a sekitori for the past 8 years, don't tell me there is danger that his family is going to starve now? Probably he has money saved. But I think for a lot of people, and this is very common though perhaps unwise, you get used to living a certain lifestyle, you don't expect it to end, and then it suddenly changes (I'm still new to sumo but his fall out of Juryo looked pretty quick to me). You have to rebudget, and things can look very scary. So I don't think his family will starve, but living in Tokyo is expensive (as I'm finding out, just trying to budget an extended stay...) and they are going to be missing a salary for quite a bit longer than expected. I think the point isn't really whether his family will be out on the street, but that his comeback attempt is going to take longer, and cause him a lot more trouble, because of some cheaters (who will be receiving their salaries). Being in Makushita, will he have to go back to living in the heya, away from his family, for all that time? :-( No, once they're married they live outside. But note: here, we're talking about a Japanese man married to a Japanese woman. Normally he hands over his salary and she doles back his spending money. Of course in sumo there are a lot of extras that he may spend at his discretion, but basically, she gets the regular salary. For sure she has salted away some savings for the hard times. This is not the problem. The problem is how he is going to get back to the good times and regain his standing. And that isn't easy in the present mess. Orion Edited March 6, 2011 by Orion
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