World Cup 2010

[Ganzohnesushi]

...I'll admit I'm not completely unopposed to the "reduce the number of players successively" approach that Itachi suggests, though I suspect it's another thing that works much better in theory than it would in practice for soccer.

Please don't call it soccer. It's the one and only real FOOTBALL. Only ignorant Americans call it soccer because they call their silly Rugby adaptation football.

Ganzohnesushi

[yorikiried by fate]

That's pretty rough talk for SF.

[Asashosakari]

Eh, I'm proud to be an ignorant American.

(And a stereotypical Canadian, given my penchant for using "eh".)

Maybe I'll start calling it football-soccer, in line with the gyoji-referee thing.

[Jejima]

I used to think that 'soccer' was an 'Americanisation' of 'football', until watching a quiz show some years back, when it was explained otherwise. It was originally used in England, around the time that the rules of the game were first formalised. It is a shortening of the term 'Association Football', the term used to distinguish the game from the 'other' form of football, known as 'Rugby football'. (The whole history of how the game's rules were first put together is fascinating, and well worth a read.)

I've just checked on Wikipedia, and it says pretty much the same.

On a side note, I was never keen on hearing 'Fall' being used instead of 'Autumn' - until I learnt (same quiz show, I think) that it is the more ancient of the two names, and was widely in use in Elizabethan England.

Wikipedia again seems to say the same.

[Gernobono]

I used to think that 'soccer' was an 'Americanisation' of 'football', until watching a quiz show some years back, when it was explained otherwise. It was originally used in England, around the time that the rules of the game were first formalised. It is a shortening of the term 'Association Football', the term used to distinguish the game from the 'other' form of football, known as 'Rugby football'. (The whole history of how the game's rules were first put together is fascinating, and well worth a read.)

I've just checked on Wikipedia, and it says pretty much the same.

On a side note, I was never keen on hearing 'Fall' being used instead of 'Autumn' - until I learnt (same quiz show, I think) that it is the more ancient of the two names, and was widely in use in Elizabethan England.

Wikipedia again seems to say the same.

you are aware that wikipedia does not own the truth?.....maybe both articles are written by the person making all that up for the quiz-show (In a state of confusion...)

[Jejima]

you are aware that wikipedia does not own the truth?.....maybe both articles are written by the person making all that up for the quiz-show (In a state of confusion...)

The sneaky *********, s/he also adapted this online etymology dictionary too!

soccer

Fall

Edited June 13, 2010 by Jejima

[Gernobono]

you are aware that wikipedia does not own the truth?.....maybe both articles are written by the person making all that up for the quiz-show (Neener, neener...)

The sneaky *********, s/he also adapted this online etymology dictionary too!

soccer

Fall

you win (In a state of confusion...)

[Gusoyama]

I was going to mention the history of the word soccer, i.e. we didn't make it up, but Jejima beat me to it.

Hmm, I think I'll take the elevator down to the bottom floor of the building, take my 3/4" wrench out of the trunk of my truck, open the hood, and work on the engine from A to Z. Oh, and that's ZEE, not ZED. (Shaking head...)

Back to the world cup, an AMAZING win by Switzerland over Spain today. What a match.

[Jejima]

I was going to mention the history of the word soccer, i.e. we didn't make it up, but Jejima beat me to it.

Hmm, I think I'll take the elevator down to the bottom floor of the building, take my 3/4" wrench out of the trunk of my truck, open the hood, and work on the engine from A to Z. Oh, and that's ZEE, not ZED. ;-)

Back to the world cup, an AMAZING win by Switzerland over Spain today. What a match.

(Shaking head...)

Here's a little test for the American English speakers....

In British English....

What is a 'courgette'?

What is an 'aubergine'?

And for the speakers of British English....

In American English....

What is a 'teeter-totter'?

Getting back on topic (a little), for any speakers of English....

When a South African (speaking English) says 'robot', what is s/he most likely referring to?

[Kintamayama]

In British English....

What is an 'aubergine'?

Eggplant?

[Jejima]

In British English....

What is an 'aubergine'?

Eggplant?

Yes (Shaking head...)

[ilovesumo]

Hehe...yeah AE and BE......... I visited 3 different schools and had many English teachers. Some caught their Enrlish in GB, some in the USA, some in Australia. Mine is a mix and I will never ever be able to differenciate nor write correctly.

I say soccer, cause football is this tachi ai-egg-kicking stuff desu ne.

[Orion]

In British English....

What is an 'aubergine'?

Eggplant?

Right. Since the Brits live close to France it's natural that we should use the French word 'aubergine' for what was in my youth a rare imported item. (Though until I went to college at the age of 18 I had also never met spinach, asparagus or peanut butter -- all of which I thought were wonderful inventions.)

Orion at memories, memories....

[Orion]

In American English....

What is a 'teeter-totter'?

It's a seesaw -- but the regular two-way movement makes this Americanism sound rather strange to a Brit -- more like the fairground cakewalk machine. Now that's really going back -- when I was a really little kid it was one of the oldest rides on the block; my mother and her sister-in-law could easily waltz on this slowly-rocking monster.

Orion

Edited June 17, 2010 by Orion

[Kintamayama]

As is widely known it is written in the stars that France will win their second championship. That much is given, but there remain certain uncertainties about the results of individual matches.

My stars say France won't advance past the final 16 teams.

We shall see.

Just a reminder..

[Jejima]

Here are the answers (highlight after the arrow to see).

Here's a little test for the American English speakers....

In British English....

What is a 'courgette'? --> zucchini

What is an 'aubergine'? --> egg plant

And for the speakers of British English....

In American English....

What is a 'teeter-totter'? --> see-saw

Getting back on topic (a little), for any speakers of English....

When a South African (speaking English) says 'robot', what is s/he most likely referring to? --> traffic lights

[Takanorappa]

[in British English....

What is a 'courgette'?

Okay. I'll guess it's a small cougar :-O

[Bealzbob]

Back on topic. I hope last night and indeed the Uruguay match has brought the French back to reality. The players actually look embarrassed to be there. I hope Uruguay and Mexico arrange a draw now.

[Kaiomitsuki]

I hope Uruguay and Mexico arrange a draw now.

Mexico will be second in the Group A with a draw against Uruguay... Do you believe that Mexico want to meet Argentina in the round of 16 ? I'm sure they will prefer to meet Greece, Nigeria or South Korea... So I think that Uruguay and Mexico will play for winning because they want to finish first in the Group A.

With a draw France is out... but with a win for Uruguay or Mexico, France is already out because we shouldn't forget the goal difference

Uruguay is +3, Mexico +2... France -2 and South Africa -3

the goal difference is too much important

...

and because France can't score a goal so France will not win against South Africa (Laughing...)

But If France wins (Nodding yes...) ... and Uruguay or Mexico wins :

Mexico and France are one and two in the ranking of the group A :

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 1-0, France should win 5-0 (or 6-1, 7-2...) or better or 4-0 (or 5-1, 6-2...)

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 2-1, France should win 5-0 (or 6-1, 7-2...) or better or 5-1 (or 6-2, 7-3...) (with a 4-0 score we have a drawing between Uruguay and France *)

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 3-2, France should win 5-0 (or 6-1, 7-2...) or better or 6-2 (or 7-3, 8-4...) (with a 5-1 score we have a drawing between Uruguay and France)

...

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 2-0, France should win 4-0 (or 5-1, 6-2...) or better or 4-1 (or 5-2, 6-3...) (with a 3-0 score we have a drawing between Uruguay and France)

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 3-1, France should win 4-0 (or 5-1, 6-2...) or better or 5-2 (or 6-3, 7-4...) (with a 4-1 score we have a drawing between Uruguay and France)

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 4-2, France should win 4-0 (or 5-1, 6-2...) or better or 6-3 (or 7-4, 8-5...) (with a 5-2 score we have a drawing between Uruguay and France)

...

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 3-0, France should win 3-0 (or 4-1, 5-2...) or better or 4-2 (or 5-3, 6-4...) (with a 3-1 score we have a drawing between France and Uruguay)

If Mexico wins against Urugauy 4-1, France should win 3-0 (or 4-1, 5-2...) or better or 5-3 (or 6-4, 7-5...) (with a 4-2 score we have a drawing between France and Uruguay)

...

If Mexico wins against Uruguay 4-0, France should win 2-0 (or 3-1, 4-2...) or better or 4-3 (or 5-4, 6-5...) (with a 3-2 score we have a drawing between France and Uruguay)

If Mexico wins against Urugauy 5-1, France should win 2-0 (or 3-1, 4-2...) or better or 5-4 (or 6-5, 7-6...) (with a 4-3 score we have a drawing between France and Uruguay)

...

Uruguay and France are one and two in the ranking of the group A :

If Uruguay wins against Mexico 1-0, France should win 4-0 (or 5-1, 6-2...) or better or 4-1 (or 5-2, 6-3...)

If Uruguay wins against Mexico 2-1, France should win 4-0 (or 5-1, 6-2...) or better or 5-2 (or 6-3, 7-4...)

If Uruguay wins against Mexico 3-2, France shouls win 4-0 (or 5-1, 6-2...) or better or 6-3 (or 7-4, 8-5...)

..

If Uruguay wins against Mexico 2-0, France should win 3-0 (or 4-1, 5-2...) or better or 4-2 (or 5-3, 6-4...)

If Uruguay wins against Mexico 3-1, France should win 3-0 (or 4-1, 5-2...) or better or 5-3 (or 6-4, 7-5...)

...

If Uruguay wins against Mexico 3-0, France should win 2-0 (or 3-1, 4-2...) or better or 4-3 (or 5-4, 6-5...)

If Uruguay wins against Mexico 4-1, France should win 2-0 (or 3-1, 4-2...) or better or 5-4 (or 6-5, 7-6...)

Impossible :-O

*Tie rule :

For the World Cup tournament, FIFA uses the following criteria to rank teams in the Group Stage.[67]

1 - greatest number of points in all group matches;

2 - goal difference in all group matches;

3 - greatest number of goals scored in all group matches;

4 - greatest number of points in matches between tied teams;

5 - goal difference in matches between tied teams;

6 - greatest number of goals scored in matches between tied teams;

7 - drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

Edited June 19, 2010 by Kaiomitsuki

[Asashosakari]

I think you just expended more effort on that than the French squad did on their first two matches. :-O

[Sakana]

French team is ill... Anelka, Gallas, Ribery have a bad spirit. For example, the substitution at half-time with Anelka out and Gignac in.

The reason ? A technical substitution ? No, a reaction to some words said by Anelka to Domenech. The main french sport newspapers L'Equipe published this :

"Go f*** yourself, son of a b****"

It's an awful event in the World Cup... We should have washed our stinky clothes at home, not in the WC'10... :-O (Nodding yes...)

[Kaiomitsuki]

I think you just expended more effort on that than the French squad did on their first two matches. :-O

you are right (Nodding yes...)

[Sakana]

Mexico will win 1-0 and that's all we need to come back home quickly. Or maybe we'll win 5-0 in this case ? We're doomed since the first match. Time to destroy everything in our Federation and make a restart...

[Bealzbob]

Rib

[Orion]

Rib