Kyokai revamped site

[Kintamayama]

The Kyokai has revamped its site. This is the new URL. Some stuff isn't working yet, but..

http://www.sumo.or.jp/eng/index.html

[Doitsuyama]

Indeed, stuff isn't working yet! I wanted to copy the day 1 matches as usual into my Excel spreadsheet assisting me with my Sumo games, and darned if the page would work! The matches, banzuke etc. apparently are supposed to be on http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/

Here the text from the Kyokai: [Goo], one of Japan's most popular portal sites, will now serve as the access point for much of the official Nihon Sumo Kyokai data and video you have enjoyed to date. Presented in an even easier to use, easier to view format, this site will also offer a range of new content designed to further increase your knowledge and understanding of Japan's national sport. Be sure to check it out!

Unfortunately, this most popular Japanese portal site doesn't have a DNS entry which reeks for giant incompetence if you ask me. Anyone having success getting http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/ ?

[Kintamayama]

Indeed, stuff isn't working yet! I wanted to copy the day 1 matches as usual into my Excel spreadsheet assisting me with my Sumo games, and darned if the page would work! The matches, banzuke etc. apparently are supposed to be on http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/

Not to worry!! I am here!! Secret URL!! Detective!!

http://202.32.119.12/eng/index.php

[Fujisan]

I dont like the look of it so far but maybe its because of my Isp struggling with the site graphics-

Anyway isn't this a bit of bad timing two days before the start of hatsu,who was the genius behind that idea?

[sekihiryu]

wow that must have happened this afternoon, I was browsing through the old site this morning! blink and you will miss it all in this world

(Nodding yes...)

[Naganoyama]

I am still having problems with it. I think it is rather a risky thing to have launched this new site such a short time before the basho. If there are any teething problems (or should I say any MORE teething problems) it could seriously jeapardise the basho coverage.

I logged in for (and couldn't get at) the torikumi and the kyujo.

Do you suppose this could have been delayed until later in the month to get it well bedded in in time for Haru Basho?

[Naganoyama]

Sorry for the duplication, I have only just seen Fu-san's post.

[Doitsuyama]

Not to worry!! I am here!! Secret URL!! Detective!!

http://202.32.119.12/eng/index.php

Ok, this URL works as this is still the old page. But who knows how long this script will continue to work?

I had success meanwhile viewing the new goo. It seems like Europeans are excluded from viewing the new gooey portal as I had success viewing it through a Japanese proxy server, like 61.120.95.90, port 80. If you remember, during Aki 2002 there once was the same problem with Europeans excluded. Back then I supposed it was a case of load balancing using the IP address as key for routing to one of several web servers, and the server for Europe down or misconfigured. It might or might not be the same this time with the goo-portal.

Only thing I can say is, I didn't see a lot of improvement on the new pages, the pages had more goo (if you understand me) on it, and definitely more advertisements.

[Kashunowaka]

Not to worry!! I am here!! Secret URL!! Detective!!

http://202.32.119.12/eng/index.php

Ok, this URL works as this is still the old page. But who knows how long this script will continue to work?

I had success meanwhile viewing the new goo. It seems like Europeans are excluded from viewing the new gooey portal as I had success viewing it through a Japanese proxy server, like 61.120.95.90, port 80. If you remember, during Aki 2002 there once was the same problem with Europeans excluded. Back then I supposed it was a case of load balancing using the IP address as key for routing to one of several web servers, and the server for Europe down or misconfigured. It might or might not be the same this time with the goo-portal.

Only thing I can say is, I didn't see a lot of improvement on the new pages, the pages had more goo (if you understand me) on it, and definitely more advertisements.

Thanks for the invaluable tip, Doitsuyama. How do you find about Japanese proxy servers, by the way? Well, I don't mind a little more ads as long as the content is still there, and it seems it is.

[Doitsuyama]

Thanks for the invaluable tip, Doitsuyama. How do you find about Japanese proxy servers, by the way? Well, I don't mind a little more ads as long as the content is still there, and it seems it is.

I was asking myself how to find a Japanese proxy server as the one I used back in Aki 2002 wasn't working anymore. So I did a little search and stumbled upon the very helpful site http://www.publicproxyservers.com/index.html

[Kashunowaka]

Thanks for the invaluable tip, Doitsuyama. How do you find about Japanese proxy servers, by the way? Well, I don't mind a little more ads as long as the content is still there, and it seems it is.

I was asking myself how to find a Japanese proxy server as the one I used back in Aki 2002 wasn't working anymore. So I did a little search and stumbled upon the very helpful site http://www.publicproxyservers.com/index.html

Thanks again. (Clapping wildly...)

Going back to the subject of the NSK site, still no proper kesho photograph for the following sekitori (juryo debut within parens):

Masutsuyoshi (3/98)

Wakatenro (11/01)

Dewanofuji (3/03)

Futeno (5/03)

Kaido (5/03)

Bushuyama (11/03)

Hakuho (1/04)

Roho (1/04)

Sigh... Has Masutsuyoshi ever had a kesho photo on the NSK site? It's been bloody six years, and this will be his 13th basho in juryo! (Applauding...)

[furanohana]

Could someone speaking Japanese (more chances to be answered I think) tell the guys managing the new site at Goo that there is a problem with the European fans ?

I seem to racall that it was doing that that solved the problem last time, after several days of discussion between us...

[Kashunowaka]

I get a little worried when a company with the name "goo" takes over the sumo coverage. According to dictionary.com, goo means

• 1. A sticky wet viscous substance.
  
• 2. Sentimental drivel.
  

or alternatively

• any thick messy substance [syn: sludge, slime, gook, guck, gunk, muck, ooze]
  

With a company name like that, I get the feeling that they don't care much about the English-speaking market.

Not as bad as when Honda planned to launch Honda Fitta in Sweden and Norway, but still ... (Clapping wildly...)

[Asashosakari]

No luck for me yet to escape the "The page cannot be displayed" type of errors on the new goo site, so I appreciate Moti posting the IP for the old Kyokai server.

(Edit: Looks like IE didn't like my futzing with the proxy settings...Netscape seems to be less discriminating and accepted the proxy server Doitsuyama-zeki mentioned [thanks!].)

I agree with all those who find the timing of this change a bit unfortunate...

(Edit: And having seen the site now, I also agree with those sentiments that the site looks a bit gooey and not in a good way. Though, I suppose I'll get used to it. (Applauding...))

Going back to the subject of the NSK site, still no proper kesho photograph for the following sekitori

Does this mean Wakatoba finally has one on the new site (if so, yay, even if I can't access it), or did you just overlook him?

(Edit: Wow, he does indeed have one...baby steps, baby steps. Maybe Masutsuyoshi will be up during the next round of additions, four months from now or so. (In a state of confusion...))

Edited January 9, 2004 by Asashosakari

[Yoavoshimaru]

Goo is a funny name. But I love the new site. I think it looks great, and everything is working for me without any proxy settings. (In a state of confusion...)

[Kashunowaka]

Going back to the subject of the NSK site, still no proper kesho photograph for the following sekitori

Does this mean Wakatoba finally has one on the new site (if so, yay, even if I can't access it), or did you just overlook him?

Yay!

Try connecting through proxy as Doitsuyama suggested.

[Yubiquitoyama]

Going back to the subject of the NSK site, still no proper kesho photograph for the following sekitori

Does this mean Wakatoba finally has one on the new site (if so, yay, even if I can't access it), or did you just overlook him?

Yay!

(In a state of confusion...)

Nice kesho... And actually fitting with his shikona too, which I think we concluded in a thread here maybe a year ago, is quite unusual (Applauding...)

[Manekineko]

Yup, can't load the gooey page at all. How does one pick a proxy only for certain wep-pages in IE? I shudder at the thought of having to consult Microsoft Help. (In a state of confusion...)

Edit: mistypes caused by slightly different key layout at home and work. Hate that! (Applauding...)

Edited January 9, 2004 by Manekineko

[Zenjimoto]

I get a little worried when a company with the name "goo" takes over the sumo coverage. According to dictionary.com, goo means

• 1. A sticky wet viscous substance.
  
• 2. Sentimental drivel.
  

or alternatively

• any thick messy substance [syn: sludge, slime, gook, guck, gunk, muck, ooze]
  

With a company name like that, I get the feeling that they don't care much about the English-speaking market.

Not as bad as when Honda planned to launch Honda Fitta in Sweden and Norway, but still ... (Dribbling...)

In several Indian languages (Bengali, for one), Goo means sh*t (Applauding...)

Let's hope that's not what this new site will be (In a state of confusion...)

Biggest concern to me of course is the automation of the sumo games. I spoke to Kofuji this morning, and he has worked tirelessly before his just-upcoming jyungyo overseas to try and make sure the torikumi and results will be getting pulled off the NSK web site, as they have been in the past. Potentially dangerous situation, even though for now thanks to Bob's efforts, it seems under control. Really not what he needs just a couple days before the basho, especially since he will be traveling during! :-\

Cheers

Zenjimoto

[Kashunowaka]

Yup, can't load the gooey page at all. How does one pick a proxy only for certain wep-pages in IE? I shudder at the thought of having to consult Microsoft Help.  (In a state of confusion...)

AFAIK, you can't use a proxy just for certain web sites in the most common browsers. Normally you can do the other way around, i.e. use a proxy except for certain web sites (typically addresses in your local network).

Edit: you can use a proxy for certain web sites with the excellent Konqueror browser. If you happen to run Linux. (Applauding...)

Of course if you want to, you can let all your traffic go through a Japanese proxy. To configure proxy settings in IE6, it's Tools->Options->Connections. Then it's apparently different depending on how you connect to the Internet. I click on "LAN Settings...", select "Use a proxy server for your LAN", click "Advanced" and enter the address and port to the proxy server in Japan.

Or you can use a different browser for accessing the gooey site: Mozilla, Opera etc. and configure proxy for that browser instead.

Edited January 9, 2004 by Kashunowaka

[Zentoryu]

Biggest concern to me of course is the automation of the sumo games. I spoke to Kofuji this morning, and he has worked tirelessly before his just-upcoming jyungyo overseas to try and make sure the torikumi and results will be getting pulled off the NSK web site, as they have been in the past. Potentially dangerous situation, even though for now thanks to Bob's efforts, it seems under control. Really not what he needs just a couple days before the basho, especially since he will be traveling during! :-\

Agree with your concerns. Hopefully everything will turn out OK as this is a potential disaster waiting to happen. (Laughing...)

[Zenjimoto]

As for me, I can't access anything of matter on the new site, and quite frankly, screw having to use a proxy server. It's a ridiculous failure by the NSK web team. (Laughing...)

And, I guess I better not try the :-\ smiley with a backslash (Blushing...)

Jeers

Zenjimoto

Edited January 9, 2004 by Zenjimoto

[Gernobono]

has anyone noticed that the kimarite stats of any rikishi says:

Top Ten Techniques Used By Asashoryu In Makuuchi/Juryo During The Last Six Tournaments

(Laughing...)

[Oikeassa]

I just tried to connect for the live streaming video and got "Server Session Limit is Exceeded". Really exceeded or another bug with the new site? Anybody able to connect already?

[Kotoseiya Yuichi]

No one so far hasn't got a steady connection, it seems.