2 Pictures of newbies

[Naganoyama]

If the suspense starts threatening to kill you, keep an eye on this page courtesy of the Kyokai. No shikona listed yet for Naranbat, but I'm sure it'll appear sooner or later.  B-)

That is a clever trick Asasho-zeki.

Can you tell me where are listed the ID numbers for the rikishi so that you can go straight to their pages like this. I know that the ids for rikishi on the banzuke are in the html for the banzuke (encoded into the links to the rikishi). But not how to get ids for mae-zumo guys.

Also I didn't know that template pages appeared so early in the rikishi's career.

[Yubiquitoyama]

If the suspense starts threatening to kill you, keep an eye on this page courtesy of the Kyokai. No shikona listed yet for Naranbat, but I'm sure it'll appear sooner or later.

[Asashosakari]

I think it's time to produce a new list (Doitsuyama-zeki?), but the last I saw was on the SML a couple of years ago:

http://www.banzuke.com/01-5/msg00401.html

Since then, every new starting rikishi has been added in consecutive order from 2400 or so to now, 2651 which is the last rikishi entering Hatsu 2004. The recruits next basho (likely a rather large bunch) will then be added as number 2652 and higher.

Kofuji actually posted an updated list/excel file about half a year ago: http://www.banzuke.com/03-4/msg00114.html

It's missing a few recent entries of course (about 40 now with the Hatsu 2004 mae-zumo entrants), but it's a good starting point. :-)

Edit: One thing that should probably be mentioned again, now that more people might be taking a look at those pages - the data listed on them is notoriously unreliable except for sekitori and recent debutants (about 2001 onward*). From what I can tell, the Kyokai didn't actually enter much of the available data for lower division rikishi into the database in the past, so you get nonsense like guys listed as having been in sumo for 8 years and only having a bout record of 68-54, or the like. Or more subtle stuff, like the highest rank being wrong, because a rikishi enjoyed his highest rank before that data was tracked. Etc. etc.

* Edit again: The continuous adding of new entrants to the database seems to have started at #2319 with the 2001.03 class, so that's probably also the point at which the data has started being reliable.

Edited January 11, 2004 by Asashosakari

[Naganoyama]

Thanks, I will have a look