Kaiowaka Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 (edited) Ms45e Azumaryu Edited January 9, 2010 by Kaiowaka
Imumaru Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I retire from the first wave! (Whistling...) to Gernobono!
Jakusotsu Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Scoreboard Hatsu Basho: Rank Shikona Surfs Position Standing 1. Gernobono Goeido M2e 0-0 2. Ganzohnesushi* Nakanishi Ms3w 0-0 3. Fujisan Wakaryusei Ms10w 0-0 4. Hironoumi Hoshihikari Ms12w 0-0 5. Exil DNP (1st) Ms17e N/A 6. Andoreasu*** Ryuo Ms24w 0-0 7. Vikanohara* Higonojo/Fukao Ms28e/Ms35w 0-0 8. yamaneko* Kamei Ms29w 0-0 9. Azumashida DNP (1st) Ms30e N/A 10. charliki Daitensho Ms30w 0-0 11. Golynohana Fukao Ms35w 0-0 12. Tamanaogijima DNP (1st) Ms38w N/A 13. Kaiowaka*** Azumaryu Ms45e 0-0 14. GONZABUROW*** Homarefuji Ms47e 0-0 15. Doitsuyama Kawanari Ms47w 0-0 16. Oshirokita DNP (1st) Ms47w N/A 17. Itachi Sakaguchi Ms50e 0-0 18. Susanoo* Sakaguchi Ms50e 0-0 19. Jakusotsu*** Sakaguchi Ms50e 0-0 20. Mmikasazuma** Sakaguchi Ms50e 0-0 21. Gusoyama* DNP (1st) Ms50w N/A 22. Fay** Kakureizan Ms53e 0-0 23. Terarno Hokutoiwa Ms56w 0-0 24. Harry Kumagai Ms58e 0-0 25. Asafan* Chiyootori Sd6w 0-0 26. Jejima Chiyootori Sd6w 0-0 27. Odoriou** Aisaka Sd7e 0-0 28. Profomisakari* Aoiyama Sd30e 0-0 29. Frinkanohana Kasugashima Sd48e 0-0 30. Zenjimoto Asai Sd55e 0-0 31. Takanorappa* Kamiyutaka Sd63e 0-0 32. Hidariashiyama*** Terashita Jd20w 0-0 33. Kachitakai DNP (2nd) Jd61e N/A 34. ilovetochinoshin*** Kaneko Jd72e 0-0 35. Mattjila*** Hinohikari Jd85e 0-0 36. Holleshoryu Arai Jd85w 0-0 37. Shibata-gumi*** Hasugeyama Jk15w 0-0 38. Sashohitowa*** Kozan Jk20e 0-0
Jakusotsu Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Standings after day 6: I guess Gernobono will have to wish for a stellar second week for Goeido to end this wave anytime soon. Far, far behind, there aren't many picked rikishi without a loss, the highest being Fukao and Azumaryu. Ganzohnesushi may still be in for a Juryo promotion - who knows? Rank Shikona Surfs Position Standing 1. Gernobono Goeido M2e 2-4 2. Ganzohnesushi* Nakanishi Ms3w 2-1 3. Fujisan Wakaryusei Ms10w 1-2 4. Hironoumi Hoshihikari Ms12w 2-1 5. Exil DNP (1st) Ms17e N/A 6. Andoreasu*** Ryuo Ms24w 2-1 7. Vikanohara* Higonojo/Fukao Ms28e/Ms35w 0-3/3-0 8. yamaneko* Kamei Ms29w 2-1 9. Azumashida DNP (1st) Ms30e N/A 10. charliki Daitensho Ms30w 1-2 11. Golynohana Fukao Ms35w 3-0 12. Tamanaogijima DNP (1st) Ms38w N/A 13. Kaiowaka*** Azumaryu Ms45e 3-0 14. GONZABUROW*** Homarefuji Ms47e 2-1 15. Doitsuyama Kawanari Ms47w 1-2 16. Oshirokita DNP (1st) Ms47w N/A 17. Itachi Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-0 18. Susanoo* Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-0 19. Jakusotsu*** Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-0 20. Mmikasazuma** Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-0 21. Gusoyama* DNP (1st) Ms50w N/A 22. Fay** Kakureizan Ms53e 1-2 23. Terarno Hokutoiwa Ms56w 1-2 24. Harry Kumagai Ms58e 1-2 25. Asafan* Chiyootori Sd6w 1-2 26. Jejima Chiyootori Sd6w 1-2 27. Odoriou** Aisaka Sd7e 2-1 28. Profomisakari* Aoiyama Sd30e 2-1 29. Frinkanohana Kasugashima Sd48e 1-2 30. Zenjimoto Asai Sd55e 0-1-2 31. Takanorappa* Kamiyutaka Sd63e 1-2 32. Hidariashiyama*** Terashita Jd20w 3-0 33. Kachitakai DNP (2nd) Jd61e N/A 34. ilovetochinoshin*** Kaneko Jd72e 1-2 35. Mattjila*** Hinohikari Jd85e 0-3 36. Holleshoryu Arai Jd85w 1-2 37. Shibata-gumi*** Hasugeyama Jk15w 2-1 38. Sashohitowa*** Kozan Jk20e 3-0
Jakusotsu Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 Standings after day 10: Goeido turns the tide for Gernobono and might get easy enough opponents now to finally end this wave for him. In the lower regions there are only three unbeaten surf boards left, biggest letdown being Sakaguchi losing two straight for the bandwagon. Rank Shikona Surfs Position Standing 1. Gernobono Goeido M2e 5-5 2. Ganzohnesushi* Nakanishi Ms3w 3-2 3. Fujisan Wakaryusei Ms10w 2-3 4. Hironoumi Hoshihikari Ms12w 3-2 5. Exil DNP (1st) Ms17e N/A 6. Andoreasu*** Ryuo Ms24w 2-3 7. Vikanohara* Higonojo/Fukao Ms28e/Ms35w 0-5/5-0 8. yamaneko* Kamei Ms29w 3-2 9. Azumashida DNP (1st) Ms30e N/A 10. charliki Daitensho Ms30w 3-2 11. Golynohana Fukao Ms35w 5-0 12. Tamanaogijima DNP (1st) Ms38w N/A 13. Kaiowaka*** Azumaryu Ms45e 4-1 14. GONZABUROW*** Homarefuji Ms47e 4-1 15. Doitsuyama Kawanari Ms47w 1-4 16. Oshirokita DNP (1st) Ms47w N/A 17. Itachi Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-2 18. Susanoo* Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-2 19. Jakusotsu*** Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-2 20. Mmikasazuma** Sakaguchi Ms50e 3-2 21. Gusoyama* DNP (1st) Ms50w N/A 22. Fay** Kakureizan Ms53e 2-3 23. Terarno Hokutoiwa Ms56w 1-4 24. Harry Kumagai Ms58e 3-2 25. Asafan* Chiyootori Sd6w 2-3 26. Jejima Chiyootori Sd6w 2-3 27. Odoriou** Aisaka Sd7e 4-1 28. Profomisakari* Aoiyama Sd30e 4-1 29. Frinkanohana Kasugashima Sd48e 2-3 30. Zenjimoto Asai Sd55e 1-2-2 31. Takanorappa* Kamiyutaka Sd63e 1-4 32. Hidariashiyama*** Terashita Jd20w 5-0 33. Kachitakai DNP (2nd) Jd61e N/A 34. ilovetochinoshin*** Kaneko Jd72e 3-2 35. Mattjila*** Hinohikari Jd85e 1-4 36. Holleshoryu Arai Jd85w 2-3 37. Shibata-gumi*** Hasugeyama Jk15w 3-2 38. Sashohitowa*** Kozan Jk20e 5-0
Jakusotsu Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Final Standings Hatsu Basho and Rank Estimates for Haru Basho: Gernobono had to wait until the very last day for his surfing direction to be decided, and unfortunately his Goeido didn't want this wave to be ended right now. But with nobody else joining the Sekitori ranks any time soon, Gernobono can continue patiently and unchallenged for a while. Rank Shikona Surfs Position Standing Rank Estimate 1. Gernobono Goeido M2e 7-8 M3e 2. Ganzohnesushi* Nakanishi Ms3w 4-3 Ms1w 3. Hironoumi Hoshihikari Ms12w 4-3 Ms9w 4. Vikanohara* Higonojo/Fukao Ms28e/Ms35w 1-6/6-1 Ms14w 5. Golynohana Fukao Ms35w 6-1 Ms14w 6. Fujisan Wakaryusei Ms10w 3-4 Ms16w 7. Exil DNP (1st) Ms17e N/A Ms17w 8. yamaneko* Kamei Ms29w 4-3 Ms23w 9. charliki Daitensho Ms30w 4-3 Ms24w 10. Kaiowaka*** Azumaryu Ms45e 5-2 Ms30e 11. GONZABUROW*** Homarefuji Ms47e 5-2 Ms30e 12. Azumashida DNP (1st) Ms30e N/A Ms30w 13. Tamanaogijima DNP (1st) Ms38w N/A Ms39e 14. Andoreasu*** Ryuo Ms24w 2-5 Ms39w 15. Itachi Sakaguchi Ms50e 4-3 Ms41e 16. Susanoo* Sakaguchi Ms50e 4-3 Ms41e 17. Jakusotsu*** Sakaguchi Ms50e 4-3 Ms41e 18. Mmikasazuma** Sakaguchi Ms50e 4-3 Ms41e 19. Odoriou** Aisaka Sd7e 5-2 Ms48e 20. Profomisakari* Aoiyama Sd30e 6-1 Ms48e 21. Oshirokita DNP (1st) Ms47w N/A Ms48e 22. Harry Kumagai Ms58e 4-3 Ms49e 23. Gusoyama* DNP (1st) Ms50w N/A Ms51e 24. Doitsuyama Kawanari Ms47w 3-4 Ms56w 25. Fay** Kakureizan Ms53e 3-4 Sd4e 26. Asafan* Chiyootori Sd6w 3-4 Sd21w 27. Jejima Chiyootori Sd6w 3-4 Sd21w 28. Hidariashiyama*** Terashita Jd20w 7-0 Sd25w 29. Terarno Hokutoiwa Ms56w 1-6 Sd29w 30. Frinkanohana Kasugashima Sd48e 4-3 Sd33e 31. Zenjimoto Asai Sd55e 2-3-2 Sd80e 32. Takanorappa* Kamiyutaka Sd63e 2-5 Sd88e 33. Sashohitowa*** Kozan Jk20e 7-0 Jd25e 34. ilovetochinoshin*** Kaneko Jd72e 4-3 Jd47e 35. Holleshoryu Arai Jd85w 4-3 Jd55w 36. Kachitakai DNP (2nd) Jd61e N/A Jd61w 37. Shibata-gumi*** Hasugeyama Jk15w 5-2 Jd85w 38. Mattjila*** Hinohikari Jd85e 2-5 Jd115e
Vikanohara Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 What a waste of joker this was. (Sign of approval...)
Jakusotsu Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 What a waste of joker this was. (Sign of approval...) Yeah, I think you should have skipped Fukao and stuck with Higonojo, too.
Vikanohara Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 Oh, I see what you mean. Well, didn't mean it that way of course. (Sign of approval...)
Asashosakari Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) Oh, I see what you mean.Well, didn't mean it that way of course. (Sign of approval...) Which way did you mean it? A real waste of a joker is when both guys you pick go 6-1. Your situation is pretty much the ideal outcome. Why do most players act like one pick is their "real" selection and the other is just a throw-in, anyway? They're totally equivalent picks, the "joker" designation merely means you're allowed to make multiple picks at a time. Has confused me for years now. Edited January 27, 2010 by Asashosakari
Vikanohara Posted January 27, 2010 Posted January 27, 2010 Which way did you mean it? Well, I meant it more or less like this : "What was I thinking to pick Higonojo, while Fukao was such a safe choice ? So why not just choosing the latter and thus saving a joker." But I agree that such a result is the perfect joker outcome.
Randomitsuki Posted January 27, 2010 Author Posted January 27, 2010 Of course, the picks are equivalent. However, in private parlance I regard jokers as the lower-ranked picks. Anyway, going with Higonojo and Fukao looked like a good move before the basho. They are seven full ranks apart which might have made Higonojo a better pick even if he had a win less than Fukao. As soon as your rikishi are in the Makushita-joi, such considerations become increasingly important.
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