Guest Hamanoyama Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) Can someone confirm this? My japanese ... hmmmm (Second prize...) New Juryo Roho Hakuho Daimanazuru Hamanishiki Wakatenro Gokenzan Tochifudo Sumanofuji http://www.sumo.or.jp/basho/rikishidata/new_juryo.html Edited November 26, 2003 by Hamanoyama
Kintamayama Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) Cofirmed. New Juryo: East Makushita 5 Roho 5-2- new East Makushita 9 Hakuho- 6-1 new West Makushita 16 (!) Daimanazuru 7-0 - new West Makushita 6 Hamanishiki 4-3 - since July 2003 East Makushita 3 Wakatenro 5-2- since March 2003 West Makushita 3 Gokenzan 4-3 -since May 2003 East Makuuchi 6 Tochifudo 5-2 - since September 2003 West Makuuchi 7 Sumanofuji 4-3 - since May 2003 Edited November 26, 2003 by Kintamayama
Kashunowaka Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 Cofirmed.New Juryo: East Makushita 5 Roho 5-2- new East Makushita 9 Hakuho- 6-1 new West Makushita 16 (!) Daimanazuru 7-0 - new West Makushita 6 Hamanishiki 4-3 East Makushita 3 Wakatenro 5-2 West Makushita 3 Gokenzan 4-3 East Makuuchi 6 Tochifudo 5-2 West Makuuchi 7 Sumanofuji 4-3 Let's see: 2 new maegashira + 2 new juryo + 2 retirements + 2 demotions from juryo = 8 promotions to juryo. The 2 demotions are obviously Senshuyama and Dewanofuji. Juzan hangs on by the skin of his teeth.
Asashosakari Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 And with Senshuyama's demotion, another long-running Juryo stint comes to an end, after Wakakosho's ended in Aki...oh well. Only Harunoyama and Oginishiki can lay claim to a current run of 10 or more consecutive Juryo basho now.
furanohana Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 Juzan hangs on by the skin of his teeth. That's quite a good way to say it ! (Help me...)
Yoavoshimaru Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 West Makushita 16 (!) Daimanazuru 7-0 - new Nice job by Daimanazuru. I wonder then, does this mean that a college grand champion entering at the special Ms15 rank can make it to juryo with one zensho makushita yusho?
QttP Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 Juzan hangs on by the skin of his teeth. That's quite a good way to say it ! (Help me...) That's a common expression.
Yubiquitoyama Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) West Makushita 16 (!) Daimanazuru 7-0 - new Nice job by Daimanazuru. I wonder then, does this mean that a college grand champion entering at the special Ms15 rank can make it to juryo with one zensho makushita yusho? Very much so. Actually, it has never been question that Ms15w and higher ranked will be Juryo if getting a 7-0 (regardless of it being a yusho or a kettei-sen loss). This is as hard and fast rule as there is for Juryo promotions (as I understand it, this is an actual rule/agreement) . However, to get promotion from Ms16w was probably mostly because of the special situation with the four extra sekitori. Edited November 26, 2003 by Yubiquitoyama
Yubiquitoyama Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) And with Senshuyama's demotion, another long-running Juryo stint comes to an end, after Wakakosho's ended in Aki...oh well. Only Harunoyama and Oginishiki can lay claim to a current run of 10 or more consecutive Juryo basho now. Yeah, the reign of Harunoyama yet remains, and barring his predicted Ozeki run, probably could go on forever (Help me...) EDIT: I propose that if anyone here ever is part in making a book avbout sumo, the explanation of the term "Juryo rikishi" should include a picture of Harunoyama (Annoyed...) Edited November 26, 2003 by Yubiquitoyama
Asashosakari Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) Yeah, the reign of Harunoyama yet remains, and barring his predicted Ozeki run, probably could go on forever (Help me...) Hey, his 8-7 in Kyushu was just the start of that Ozeki run, you know. (Blushing...) Seriously though, at the very least he'll probably reach a new highest rank on the Hatsu banzuke, which should be occasion to celebrate in Matsugane-beya. ;-) On another, though slightly related subject...I have the weird obsession of checking their lower division records whenever a rikishi makes his Juryo debut, and interestingly enough, Daimanazuru has apparently been ranked in Makushita for over 5 years straight. More specifically, at least since 1998.05 which is where Moti's Makushita archive begins. (That's all the data I have access to...if anyone has older records, I'd be curious to know when exactly Daimanazuru's Makushita run started.) I guess we could call the guy an "eternal talent" (who still would not be in Juryo if it wasn't for the division expansion, I guess) - and it doesn't make me too hopeful for his chances of prevailing in Juryo. But maybe he'll surprise me. (Annoyed...) Edited November 26, 2003 by Asashosakari
Doitsuyama Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) On another, though slightly related subject...I have the weird obsession of checking their lower division records whenever a rikishi makes his Juryo debut, and interestingly enough, Daimanazuru has apparently been ranked in Makushita for over 5 years straight. More specifically, at least since 1998.05 which is where Moti's Makushita archive begins. (That's all the data I have access to...if anyone has older records, I'd be curious to know when exactly Daimanazuru's Makushita run started.) Heh, if you want his career a little more detailed... 199207 Jk60w Omae 4-3 199209 Jk15w Omae 2-5 199211 Jk28w Omae 3-4 199301 Jk27e Omae 1-6 199303 Jk36e Omae 3-4 199305 Jd180w Omae 5-2 199307 Jd126w Omae 2-5 199309 Jd156e Omae 2-5 199311 Jk4w Omae 5-3 199401 Jd133e Omae 4-3 199403 Jd104w Omae 2-5 199405 Jd136e Omae 4-3 199407 Jd111e Omae 4-3 199409 Jd82w Omae 4-3 199411 Jd57w Futasewaka 6-1 199501 Sd95e Futasewaka 3-4 199503 Jd15e Futasewaka 3-4 199505 Jd32w Futasewaka 5-2 199507 Sd90w Futasewaka 4-3 199509 Sd76e Futasewaka 3-4 199511 Sd91e Futasewaka 3-4 199601 Jd13e Futasewaka 5-2 199603 Sd77e Futasewaka 4-3 199605 Sd57e Futasewaka 3-4 199607 Sd73w Futasewaka 4-3 199609 Sd54w Futasewaka 5-2 199611 Sd24w Futasewaka 4-3 199701 Sd11w Futasewaka 2-5 199703 Sd37e Futasewaka 3-4 199705 Sd57e Futasewaka 5-2 199707 Sd23e Futasewaka 4-3 *--*O-*--O-O--O 199709 Sd10w Futasewaka 6-1 -*O-O-O--O-OO-- 199711 Ms37w Futasewaka 3-4 -*O--**-O--*-O- 199801 Ms49e Futasewaka 4-3 -*-OO-*--OO-*-- 199803 Ms37w Futasewaka 4-3 *--O-O*-O-O-*-- 199805 Ms28w Futasewaka 4-3 O-*-*-*--O-O-O- 199807 Ms23w Futasewaka 3-4 O--*-*-O*-*---O 199809 Ms31e Futasewaka 5-2 -O-*O--OO-*--O- 199811 Ms18e Futasewaka 5-2 -O-O*--OO-O--*- 199901 Ms8e Futasewaka 2-5 O-*--**-*-O---* 199903 Ms19e Futasewaka 4-3 -O-*O-*-O--O*-- 199905 Ms14e Futasewaka 3-4 *-O-*--*-O-*--O 199907 Ms19w Futasewaka 3-4 O--**--*-O-O*-- 199909 Ms24e Futasewaka 2-5 *--O-O-*-**--*- 199911 Ms37e Futasewaka 4-3 O-*--*-O-*-OO-- 200001 Ms32e Daimanazuru 3-4 *--*-*O--OO--*- 200003 Ms41w Daimanazuru 3-4 -O-**--*O-O--*- 200005 Ms51w Daimanazuru 5-2 O--O*--O-*-O--O 200007 Ms36w Daimanazuru 5-2 -*-O-OO--O-*--O 200009 Ms23w Daimanazuru 5-2 -OO--*O-O--*-O- 200011 Ms10e Daimanazuru 4-3 O--*-O-*-*-O%-- 200101 Ms7w Daimanazuru 4-3 O-O-O-*-O-*--*- 200103 Ms5e Daimanazuru 2-5 -**-O-*-O-*--*- 200105 Ms16e Daimanazuru 5-2 *--*-O-O-O-O-O- 200107 Ms11e Daimanazuru 2-5 *--O-*-O*-*-*-- 200109 Ms25w Daimanazuru 3-4 -*O--O-*O-*--*- 200111 Ms35e Daimanazuru 7-0 O--O-O-OO-O-O-- 200201 Ms2w Daimanazuru 2-5 -***--*-O-*--O- 200203 Ms11w Daimanazuru 3-4 O-*-*-*--O-O-*- 200205 Ms14e Daimanazuru 2-5 -O-O*--*-**---* 200207 Ms26w Daimanazuru 6-1 -O-O-OO-O-*-O-- 200209 Ms10e Daimanazuru 2-1 O--O#---------- 200211 Ms20w Daimanazuru 3-4 -**-O-O--*-O*-- 200301 Ms28e Daimanazuru 5-2 -O-O-O*-O--*O-- 200303 Ms15e Daimanazuru 5-2 -OO--O-O*--O*-- 200305 Ms8w Daimanazuru 3-4 -*-O-*-**--O--O 200307 Ms13w Daimanazuru 4-3 O-O--O*-O-*--*- 200309 Ms9w Daimanazuru 3-4 -*O-*--O-*-O-*- 200311 Ms16w Daimanazuru 7-0 O-O-O--OO--OO-- Edited November 26, 2003 by Doitsuyama
Asashosakari Posted November 26, 2003 Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) (Blushing...) Yeah, that's what I call detailed! Many thanks, Doitsuyama-zeki. (Annoyed...) 37 consecutive Makushita basho...that's quite impressive. And he was fairly steady in Jonidan 1993-1994 and in Sandanme 1995-1997, too...maybe that's just the way he "works" and he'll now become a steady Juryo rikishi for the next 10 years... (Help me...) Edited November 26, 2003 by Asashosakari
Tenkashoryu Posted November 28, 2003 Posted November 28, 2003 Hey guys, can give me some more descriptions about these new sekitoris. (Applauding...) Anything you like their physical characteristics, favourite technics and personalities. Especially about foreigners Roho and Hakuho. Thx,
Takanobaka Posted November 30, 2003 Posted November 30, 2003 Hey guys, can give me some more descriptions about these new sekitoris. :-( Anything you like their physical characteristics, favourite technics and personalities. Especially about foreigners Roho and Hakuho. Thx, Don't know much about Hakuho, but Roho (besides obviously being Russian) seems slightly more yotsu than oshi, although he seems to mix it up a bit more than most. Also, he's fairly slim and muscular, although it looks like he could still fill out quite a bit. As for his personality, I'll just assume he's a good guy until proven otherwise (Sigh...)
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