Gernobono Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 i missed the bandwaggon yesterday....in fact i forgot that there was one.... but day 14 will bring baruto
Yaochoyama Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Couple of questions/clarifications for rijicho: Now that my big 'Be the First Woman To Kiss a GKA Yokozuna' party for the weekend has been canceled, I had a few questions for rijicho. Rijicho, here are the rules you set out last month: a) Mae-zumo players are excluded from calculations. b) Kyujo (0-0-15) players are excluded from calculations. c) All players scores are added up, and an average taken. That figure is then rounded to the nearest whole digit. That becomes the KK / MK cut off-line. Question 1 - when you say "all players scores are added up and an average taken" am I safe in assuming that by average you mean the number of wins per 15 entries? So if 10 non-maezumo people play and collectively they have a score of 50-80-20, the average would NOT be 5.00 (50/10) but 5.77 (50/(50+80) * 15)? Question 2 - no formal rule has been set for kadoban ozeki status. I'm assuming an ozkei would be kadoban if s/he fell below the KK / MK cutoff line. So in the example given above where there was a collective score of 50-80-20 and a 5.77 average, would the cutoff line would be 6 wins and an ozeki would only be kadoban if s/he had 5 wins or fewer?
Jejima Posted July 23, 2009 Author Posted July 23, 2009 Couple of questions/clarifications for rijicho:Now that my big 'Be the First Woman To Kiss a GKA Yokozuna' party for the weekend has been canceled, I had a few questions for rijicho. Rijicho, here are the rules you set out last month: a) Mae-zumo players are excluded from calculations. b) Kyujo (0-0-15) players are excluded from calculations. c) All players scores are added up, and an average taken. That figure is then rounded to the nearest whole digit. That becomes the KK / MK cut off-line. Question 1 - when you say "all players scores are added up and an average taken" am I safe in assuming that by average you mean the number of wins per 15 entries? So if 10 non-maezumo people play and collectively they have a score of 50-80-20, the average would NOT be 5.00 (50/10) but 5.77 (50/(50+80) * 15)? Question 2 - no formal rule has been set for kadoban ozeki status. I'm assuming an ozkei would be kadoban if s/he fell below the KK / MK cutoff line. So in the example given above where there was a collective score of 50-80-20 and a 5.77 average, would the cutoff line would be 6 wins and an ozeki would only be kadoban if s/he had 5 wins or fewer? I will give an answer later. I don't want to now, as I've only had 2 hours sleep in the past 45 or so hours, and the jet lag is kicking in....
Profomisakari Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 like Yesterday: Day 14 Aminishiki Profomisakari
Kofuji Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Since Jejima is jetlagged and likely unable to do today's results, I'll step in again. Ten of us were pleased that the torikumi makers picked Baruto as Kisenosato's aite for Day 14. Our leader, Maguroyama, was not among them so only has day 15 left in which to get a true kachikoshi. As he continues to lead, he is invited to start the Day 15 bandwagon. I will be in the air somewhere over eastern Canada this time tomorrow if my flight leaves on time so it will be up to someone else to bring you tomorrow's results. Yaochoyama (O1E 6-8) O Sokkenaiyama (S1E 3-11) S Profomisakari (S1W 5-9) Jakusotsu (K1E 5-9) K Maguroyama (K1W 7-6-1) Oshirokita (M1E 4-10) M1 Kofuji (M1W 6-8) Jejima (M2E 4-10) M2 Harry (M2W 7-7) XiaoTan (M3E 4-10) M3 ilovetochinoshin (M3W 6-8) Holleshoryu (M4E 4-10) M4 Chisaiyama (M4W 5-9) Hidariashiyama (M5E 3-8-3) M5 Gernobono (M5W 5-8-1) Mae-zumo Ganzohnesushi (mz 4-7-3) Kisenosato's aites: 1. O1E Harumafuji, 2. O3E Chiyotaikai, 3. M3E Iwakiyama, 4. M1W Goeido, 5. O2E Kaio, 6. O2W Kotomitsuki, 7. YE Hakuho, 8. YW Asashoryu, 9. M1E Aran, 10. O1W Kotooshu, 11. K1E Kotoshogiku, 12. K1W Kyokutenho, 13. S1E Kakuryu, 14. M3W Baruto
Maguroyama Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Darn! I was hoping for anyone but Baruto for day 14, which would have made senshuraku easy. Now day 15 is a complete toss-up. Better stick with my last guess: MIYABIYAMA
Jakusotsu Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Ah, what the heck, I'll stick with Day 15 - Aminishiki
Jejima Posted July 24, 2009 Author Posted July 24, 2009 Aminishiki is still (technically) in the yusho race, so needs a suitable senshuraku aite..... Chiyotaikai would seem a good pick, except Taikai has not faced Kakuryu yet.... Kisenosato is the next best aite for Aminishiki, so I'll once again stick with Aminishiki for day 15 :-|
Jejima Posted July 24, 2009 Author Posted July 24, 2009 Thanks (again) toKofuji for helping out. Indeed, I was jet-lagged etc....! I'll look after the final day's results, but it will probably come at around 10 pm Japan time tomorrow - a little later than usual.
Jejima Posted July 24, 2009 Author Posted July 24, 2009 Question 1 - when you say "all players scores are added up and an average taken" am I safe in assuming that by average you mean the number of wins per 15 entries? So if 10 non-maezumo people play and collectively they have a score of 50-80-20, the average would NOT be 5.00 (50/10) but 5.77 (50/(50+80) * 15)?Question 2 - no formal rule has been set for kadoban ozeki status. I'm assuming an ozkei would be kadoban if s/he fell below the KK / MK cutoff line. So in the example given above where there was a collective score of 50-80-20 and a 5.77 average, would the cutoff line would be 6 wins and an ozeki would only be kadoban if s/he had 5 wins or fewer? Answer 1: No, it is number of wins per 15 days for eligible players, so in your example, 5 would be taken. Answer 2a): Correct. An Ozeki with a score below the 'KK' result would be kadoban in the subsequent basho. Two successive scores would result in demotion to Sekiwake. A score at (or above) the Ozeki result in the following basho (after such an instance) would see the player repromoted to Ozeki, 'the easy way'. Answer 2b) An average of 5.77 would be rounded to 6 - as would 6.49. In such cases, an Ozeki would be required to get 6 wins to avoid kadoban status for the next basho. I hope this makes things clearer!
Profomisakari Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 At senshuraku - Please! - give him Aminishiki!! Profomisakari
Jakusotsu Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Aminishiki is still (technically) in the yusho race, so needs a suitable senshuraku aite..... Chiyotaikai would seem a good pick, except Taikai has not faced Kakuryu yet.... Hmm, now that you mention it, Chiyotaikai vs. Aminishiki would make totally sense with KK on the line for Taikai and Kakuryu already MK, hmmm...... Nah, I'll stick!
Kofuji Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Day 15 - Miyabiyama seems to be the most logical candidate to me but what do I know ...
Kotoviki Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 I'll also go with Aminishiki! And I hope Kise takes him out for the henka against Kotomitsuki! :-|
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