Asashosakari Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 Normally I only send these to Doitsuyama for inclusion in the DB, but since there's an active thread in this case: at his Kyokai entry Aoiyama's shusshin has been changed from Sofia to ヤンボル (province or city Yambol, by recent practice probably the province).
Sashohitowa Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 Normally I only send these to Doitsuyama for inclusion in the DB, but since there's an active thread in this case: at his Kyokai entry Aoiyama's shusshin has been changed from Sofia to ヤンボル (province or city Yambol, by recent practice probably the province). Province. Daniel is born in Elhovo.
Kuroyama Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Normally I only send these to Doitsuyama for inclusion in the DB, but since there's an active thread in this case: at his Kyokai entry Aoiyama's shusshin has been changed from Sofia to ヤンボル (province or city Yambol, by recent practice probably the province). Province. Daniel is born in Elhovo. Is the default shusshin for foreign rikishi the capital city or something? If I'm hearing correctly, it seems like an awful lot of Mongolian rikishi come from Ulan Bator.
Jakusotsu Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Is the default shusshin for foreign rikishi the capital city or something? If I'm hearing correctly, it seems like an awful lot of Mongolian rikishi come from Ulan Bator. I guess it's whichever airport has a direct flight to Japan.
salle Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Is the default shusshin for foreign rikishi the capital city or something? If I'm hearing correctly, it seems like an awful lot of Mongolian rikishi come from Ulan Bator. Not the case with both Bulgarians. As for Mongols the Mongolain capital Ulan Bator citizens are half the population of the country so it wouldn't be surprise if most or all come from there.
Asashosakari Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Is the default shusshin for foreign rikishi the capital city or something? Quite possibly something like that. They've been making an effort to fix that; I don't have my data with me right now, but Aoiyama was already the third or fourth foreign rikishi with a shusshin change this year. (Shotenro is the only one I remember off-hand.)
Doitsuyama Posted December 15, 2009 Posted December 15, 2009 Is the default shusshin for foreign rikishi the capital city or something? Quite possibly something like that. They've been making an effort to fix that; I don't have my data with me right now, but Aoiyama was already the third or fourth foreign rikishi with a shusshin change this year. (Shotenro is the only one I remember off-hand.) The foreigners Ryukiyama, Shotenro, Tokusegawa, Aoiyama (plus Japanese Sadanoshu and Daitoku) had shusshin changes in 2009.
Kuroyama Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 As for Mongols the Mongolain capital Ulan Bator citizens are half the population of the country so it wouldn't be surprise if most or all come from there. Well, it should. If half the population lives there, one would expect about half the Mongolian rikishi to come from there too. All of them would be too much, absent some other factor.
Andreas Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 Id expect more than half of them to come form the capital, even though its half of the poplation living there, since its more likely that citizens of the capital will have the money and connections to sent their kids to Japan (several Mongolian sumo wrestlers went to Japanese high schools.)
Kintamayama Posted December 24, 2009 Posted December 24, 2009 Just met Daniel on the bus which he takes back to the heya from sumo school everyday. Have to say I'm stunned at the improvement in his Japanese level. In May he could even understand simple sentences. Now he is way ahead of any other foreign rikishi I spoke to at a similar stage. Nice guy too. The NHK TV guys who listened to his yusho interview (the guy doing the interview himself blurted out how good Dan's Japanese had become) in Kyushu were loudly lauding his Japanese skills as well.
Gusoyama Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Just met Daniel on the bus which he takes back to the heya from sumo school everyday. Have to say I'm stunned at the improvement in his Japanese level. In May he could even understand simple sentences. Now he is way ahead of any other foreign rikishi I spoke to at a similar stage. Nice guy too. Lets just hope he doesn't go the way of the last rikishi that you got real friendly with. If he does, I will start wondring about "connections"... ;-)
Pippooshu Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Just met Daniel on the bus which he takes back to the heya from sumo school everyday. Have to say I'm stunned at the improvement in his Japanese level. In May he could even understand simple sentences. Now he is way ahead of any other foreign rikishi I spoke to at a similar stage. Nice guy too. Lets just hope he doesn't go the way of the last rikishi that you got real friendly with. If he does, I will start wondring about "connections"... (Holiday feeling...) I know he is called "the wise" in his Heya! Is it right?
Sashohitowa Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Just met Daniel on the bus which he takes back to the heya from sumo school everyday. Have to say I'm stunned at the improvement in his Japanese level. In May he could even understand simple sentences. Now he is way ahead of any other foreign rikishi I spoke to at a similar stage. Nice guy too. Lets just hope he doesn't go the way of the last rikishi that you got real friendly with. If he does, I will start wondring about "connections"... (Holiday feeling...) I know he is called "the wise" in his Heya! Is it right? He used to be called "The Wise" in Bulgarian National Sumo Team.
kaiguma Posted December 31, 2009 Posted December 31, 2009 Just met Daniel on the bus which he takes back to the heya from sumo school everyday. Have to say I'm stunned at the improvement in his Japanese level. In May he could even understand simple sentences. Now he is way ahead of any other foreign rikishi I spoke to at a similar stage. Nice guy too. Lets just hope he doesn't go the way of the last rikishi that you got real friendly with. If he does, I will start wondring about "connections"... (Holiday feeling...) I know he is called "the wise" in his Heya! Is it right? I swear, I got it form a foreigner in Roppongi!!! Strange, he looked just like Kaiho . . .
Afrozuna Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 18-0 so far, Is Tochiazuma's record under threat anyone? Should be hitting the wall soon
kaiguma Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) 18-0 so far, Is Tochiazuma's record under threat anyone? Should be hitting the wall soon I believe it is at 16 consecutive wins now... I actually didn't realize Tochiazuma's 26 rensho was a record for opening streak. I somehow thought Tosayutaka or someone around that 'era' had far surpassed 26 in a row. Whoever I was thinking of, I guess there were losses sprinkled in there. EDIT: not Tochiazuma's record, unless we are talking about a speed record? Check out Itai's 26 wins from debut. Technically the record is Itai's. Tochiazuma just tied it. And yeah, I could see Aoiyama beating it... Edited January 12, 2010 by kaiguma
Asashosakari Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) I actually didn't realize Tochiazuma's 24 rensho was a record for opening streak. Depends on one's definition of "opening streak" I guess. I'm inclined to not count Tochiazuma's 26 (not 24) since he started his career 0-0-3. In any case, Itai opened with 26 "true start" wins. (The longest lower-division win streak at any time is Tosayutaka's 30, I think.) Edit: Beaten by one minute by the stealth edit... That said, I'd be rather shocked if Aoiyama even goes to three consecutive 7-0, let alone beyond that. Edited January 12, 2010 by Asashosakari
Asashosakari Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 From the "amusing early-career prowess" file: In what was rather unusual for the time, Haru 1998 saw the maezumo debut of two collegiate rikishi (most were making an Ms60 debut due to less stringent tsukedashi rules). Unbeaten in maezumo, both ended up ranked right next to each other on the Natsu banzuke, and consequently they met in their very first professional bout. The guy who won went on to start his career 19-0. The guy who lost bounced back even more strongly and rattled off 22 straight wins after that. Now, who were these future superstars? Daishodai and Furuichi, of course.
yamaneko Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 First loss today to a small, career sandanme, guy. Oh well. Still hasnt faced much stiff competition. I dont know if he will be more Matsuo or kotooshu yet.
KotooshuBS Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Aoyiama ist the best! Edited January 23, 2010 by KotooshuBS
salle Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) Time to revive this old thread or start another one. Aoiyama secured Makushita yusho with 7-0 this time with wins against Makushita regulars. It's great to see he is still not hitting the wall. Great job Daniel! Edited March 26, 2010 by salle
Kotoviki Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 And how fantastic it was to be there!!!! Had talked to him going in & he was really strong minded that he would win!!! I had already prepared his yusho present and was happy I could give it to him! What a wonderful smile he had when he came out to meet me after his match!!! His new rank will be about Makushita 10 for the May basho!
Doitsuyama Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 His new rank will be about Makushita 10 for the May basho! More like Ms7 or so.
Kotoviki Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) The oyakata told him already that he would be about 10. That is what he told me and again later that is what another oyakata told me as well. of course it could all depend on how it goes in the top of makushita in the next two days I guess.. anyway he is expecting about 10. Edited March 26, 2010 by Kotoviki
Asashosakari Posted March 26, 2010 Posted March 26, 2010 (edited) The rule of thumb for a 7-0 in makushita is "old rank divided by 10". They've been a little more conservative of late, but I'd be stunned if he lands outside the Ms4-Ms7 area. of course it could all depend on how it goes in the top of makushita in the next two days I guess.. FWIW, the promotions for 6-1 and 7-0 records tend to be pretty independent of any banzuke "crunches". They always make space for those rikishi, it's the ones who finish 5-2 and 4-3 that suffer from bad banzuke luck. (Random example: 5-2 promotions from Ms38-Ms42, 6-1 promotions from Ms38-Ms42) Edited March 26, 2010 by Asashosakari
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