shimodahito Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 good day sumo friends, are there any web sites that show old drawings/paintings/photos of historic rikishi? i've searched the english sites with no luck and would like some good leads on possible japanese sites. in particular, i'm looking for: Genjiyama - sekiwake in 1758 Onikizake - sekiwake in 1771 Kashiwado - ozeki in 1815 Akitsukaze - ozeki in 1834 Ichinoya - ozeki in 1889 Ayanami - sekiwake in 1891 Chitosegawa - komusubi in 1894 (takasago beya) Chitosegawa - komusubi in 1894 (tatsutayama beya) Genjiyama - sekiwake in 1897 Naminooto - sekiwake in 1907 Ayanami - sekiwake in 1912 Sakuranishiki - komusubi in 1947 any help is greatly appreciated!
Jonosuke Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 There is an annual directory of rikishi published by Sumo Magazine called Ozumo Rikishi Meikan which lists all Makuuchi rikish from 1909 June Basho with their picture. My copy is about five years old but the last three in your list appear there so when I get a bit of time I will scan them for you if you'd like. I recall seeing old sumo paintings exhibited at Sumo Museum in the Kokugikan with Kashiwado and Ichinoya so they should exist somewhere. I also remember seeing Genjiyama (not sure which one however). The rest I cannot tell if they exist.
Asashosakari Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 There is an annual directory of rikishi published by Sumo Magazine called Ozumo Rikishi Meikan which lists all Makuuchi rikish from 1909 June Basho with their picture. My copy is about five years old but the last three in your list appear there so when I get a bit of time I will scan them for you if you'd like. The Tatsutayama-beya Chitosegawa should be in there, too, as he was also active after 1909.
Asashosakari Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 pre-1909 pics... Ayanami (Tokutaro): http://gans01.blog70.fc2.com/blog-entry-185.html Chitosegawa (Masakichi): http://gans01.blog70.fc2.com/blog-entry-223.html Ichinoya (Totaro) x2: http://gans01.blog70.fc2.com/blog-entry-69.html http://gans01.blog70.fc2.com/blog-entry-180.html Genjiyama (Raigoro), early-career while still named Imaizumi Mataichi: http://gans01.blog70.fc2.com/blog-entry-279.html
Jonosuke Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Sekiwake Ayanami Genitsu - Oitekaze/Takasago/Oitekaze Beya Komusubi Sakuranishiki Riiechi - Dewanoumi Beya Sekiwawke Naminooto Kenszo - Takasago beya Komusubi Chitosegawa Kamenosuke - Tatsutayama Beya
shimodahito Posted July 12, 2008 Author Posted July 12, 2008 good day all, oh WOW!!! these are fantastic! super thanks! genjiyama doesn't look very japanese... perhaps ainu? i imagine there are no photos of the earlier guys so i'm thinking there must be paintings/portraits/sketches... i think i recall some of the sumo cards had paintings of the real early superstars of sumo... but i have none to confirm.. again, these are historic gems... (Wearing a paperbag...) -shimodahito
omoimori Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Keep in mind the National Diet Library. (A sort of Japanese equivalent to the US Library of Congress.) The NDL has a lot of photos and digital copies of rare books, many of which are collections of prints. Unfortunately for me, much of the site is Japanese and requires Kanji or a syllabary for facile navigation. undefined And of course, there is one of the true treasures of the internet, the website for the Library of Congress: undefined There's a lot of Japanese stuff if you look for it. For starters, enter in its search box: sumo
omoimori Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Oops, sorry, I left the links unnamed. They do work, though.
Info-Sumo Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 are there any web sites that show old drawings/paintings/photos of historic rikishi? Three years ago there was a special woodblock prints exhibition at the Kokugikan Sumo Museum. I took photos of all of them: 34 "oban" sizes and 3 triptychs You will find them there: Estampes japonaises et sumo Click on thumbs to enlarge photos.
shimodahito Posted July 14, 2008 Author Posted July 14, 2008 good day all, again, WOW!... i'm getting more response than anticipated. these are all great links. and i realize that this might be a better discussion thread when there's no basho. i think i almost got all that i requested and more..... can anyone list the shikona, in english, of the block prints? merci, gracias, bayaraalal, arigato, -shimodahito
shimodahito Posted July 31, 2008 Author Posted July 31, 2008 good day all, now that the tournament is over.... can anyone list the rikishi, in english, shown in the block prints on the info-sumo link? my kanji skills are weak. http://www.info-sumo.net/info/modules.php?...topic&t=942 thanks. -shimodahito
Sasanishiki Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 (edited) OK, these are most of them. I've worked them out through a reasonable knowledge of kanji to enable the search and then through the wonderful Sumoe Reference database (I was stupid...) Top row: Noginosato Nagiemon; Jinmaku Kyuugoro; Chitosegawa Ryuuzou 2nd row: Asakaze Ishinosuke; Komatsuyama Tomikichi; Itadaki Sennosuke 3rd row: Arakuma Ikinosuke; Inazuma Raigoro; Raiden Tameemon 4th row: Musashino Monta: Aioi Matsugorou; Sendagawa Kichizou 5th row: Tanikaze Kajinosuke & Miyagino Nishikinosuke; Asahidake Tsurunosuke; Tsuneyama Gorouji 6th row: Ryougoku Kajinosuke; Ryougoku Kajinosuke; Washigahama Otoemon 7th row: Tamagaki Gakunosuke; ??? ???; Hiodoshi Rikiya 8th row: Onogawa Kisaburou; Unryuu Hisakichi; Yatsugamine Sumiemon 9th row: Taniarashi Ichizou; Okinohama Katsuzou; Hiraiwa Shichidayuu 10th row: Koshigahama Iwagorou; Oonomatsu Midorinosuke; Araiwa Kamenosuke 11th row: Iouzan Moriemon; Kagamiiwa Hamanosuke; Kimigatake Sukesaburou 12th row: Genjiyama Kichidayuu Edited August 4, 2008 by Sasanishiki
Kaiomitsuki Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 (edited) OK, these are most of them. Thank you (I am not worthy...) Edited August 4, 2008 by Kaiomitsuki
Sasanishiki Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 I've updated with a couple more names. There is one remaining and I'm inclined to read it as Oitekaze, but the first name does not match the records. For those reading the kanji, I see six characters: something, something, kaze, matsu, ta, rou. Is that what you get? I'm a little unsure on the matsu character...
Guest Gans Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 OITEKAZE-KITAROU, OZEKI of TENPO era. (but he was substitute-OZEKI for INAZUMA) "OI" and "KI" are kanjis of old style that are rarely used now.
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