Asojima Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 I was one of the two who forgot about poor Tamanoshima...Thanks for the cool stats. And I am the idiot who somehow left out Wakanosato. (Showing respect...) The stats are a great addition.
Asashosakari Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 (edited) According to the GTB selection stats Futeno got hit pretty hard with only 6 players expecting him at M6 or worse. Hakuba / Wakakirin was a close call with 45 having Hakuba and 44 Wakakirin in makuuchi. The other promotions were pretty much expected, Tamanoshima for example had 89 of 91 "votes". More evidence that the unofficial promotion news out of Mongolia are usually accurate... And Futeno ending up behind Toyonoshima was pretty surprising indeed...other than Roho and Dejima (who ended up in a very crunched banzuke area), they were very lenient with the 6-9 records this time. Kakuryu ahead of Tokitenku, Tamakasuga ahead of Kakizoe and Yoshikaze ahead of Hakurozan were also all cases I thought they'd do exactly the other way around. Edited April 24, 2008 by Asashosakari
philafuji Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Ichihara, I still don't know why he couldn't compete last basho. Just because he was unable to take part, why was he demoted all the way down to J11. Something is wrong here. IMO only of course.
Harry Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 According to the GTB selection stats Futeno got hit pretty hard with only 6 players expecting him at M6 or worse. Hakuba / Wakakirin was a close call with 45 having Hakuba and 44 Wakakirin in makuuchi. The other promotions were pretty much expected, Tamanoshima for example had 89 of 91 "votes". More evidence that the unofficial promotion news out of Mongolia are usually accurate... And Futeno ending up behind Toyonoshima was pretty surprising indeed...other than Roho and Dejima (who ended up in a very crunched banzuke area), they were very lenient with the 6-9 records this time. Kakuryu ahead of Tokitenku, Tamakasuga ahead of Kakizoe and Yoshikaze ahead of Hakurozan were also all cases I thought they'd do exactly the other way around. Strange, I'm a Futenou fan but I had him at M7e in my GTB... ah well, first time I played. I almost didn't enter as it is a lot harder than it looks and I almost gave up several times with all the logjams.
Kintamayama Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 Strange, I'm a Futenou fan but I had him at M7e in my GTB... ah well, first time I played. I almost didn't enter as it is a lot harder than it looks and I almost gave up several times with all the logjams. And yet you got a KK in your first basho, which by no means is easy..
Kaikitsune Makoto Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 It is important to comment makushita indeed. Hokutokuni 1 Tosayutaka Hokutokuni is very strong and was 6-9 in his juryo debut. Still powerful wins, good sumo and solid age. He should have good chance to get back in juryo although his foes will be very tough indeed. Tosayutaka has his brilliance but also lacks size and something. Yet, his talent is indisputable and he should become solid sekitori too. Quality Ms1. Yamamotoyama 2 Aran This pair has risen up together and both bring in unique physiques. Aran's top level power athlete's physique is impressive but he had to do his best sumo to get kachi koshi in Haru. Some rather weak wins and was also dominated couple of times during the basho. YMY looked invincible in his 5 wins but I have no idea how he was in his 2 losses. Kintamayama just commented "YMY looked confused in his bout against Kotoyutaka" but that doesn't say much. In any case both Aran and YMV move well and have good horse power and are interesting rikishi so rapid ascension to juryo is recommendable. Kotoyutaka 3 Ryuuhou Kotoyutaka beat YMY and looks physically strong. He isn't that young anymore but has good chance to become Sado's next sekitori. Ryuuhou is also physically strong and a nice test for the surrounding rikishi. Mori 4 Houchiyama Mori creeped up. He was good college rikishi but doesn't really look so stellar in any way. A good basic sumo package without much special points. Would be interesting to see how he could cope with juryo. Houchiyama has had bad back problems and can't generate power. If he was recovered suddenly, it would be yet another solid juryo level rikishi competing at high makushita. Kanbayashi 5 Takakoyama Kanbayashi tries to get it done the easy way and I don't like his sumo one bit. Takakoyama is a classic working horse with heavy body and has done more keiko with Kisenosato than any active rikishi Wakanosato excluded. It is cool to see him approaching the top of makushita. Like Mori he is a real basic sumo package but with more body weight and more oshi. Wakatenrou 6 Shoutenrou Wakatenrou messed up his chance to get promoted to juryo after a long while but finished Haru with two losses ending up at 3-4 at Ms2 so he went down to Ms6 and outside promotion zone. Shoutenrou has been around the neighbourhood for a while. Multifaceted but fujuubun. Yamasaki 7 Hoshikaze I have no idea who is Yamasaki and how he is. No recollections of seeing any of his bouts ever. Hoshikaze is sometimes very angry on the dohyo and has versatile skills. He is close to his all time career high and speaks good Mongolian. Minami 8 Satoyama Minami has had the blessing of curse to fly under the shadows of YMY, Aran and even Ri. He is fat, solid but a bit unproven yet. A rikishi his size and style often hits walls very hard and has limited means to evolve much, especially since he is college rikishi and MBO signs in his mid section. Satoyama is either carrying more than one serious injury or has illness. He has lost his sumo, his power and his brilliance. I don't know what has happened to him. Yoshiazuma 9 Dairaidou Yoshiazuma took a peak into juryo and plummeted back, had shoulder problems and steepened his decline with 1-6 in Hatsu. He bounced back with good 6-1 in Haru and is back is business. He is taller than 99.5% of Japanese men (rough estimation out of the blue sky). Dairaidou the roidbull had his honeymoon in sumo and then became a shadow land wanderer. Started Haru with 4-0 only to fall into 3 bout losing streak. Dairaidou is like the angrier version of Toyohibiki but not quite as strong though. Tokusegawa 10 Kaounishiki Lanky Mongolian is good but so far hasn't bee strong enough for juryo challenge. Kaounishiki is already an entity in makushita and not going anywhere fast. Shimoda 11 Senshou Kokkai and Mori has excellent basho and their heyamate Shimoda had one too. 6-1 took him closer to sensible ranks. 1 year ago or so I made a bet of 100 units of currency with Kintamayama that Shimoda will never get into juryo. I win. Senshou is an unknown Mongolian. Sugita 12 Tamaasuka Sugita has risen back with consecutive kk. He is small, agile and cool. Many women would like to have an encounter with him. Not all rikishi would as he is tremendously slippery when wet. Tamaasuka is a <sigggggh> rikishi who was future sanyaku but ended up as listless makushita. Good Haru basho though... Nakano 13 Ri Ri is improving but has too ready body for his sumo soul. He needs to hone his sumo soul to match his body and he will be formidable. Tools tools and tools but also certain immaturity in his sumo and kind of "oooops...yeah i made a new kind of mistake again" rikishi but that is GOOD. He will improve and utilize. Nakano is not discussed in his preview due to constraints. Daishouyama 14 Soukokurai Daishoyama no more salaried ranks for him. Soukokurai has good tendons and can excel in sumo. Kasugakuni 15 Nakanokuni Kasugakuni has been thrown around by Kasugao undoubtedly hundreds of times. Nakanokuni may watch Olympics on TV. Juumonji 16 Kirinoumi Juumonji retires soon. Kirinoumi does what Kirinoumi does. Kotokuni 17 Matsutani Fukuoka 18 Hayasegawa Daimanazuru 19 Shiratsuka Asahisakari 20 Tamarikidou I have to go to run errands and return books to library. Also soon I must install MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR and fly to NARITA and other airports with a jumbojet. Last comments: Daimanazuru no more juryo, Shiratsuka not so impressive in the bouts I have seen from him. Tamarikido soon SUIT for real and not just in imaginary world. Be well
Kintamayama Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 Yamamotoyama 2 AranYMY looked invincible in his 5 wins but I have no idea how he was in his 2 losses. Kintamayama just commented "YMY looked confused in his bout against Kotoyutaka" but that doesn't say much. No I did not. I said Kotoyutaka came from the side and that was that. YMY wasn't sure where exactly his opponent was and it was over. Coming from the side against the mountains is the number one viable technique a much Zippo (lighter) opponent has.
Jejima Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 According to the GTB selection stats I'm going (Showing respect...) These stats for GTB are great! Would it be possible to add another column for the rikishi's previous rank and record? (If I were being really greedy, I might also ask for another column showing how many places they have moved up or down.)
Doitsuyama Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 According to the GTB selection stats I'm going (Showing respect...) These stats for GTB are great! Would it be possible to add another column for the rikishi's previous rank and record? (If I were being really greedy, I might also ask for another column showing how many places they have moved up or down.) It certainly is possible, but too much work to do that. I like to do other Sumo Reference related tasks instead.
Jejima Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) It certainly is possible, but too much work to do that. I like to do other Sumo Reference related tasks instead. Of course! Keep up the great work! (On the banzuke...) I think Sumo Reference has to be one of the greatest things in the sumo fan world today. (Showing respect...) Edit: I put in all the capital letters. Edited April 25, 2008 by Jejima
Kintamayama Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) With a kiss this time: Edited April 25, 2008 by Kintamayama
HenryK Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 According to the GTB selection stats I'm going (Showing respect...) These stats for GTB are great! Would it be possible to add another column for the rikishi's previous rank and record? (If I were being really greedy, I might also ask for another column showing how many places they have moved up or down.) It certainly is possible, but too much work to do that. I like to do other Sumo Reference related tasks instead. Like...... including the strenght ratings....? (Band playing...) (On the banzuke...) (You're work is sometimes too valuable for your own good, I suppose....)
Peterao Posted May 18, 2008 Posted May 18, 2008 Sorry, I was out of the loop. Can anyone tell me why Shimootori went back to being Shimotori (with the same Shimootori kanji) again?
Kintamayama Posted May 18, 2008 Author Posted May 18, 2008 Sorry, I was out of the loop. Can anyone tell me why Shimootori went back to being Shimotori (with the same Shimootori kanji) again? Probably a luck thing. We never know these things for sure because they usually don't talk about the reasons in public, but I guess the Shimoooooootori change did not do him any good after all.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now