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9 hours ago, Amamaniac said:

Miki-san reviews the Endo-v-Myogiryu bout on Day 8 of the Nagoya Tournament.  An interesting look at the skills of sumo wrestlers and the considerations made by gyoji.

http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0004591153

Yeah right. Not a word about stubbornly refusing to get any real treatment on a very real injury. Not in general terms, but specifically, in Endou terms. And will somebody please explain to me what this sentence means? "In the world of sumo, it is traditionally thought that not knowing when to give up is the ugliest thing." So Ichinojou is doing it right after all?  I give up.

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11 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

And will somebody please explain to me what this sentence means? "In the world of sumo, it is traditionally thought that not knowing when to give up is the ugliest thing." So Ichinojou is doing it right after all?  I give up.

I suppose that you want us to know that you know when to give up? ;-)

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8 hours ago, Amamaniac said:

I suppose that you want us to know that you know when to give up? ;-)

Sorry, I still don’t understand what that sentence means, as it seems to me in direct contrast to everything fundamental in sumo. How does that relate to Kisenosato, for instance?

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2 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Sorry, I still don’t understand what that sentence means, as it seems to me in direct contrast to everything fundamental in sumo. How does that relate to Kisenosato, for instance?

Perhaps she means it in a career sense rather than day to day. A aging rikishi has traditionally been expected to bow out gracefully rather than fight on below their previous level. Watching old sumo documentaries I’ve often been surprised how willingly guys retired after a couple of defeats even when it seemed like just a blip (Wajima, for instance). You don’t see that so much these days. We see Terunofuji fall to Makushita instead.

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4 hours ago, Eikokurai said:

Perhaps she means it in a career sense rather than day to day. A aging rikishi has traditionally been expected to bow out gracefully rather than fight on below their previous level. Watching old sumo documentaries I’ve often been surprised how willingly guys retired after a couple of defeats even when it seemed like just a blip (Wajima, for instance). You don’t see that so much these days. We see Terunofuji fall to Makushita instead.

Wajima retired so he could take over as Hanakago Oyakata. Hanakago was about to turn 65. Wajima also married Hanakago's daughter. I believe she attempted suicide. 

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7 minutes ago, Bumpkin said:

Wajima retired so he could take over as Hanakago Oyakata. Hanakago was about to turn 65. Wajima also married Hanakago's daughter. I believe she attempted suicide. 

He could have done that three bouts earlier and retired on a 10-5 winning record. It’s not as if Hanakago’s impending birthday was a surprise.

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1 minute ago, Eikokurai said:

He could have done that three bouts earlier and retired on a 10-5 winning record. It’s not as if Hanakago’s impending birthday was a surprise.

True. However, I'm sure a lot of things were going on behind the scenes.

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...the Isenoumi stable for example — don’t accept any foreign or college recruits.

Which makes me wonder how Tosanoumi got there, unless that policy was established after Kitakachidoki took the helm.

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54 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Which makes me wonder how Tosanoumi got there, unless that policy was established after Kitakachidoki took the helm.

Not to mention Hattori, also a Doshisha University graduate.

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Japan Times seems to have joined the long list of blocked websites in China now, making it more and more difficult for me to read its sumo articles. :(

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Oh wow I did not know about the fairly recent Jakarta tour before the article! How come I did not hear any of it at the time? Looked like it was a sucessful tour too judging from the photos and old news articles I googled.

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