madorosumaru Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 We all know where YDC member Makiko Uchidate stands when it comes to Asashoryu. Although the Committee decided not to make a recommendation, as a group, regarding Asashoryu's future at its last hastily-summoned meeting, Uchidate made her position clear in a statement yesterday. "I think it would be better if he announced his intai," she said. "He can pave his own path [with dignity]. The sooner he holds a press conference and retire, the better. I feel he has done enough [wrongs] to warrant that." The yokozuna is still hiding behind the well-guarded confines of Dream Land in Mongolia. He has still not gone to the hot springs for treatment--the ostensible purpose of his trip back home. Takasago Oyakata has not received any recent reports of his activities. Since Muhammad refuses to go to the mountain, a possible alternative is to bring the mountain to Muhammad. Takasago said, "I think there is a plan to bring the [therapeutic] mud from the spa to where he is staying." Uchidate is totally disgusted. "What he has been doing is so unmanly," she blasted. "I'd like him not to put [further] blemish to the end of his career." Can I roll my eyes any higher?
Ikh Mongol Dagvadorj Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) Uchidate is totally disgusted. "What he has been doing is so unmanly," she blasted. "I'd like him not to put [further] blemish to the end of his career." What is unmanly of Asa with getting therapy in his homeland? I guess problem is with her. What is her problem? Even when Asa is out there, these type of people still having grudge against him for that Asa won his stand "1st round" Asa is in Mongolia, getting better/healing the emotional wounds and restoring himself physically (started exercising) b...ch +1. that one does look like Edited September 12, 2007 by Ikh Mongol Dagvadorj
ilovesumo Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Uchidate is totally disgusted. "What he has been doing is so unmanly," she blasted. "I'd like him not to put [further] blemish to the end of his career." What is unmanly of Asa with getting therapy in his homeland? I guess problem is with her. What is her problem? Even when Asa is out there, these type of people still having grudge against him for that Asa won his stand "1st round" Asa is in Mongolia, getting better/healing the emotional wounds and restoring himself physically (started exercising) b...ch +1. that one does look like Guys, forget about the B-word...please. I also thought she is complaining all the time about him and so on, but what do you think is her "job" as a member of YDC? And now that the situation is like it is, what else should she say? She likes Sumo very much and she doesn't want it "to get hurt" more and more. When somebody beats your dog, wouldn't you tell him to stop? Scandals are bad for Sumo as a whole as for Ryu as one person. His soul is hurt as well. He went to mongolia to get out of this permanent stalking by the press but is still a prisoner...he can't hide as long as the scandal goes, so he can't come back to normal mode. How could he. It would be nice if the whole scandal would just be forgotten on 1. of January- hey, new year, new beginning, and he could start again........but that won't happen. Japan waits for him apologizing on his knees...without that, no future-that's the rules... and it took so long already...the longer it takes, the louder the voices...
Jonosuke Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) Actually Ms Uchidate acknowledges that the major part of blame should go to Takasago oyakata. She said she and her colleagues have been complaining about the yokozuna's behavior for a long time and each time the committee as a whole requested to his shisho more supervision and coaching but their request was never followed up. Her point is that now we have come to this situation where the shisho and Kyokai have Asashoryu pretty much left free to roam around, there is not much they can do or say now. Asashoryu is not talking to his shisho personally and the oyakata still has to rely on a third party to get any information so there is no shisho and deshi relationship left, they have come to the end of the road. But no one should have to worry about Ms Uchidate as she is only one voice in the committee and she has a limited term to serve while Asashoryu can outlast her if he so desires. I am sure the Kyokai executives don't make the same mistake in appointing a similar person again. Edited September 12, 2007 by Jonosuke
ilovesumo Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 I am sure the Kyokai executives don't make the same mistake in appointing a similar person again. ? A person like Ms Uchidate or Asashoryu? (Clapping wildly...)
Kotonosato Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 I am sure the Kyokai executives don't make the same mistake in appointing a similar person again. ? A person like Ms Uchidate or Asashoryu? (Clapping wildly...) I was wondering the same thing, Jonosuke. As far as I know, no member of the YDC has done as much to promote sumo than Uchidate has. I'm sure the other old fogies are sumo fans, but she spent her whole life stdying and writing about it. Maybe everyone on the YDC should be a "similar person".
Kaiomitsuki Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Can I roll my eyes any higher? It seems that Mrs Uchidate and Phil Spector have the same hairdresser (Clapping wildly...)
paolo Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 At least Ms. Uchidate has a great merit in my eyes: she says what she thinks !
Sasanishiki Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I was thinking along the lines of Nishi. Speaking your mind in Japan makes you a stirrer and often puts you on teh outer. I would actually argue that she is as much of a renegade as Asashoryu - oh the irony!!
Jakusotsu Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 ...or perhaps what she says isn't what she really thinks. Would that make her less renegade? :-)
Jonosuke Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 (edited) Basically she said if he were in the corporate world, he would have been gone long ago. She said he would have probably got the person out if someone in his ASA Group company did the same. One thing you can say about her, she has been always consistent in her view and persistent. She knows more about sumo history and culture than any one of us here and certainly the most passionate member of YDC. She never fails to attend their Soken and comes to the Kokugikan on at least one day of every Tokyo basho. She is a type of screen writers who excel in the damsel in distress and the knight in the shining armor mode so you must understand where she is coming from. "A man will look cooler when he will go on to build his own Hanamichi with grace," she said. Edited September 13, 2007 by Jonosuke
Otokonoyama Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 A poster on another forum on another topic wrote something that resonates (altered slightly to fit sumo): ...I've always maintained that Japan is basically a land of mutual suffering and the only way they can solve any issue is by denial, apology and suicide. Therefore, Asa going having a breakdown makes perfect sense.1) Everyone can commisurate with an illness (mutual suffering) 2) Doctor & spa is basically the same as denial - ' I can't/couldn't perform because I was sick' You wait - his next statement will be an 'apology' to the Japanese people. Then, if we're lucky, followed by a trip to submit papers.
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