The worst pizza in the world

[Coo-cook]

Incidentally, Mongolia may be a nice place to visit in many ways, but I have it from a reliable source that Ulaanbataar has the worst pizza in the world.

Don't go to Mongolia .....it's not a place for pizza and sushi eaters and wine drinkers.

Probably your reliable sourse did eat a pizza with mutton topings......and almost died from vomiting.

For me, mutton pizza is something different and quite tasty,actually.

Edited August 20, 2007 by Coo-cook

[Peterao]

Incidentally, Mongolia may be a nice place to visit in many ways, but I have it from a reliable source that Ulaanbataar has the worst pizza in the world.

Don't go to Mongolia .....it's not a place for pizza and sushi eaters and wine drinkers.

Probably your reliable sourse did eat a pizza with mutton topings......and almost died from vomiting.

Perhaps...but if the Mongolians don't put mayonnaise on it, then they have no right to the title of worst pizza in the world.

[Kuroyama]

Perhaps...but if the Mongolians don't put mayonnaise on it, then they have no right to the title of worst pizza in the world.

This was a friend of mine who was taking an extended tour several months long through a number of Chinese provinces and Mongolia. As it's common wisdom that the versions of East Asian ethnic foods we get in the US isn't much like what's eaten in East Asia, he thought he'd see if the reverse was true. For this experiment he had to select a Western dish that he might reasonably expect to find represented just about anywhere, and pizza was his choice. So whenever he found himself in an urban center, he made an effort to sample the local pizza. Ulaanbataar had the worst of all of them. That which he was served there consisted of:

1. A soggy flatbread
   
2. Spread with tomato ketchup from a squeeze bottle
   
3. Topped with Cheez Whiz, or the locally equivalent processed-cheese-food-in-a-spray-can
   
4. Served cold.
   

Neither mutton nor mayonnaise could have made it any worse, IMO.

Edited August 20, 2007 by Kuroyama

[Arslan]

Perhaps...but if the Mongolians don't put mayonnaise on it, then they have no right to the title of worst pizza in the world.

This was a friend of mine who was taking an extended tour several months long through a number of Chinese provinces and Mongolia. As it's common wisdom that the versions of East Asian ethnic foods we get in the US isn't much like what's eaten in East Asia, he thought he'd see if the reverse was true. For this experiment he had to select a Western dish that he might reasonably expect to find represented just about anywhere, and pizza was his choice. So whenever he found himself in an urban center, he made an effort to sample the local pizza. Ulaanbataar had the worst of all of them. That which he was served there consisted of:

1. A soggy flatbread
   
2. Spread with tomato ketchup from a squeeze bottle
   
3. Topped with Cheez Whiz, or the locally equivalent processed-cheese-food-in-a-spray-can
   
4. Served cold.
   

Neither mutton nor mayonnaise could have made it any worse, IMO.

What's the main idea of these posts? Mongolia is the worst country and Mongolians are the worst people because the pizza made in UB is crap?

[Bataa]

Wow so much has happened since i last visited.I hope Asa's gonna be okay, take the punishment like a man and continue in january stronger than ever.

Anyways Arslan take it easy man,I'm sure none of the forum members meant anything to discredit Mongolia or Mongolian hisory as they are well aware of how sensitive our nationalistic idealsm can get. (Shaking head...)

PS, we do have some crappy pizza back in Ulanbator but that doesnt mean thats all the pizza we have.Different restaurants have different standards and so are their pizzas.

The one Kuroyama has mentioned is probably the crappiest it can get

[Jejima]

Everyone knows England is the worst country....

Sorry, I'm guessing (hoping) this is meant as a joke, but I would prefer not to see it in an international forum.

(Bouncing of excitement...)

[Coo-cook]

Incidentally, Mongolia may be a nice place to visit in many ways, but I have it from a reliable source that Ulaanbataar has the worst pizza in the world.

Don't go to Mongolia .....it's not a place for pizza and sushi eaters and wine drinkers.

Probably your reliable sourse did eat a pizza with mutton topings......and almost died from vomiting.

Perhaps...but if the Mongolians don't put mayonnaise on it, then they have no right to the title of worst pizza in the world.

No,...my point was how people are so narrow minded sometimes....I used to know one Canadian guy who couldn't find a peanut butter in Mongolia and made very big deal out of it (a peanut butterless country, unimaginable and very shoking for him)....

It's same with Asa's issue...some people are making too much of a big deal out of it (Asa is a symbol of friendship,....Asa has brought nothing but shame to Sumo and dishonored the Yokozuna title ..etc,etc)

[Jejima]

I think you're missing my point Nishi.

By taking a dig at England, you are assuming that all reading know about the relationship between Ireland and England. You are also assuming that all understand the Irish sense of humour / English sense of humour etc. You know that, you could probably make the same comment face-to-face with any English member of this list, and we wouldn't take offence (even if we'd never met you previously).

Unfortunately on an international forum such as we have, not everyone knows this 'back-story', and such a comment could be misunderstood as being intentionally 'racist'.

Edit: (Oops!) I think I was a bit quick to react. Apologies to John.

Edited August 21, 2007 by Jejima

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

There is something fun in not using any emoticons and throwing in a bomb in a discussion and sit back and see if it explodes. Surely that is also the method of many trolls but it can't be denied that it can be fun in some twisted way. Sometimes some group's opinions and stance is so biased or illogical or simply paranoid that throwing a little bomb and watch what happens has certain attraction. I dare to claim that majority of Mongolian members seem to be very very sensitive about their country, they also see it as solid fact that Asashoryu is treated like this because he is Mongolian. No counter argument sinks in, no acceptance of opposite reasoning, almost like fundamentalist religious wackos in this sense. If Mongolian members (not all) think that Japan has insulted Mongolia or Asashoryu and is vile towards him, that way of thinking is equally insulting to Japanese people and society. Even if you'd be right in your radical view that Asashoryu's treatment is due to flagrant racism, your generalization is as big a sin. Then considering that your view is simply not right, you are now insulting Japan and generalizing them in a very nasty way. And you wanted me to apologize for that "isn't that very vulgar and uncivilized sport?"-bomb! Fundamentalist views annoy me. Fujisan I can handle as his views are not directed towards a bunch of people but when fundamentalism attacks another nation/group whatever, then it is nasty habit. Wouldn't marry a fundamentalist like that.

Comments like "England is the worst country" would be completely ridiculous if stated seriously and ridiculous comments could be ignored I would think? Even if someone would think Nishinoshima is genuinely attacking England with such statement, the statement would be so silly that it would undermine his reputation or credibility really. Reminds me of the total , completely insanely idiotic American golf audience morons who thought it was businesslike and appropriate to scold some French player in Ryder cup or so when France and US had the biggest tension due to the Iraq thing and all. How amazingly stupid can people get? And this in a game that is known to be a gentlemen's sport....I can understand a bit less idiotic "Screw you France! We will call French fries Freedom fries from now on!"-demonstrations as that was kind of general thing but to attack some French athlete on AMerican soil using the international dispute as weapon is so amazingly ignorant, idiotic and insulting it is difficult to put in words.

Every country has a lot of crap and lot of good. Only Sweden is perfect.

[Coo-cook]

There is something fun in not using any emoticons and throwing in a bomb in a discussion and sit back and see if it explodes. Surely that is also the method of many trolls but it can't be denied that it can be fun in some twisted way. Sometimes some group's opinions and stance is so biased or illogical or simply paranoid that throwing a little bomb and watch what happens has certain attraction. I dare to claim that majority of Mongolian members seem to be very very sensitive about their country, they also see it as solid fact that Asashoryu is treated like this because he is Mongolian. No counter argument sinks in, no acceptance of opposite reasoning, almost like fundamentalist religious wackos in this sense. If Mongolian members (not all) think that Japan has insulted Mongolia or Asashoryu and is vile towards him, that way of thinking is equally insulting to Japanese people and society. Even if you'd be right in your radical view that Asashoryu's treatment is due to flagrant racism, your generalization is as big a sin. Then considering that your view is simply not right, you are now insulting Japan and generalizing them in a very nasty way. And you wanted me to apologize for that "isn't that very vulgar and uncivilized sport?"-bomb! Fundamentalist views annoy me. Fujisan I can handle as his views are not directed towards a bunch of people but when fundamentalism attacks another nation/group whatever, then it is nasty habit. Wouldn't marry a fundamentalist like that.

Comments like "England is the worst country" would be completely ridiculous if stated seriously and ridiculous comments could be ignored I would think? Even if someone would think Nishinoshima is genuinely attacking England with such statement, the statement would be so silly that it would undermine his reputation or credibility really. Reminds me of the total , completely insanely idiotic American golf audience morons who thought it was businesslike and appropriate to scold some French player in Ryder cup or so when France and US had the biggest tension due to the Iraq thing and all. How amazingly stupid can people get? And this in a game that is known to be a gentlemen's sport....I can understand a bit less idiotic "Screw you France! We will call French fries Freedom fries from now on!"-demonstrations as that was kind of general thing but to attack some French athlete on AMerican soil using the international dispute as weapon is so amazingly ignorant, idiotic and insulting it is difficult to put in words.

Every country has a lot of crap and lot of good. Only Sweden is perfect.

Now, suddenly we have a Finnish pastor named Kaikitsune. Oh well,......it seems you are growing up a little....only you would stop that 'Mongolian members" crap. We are as divers as the Finnish can be.

Being a good son-in law is a difficult job, huh?

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

Now, suddenly we have a Finnish pastor named Kaikitsune. Oh well,......it seems you are growing up a little....only you would stop that 'Mongolian members" crap. We are as divers as the Finnish can be.

Being a good son-in law is a difficult job, huh?

Mongolian sumoforum members I can think of are mostly like that. Generalization perhaps but like I wrote, there are exceptions. It is a small sample though so yes you are right about that and I have NEVER said that Mongolians in general in Mongolia think this way about the Asa vs Japan issue but here on forum we don't have so many Mongolians members so out of that bunch, the majority is preaching this racism/they want rid of him!-thing. I am sure you are diverse in MOngolia like people are in FInland and like people are in Japan. Hence saying things like "Japanese hate Asashoryu and want to get rid of him because he is foreign yokozuna in their national sport" is exactly that sinful bundleing up Japanese.

I did not understand that son-in-law comment.

[Jonosuke]

No that title goes to Papua New Guinea. Why? Because one of it's islands which goes by the name of "New Ireland" started a tourist campaign last year with a tagline of (I kid you not) "New Ireland....much better than the old one"

But the campaign sounds pretty catchy.

I think I could use it in somewhere...

Anyway they are probably claiming the same thing about New Britain too but I haven't heard a peep from Jeez yet.

The place is a picture perfect paradise until you learn about the history from a Japanese point of view....

Anyway I may even drop by there as I am thinking of going to Rabaul one day...I have my own sentimental reason there.

Edited August 20, 2007 by Jonosuke

[Gusoyama]

True enough Jeez if this was some wide open forum with hundreds or thousands coming and going but the Sumoforum is like some crazy family and I think 90% of the people here know me well enough to not take half of what I say seriously.

Anyway for the other 10% let me officialy state I do not think England is the worst country.

No that title goes to Papua New Guinea. Why? Because one of it's islands which goes by the name of "New Ireland" started a tourist campaign last year with a tagline of (I kid you not) "New Ireland....much better than the old one"

Hey, they stole that from us New Englanders. (Neener, neener...) Having been here before, Nishi, you'll be quite aware that us New Englanders think we're better than anyone else. After all, we proclaim Boston as "The Hub of the Universe". Doesn't get much more arrogant than that. (On the banzuke...)

[Otokonoyama]

Nishinoshima has been trying various approaches - grumpy attack mode / witty ironic mode

Thanks to Randomitsuki I've just realised that I am suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder and will now petition my company to allow me return to Ireland so that I can refresh myself by taking baths of hot Guinness and playing soccer with kids.

Of course when I say playing soccer with kids I mean using them as the ball. They tend to be useless once you score two or three goals with them though.

Some sort of revenge for the biting and arm-busting?