Sumo Reference Updates

[torquato]

Thanks, it's in the DB now.

Indeed. Wow. I now feel like being promoted to mmm... let's say sanyaku? ;)

A greenhorn like me spots out a tiny little trivium and the experts are running and fixing THE reference databank.

Anyway, at least, this proves that this appears to be the right place to address such stuff.

Edited May 25, 2014 by torquato

[Asashosakari]

Anyway, at least, this proves that this appears to be the right place to address such stuff.

I'd say posting DB error reports here is fine, often people other than Doitsuyama (like in this case, me) are responsible for creating those errors ;-) so it's helpful to have things out in the open.

While I'm at it, one that's an outright bug: Should be Nagao, the Kyokai's original "Nago" misspelling of his real name has somehow crept into the shikona field during maezumo (in both languages).

Edited May 25, 2014 by Asashosakari

[Asashosakari]

On a completely different subject: Can the DB support Vimeo links? The bout video embeds look a bit bare these days by ending at juryo.

Side issue: Even if it's possible, should this actually be added? I'd rather not want araibira to lose his Vimeo repository, too. But I really don't have a handle on how much additional (negative) exposure the DB embeds create.

Edited May 25, 2014 by Asashosakari

[Raishu]

I'd say posting DB error reports here is fine, sometimes other people (like in this case, me) are involved in creating those errors ;-) so it's helpful to have things out in the open.

@ Doitsuyama: About a week ago I tried to send you a PM on this forum (didn't work) and on the German forum as well (message still listed in my outbox folder - not under sent items) without a reply.

The message comprehends some missing height/weight data, spelling errors, and other peanuts (+ sources for double checking) which might be of interest.

Did you recieve that PM?

If not, shall I post my findings in this thread as Asashosakari suggests?

Or generally asking: Are you interested in recieving such mails? I mean, you surely have other stuff to do apart from taking care of the DB and I don't want to flood your inbox unnecessarily. :-)

[Fukurou]

I don't know who to contact about this directly so I'll put it here. At the end of the basho, all other makuuchi wrestlers appear to read correctly but Goeido is stuck at 6-7 and Kotoshogiku at 5-9, neither of which equal 15. I think those are the only two, in makuuchi at least.

On the banzuke page, right? The yusho, jun-yusho and sansho information is also missing (but maybe this is normal and just takes a bit of time to update, i don't know.)

You're talking about sumo reference, yes? Down in Makushita, the banzuke page shows Shosei as being 3-3-1, but his basho record page (the one you get when you click on a rikishi's record for a particular basho) shows him as 4-3 (which is correct)

Edited May 25, 2014 by Fukurou

[Tamanaogijima]

I'm about a year behind in digging up the "small stuff" changes (first names, hometowns etc.) and sending them to Doitsuyama, Sadanoumi's name is probably one that's been changed somewhat recently. I'll try to get to it in the upcoming intra-basho period, the backlog has started to annoy me myself lately.

(Tamanaogijima, I hope you're still collecting the printed banzuke - I think I missed my Kyushu or Hatsu download so I'll need your assistance in assigning some changes again.)

Of course I do, the archive is still growing and just recently had to buy a second box for them :-)

Which reminds me, I also have some updates that I should send him...

[Gurowake]

Jonidan division goes down to #101 to include Sakai and Higohikari. At the moment the DB goes down to only #100 and those two rikishi are banzuke gai.

This happened again for Nagoya. One of the rikishi is even the same!

[Asashosakari]

The familiar issue with fusen results not being marked correctly has cropped up again:

Daiisshin - Hokuyozakura

Imaizumi - Otaki

[Gurowake]

Similar to something that was far more widespread last basho, the Takekaze - Kakuryu bout result was entered but was somehow not picked up for display in the rikishi's record.

[Asashosakari]

Similar to something that was far more widespread last basho, the Takekaze - Kakuryu bout result was entered but was somehow not picked up for display in the rikishi's record.

Aoiyama-Endo and Chiyotairyu-Gagamaru on senshuraku now, too.

Also more fusen problems:

Sadanohana - Daishohama

Kototsubasa - Obamaumi

Urutora - Tomiyama

[Gurowake]

I saw this while looking at the new recruits doing well. It might be related to the fusen thing above? Kimarite listed as fusen, black square in the table, but black circle in the hoshitori and not shown as a [-1] in head-to-head record. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=12124&b=201403

Edited September 18, 2014 by Gurowake

[Asashosakari]

Ran into a weird data error just now - this guy used his real name of Ozeki (with short o) as his shikona for two periods of his career, but the hiragana read おざき Ozaki.

[Asashosakari]

Toyonoshima's record is missing the 3 yasumi right now.

[specialweek 2]

This might not be the right place to post but what does the small triangle refer to when both rikishi have it in the result against each other 100 years ago?

[Randomitsuki]

This might not be the right place to post but what does the small triangle refer to when both rikishi have it in the result against each other 100 years ago?

The triangle stands for a draw. There are various "kimarite" for draws, like azukari (too close to call), hikiwake (bout took so long that rikishi were exhausted), and itamiwake (rikishi got injured during the bout).

Edit: there is a fourth type of draw (mushoubu). It's significance is so shrouded in mystery that it's not even listed in the forum glossary. Does anybody actually has an idea when and why mushoubu was called?

Edited September 27, 2014 by Randomitsuki

[specialweek 2]

This might not be the right place to post but what does the small triangle refer to when both rikishi have it in the result against each other 100 years ago?

The triangle stands for a draw. There are various "kimarite" for draws, like azukari (too close to call), hikiwake (bout took so long that rikishi were exhausted), and itamiwake (rikishi got injured during the bout).

Edit: there is a fourth type of draw (mushoubu). It's significance is so shrouded in mystery that it's not even listed in the forum glossary. Does anybody actually has an idea when and why mushoubu was called?

I always thought the little a and little d referred to a draw.

[Sumozumo]

This might not be the right place to post but what does the small triangle refer to when both rikishi have it in the result against each other 100 years ago?

The triangle stands for a draw. There are various "kimarite" for draws, like azukari (too close to call), hikiwake (bout took so long that rikishi were exhausted), and itamiwake (rikishi got injured during the bout).

Edit: there is a fourth type of draw (mushoubu). It's significance is so shrouded in mystery that it's not even listed in the forum glossary. Does anybody actually has an idea when and why mushoubu was called?

It seems like its not a draw, but just a no-call strike from the record.

My Japanese is very bad and I'm having trouble with this つけられそうもない微妙な取組の場合

In this wikipedia article:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%84%A1%E5%8B%9D%E8%B2%A0_(%E7%9B%B8%E6%92%B2)

[Randomitsuki]

I always thought the little a and little d referred to a draw.

a and d are used for the record, but the triangle for the hoshitori.

In the link below you can see both the records and the hoshitori for the last draw (hikiwake in 1974, look for M6e and M10w:

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=197409&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&ho=on

[specialweek 2]

I always thought the little a and little d referred to a draw.

a and d are used for the record, but the triangle for the hoshitori.

In the link below you can see both the records and the hoshitori for the last draw (hikiwake in 1974, look for M6e and M10w:

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=197409&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&ho=on

The one I was looking up was Ryogoku and Kantamago the last shinnyumaku to win a Yusho.

[Asashosakari]

Edit: there is a fourth type of draw (mushoubu). It's significance is so shrouded in mystery that it's not even listed in the forum glossary. Does anybody actually has an idea when and why mushoubu was called?

Ahem. :-)

[Itachiyama]

I've many pics and Tegata of Rikishi for uploading. Who can help me with this?

[Doitsuyama]

Anyone can send pictures for missing rikishi to me. They should be named nnnn.jpg with nnnn the rikishi ID (you can see this one in the page url), and the size shouldn't be bigger than 480 pixel in height and width.

Tegata are welcome too of course, with the name tegatannnn.jpg (nnnn the same number as above), and size 200*200 pixel.

[Gurowake]

Very tiny bug/lack of feature:

If you do a banzuke query and group the results by rikishi/basho, expand them to the details and end up with more pages than the summary, move to the last page, then move back to the summary which fits on less pages, you will be presented with no data and links that goes back to other pages that have data. I would think that the appropriate behavior when switching from expanded back to summary would be to show you the first page of results; resummarizing the data will almost always change the number of pages if you're dealing with a query where you're wanting to sort by rikishi/basho, so staying on the same numbered page makes little sense.

[Gurowake]

Here's another weird thing I found: when you hit the check-box to show "highest rank" in a banzuke query, what gets shown in that column for each rikishi is the highest rank of the rikishi as of the first basho of the query. This probably isn't what most people want to see if they check that box. I don't have any good suggestions as to which of the more reasonable options it should be, but I had hoped that it was lifetime highest rank of the rikishi.

[Senkoho]

I had hoped that it was lifetime highest rank of the rikishi.

YES!