Sumo Reference Updates

[Asashosakari]

58 minutes ago, Hakumadashi said:

I tried to search Sumodb for the latest cases of [draws] and found this https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Results.aspx?b=195703&d=1 (the last bout on the page)

Was there a rule that Makushita rikishi fighting in Juryo got a hikiwake when "losing" the bout? Or is this a sumodb error? Did they just always get a hikiwake? (Surely not, that would make Yaocho incredibly incentivised...)

Some gremlins have got into the data here. Specifically:

Ms2e Tamakaze 0-0-1 (3-3-2) yorikiri 0-1 (1-1) J23w Notonoyama 1-0 (9-6)

The draw marker makes no sense for Tamakaze here, should be a regular loss. In addition, neither his hoshitori nor his total record appear to be correct:

Day 1 yorikiri J23w Notonoyama 1-0 (9-6) 0-1   Day 13 kotenage J19e Tsugaruumi 1-12 (3-12) 1-0

That Day 1 bout doesn't appear on there in any way. Gans (site currently down, link goes to archive.org) shows Tamakaze's score as 4-4, with that additional Day 1 loss in the hoshitori as well as an additional win on Day 12 - prior to the second juryo visit which constituted his eighth and final appearance of the tournament. That makes sense as the "rounds" of makushita matches were on Days 12/13 and Days 14/15 in those days. The 4-4 overall score also agrees better with his subsequent banzuke movement:

Result	East	Next	Rank	West	Result	Next
5-3 ↑	Tatsumusashi	J22e	Ms1	Matsuba	3-5	Ms4e
3-3-2	Tamakaze	Ms1e	Ms2	Itsutsugata	4-4	Ms1w

[Asashosakari]

A Nikkan article about Aonishiki's time training with the Kansai University sumo club mentions that Chisatoiwa was a second Kansai graduate to join ozumo (after sekiwake and yusho winner Yamanishiki). Confirmed by the club's own web presence (1959 entry).

And it made me wonder if the (unconfirmed) Chisatoiwa reading of his shikona 千里岩 might be wrong. Kansai University has a campus called Senriyama 千里山, whose name appears to be taken from a Senriyama mountain - however, apparently that mountain's name used to be read Chisatoyama, which long ago gave its name to a (no longer independently existing) village named Chisatoyama, which is the area in which today's Senriyama campus is located. So, clear as mud, and on a quick search I haven't been able to turn up any concrete information about which reading the guy's shikona was using, Chisato or Senri. Maybe somebody else can find something.

[Asashosakari]

On 26/02/2025 at 22:38, Asashosakari said:

For Seihakuho his basho in maezumo is not marked as a new division high (unlike every other foreigner).

This issue has popped up again with Tatsubayama, Tenshoyama and Asahifuji (see query link in quote).

[Asashosakari]

Sorting a query by the "Highest Rank" column (when it's displayed) is currently broken whenever more than one basho column is shown.

Works: https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&showhighest=on&form1_year=202501&columns=1&sort_by=high
Doesn't: https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&showhighest=on&form1_year=202501&columns=2&sort_by=high

[Asashosakari]

On 18/12/2025 at 04:32, Kaitetsu said:

Former maegashira Komafudo passed away on the 15th due to heart failure, he was 60 years old. (via Nikkan Sports)

So that's apparently a long-standing error (looks to be dating back to Yubiquitoyama's old makuuchi rikishi database)...the DB has his birthyear as 1967 so he would have been only 58 now. Other sources - Takayama back in the day as well as ja.wiki since all the way back in 2007 when his article was created there - are saying 1965, which matches the age at death reported by Nikkan.

[Asashosakari]

Kenho is a Tokyo Nogyo graduate, reference: https://www.nodai.ac.jp/campus/club/setagaya/noyukai/sumo/. (I wonder how that slipped through back in 2011, couldn't find it mentioned in the maezumo thread either.)

Kaizen is an Asahi graduate; this one was mentioned on the forum but only months after maezumo so it didn't get picked up at the time: https://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/34739-new-recruits-for-hatsu-2016/page/3/#findComment-303463. (A fresher reference directly from the university also here: https://www.asahi-u.ac.jp/topics/2023/16193/)

Wakenokaze is a Nittaidai graduate: https://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/35049-new-recruits-for-natsu-2016/#findComment-303636

Edited December 26, 2025 by Asashosakari

[Yubinhaad]

On 21/12/2025 at 22:12, Yubinhaad said:

Jd37e Kazunofuji Manzo > Suigafuji Takashi (翠河富士　隆司,  すいがふじ　たかし)

 

Kazunofuji's new shikona wasn't picked up and he has incorrectly been placed as banzuke-gai rather than his Jd37e rank.

[Yubinhaad]

Momijibasi noticed that Fukunohana won seven Kanto-sho but in his hoshitori the number jumps from 4th (1971.03) to 6th (1972.01), so the next two are also off by one.

[Doitsuyama]

On 22/11/2025 at 18:39, Asashosakari said:

I was just scouring the DB for the youngest-debuting rikishi listed in it, and came across a guy that we briefly talked about a few years ago when the same topic came up (name bolding not in original posts):

I have to say that even though a debut at age 11 was possible in that era, his results strain credulity. As the DB has it, he would have gone 8-0 in jonidan and progressed through most of sandanme as a 12-year-old. It's unfortunate that the profile Yubinhaad turned up back then doesn't have the full birthdate, but age 19 certainly looks a lot more believable. Maybe the original source material is still available that the alleged 1946 birthyear came from?

I changed his birth year to 1939 which should be in line with the shown source material.

[Kaitetsu]

I found that its only since March 2015 new foreign recruits have had a basho in Bg on SumoDB before making their Mz/TD debuts. It kinda throws off their Hatsu Dohyo date by 1 basho (JSA uses their Mz/TD basho as their Hatsu Dohyo date officially). 
So I am genuinely asking out of pure curiosity, why put them in the DB on Bg at all if it is going to affect the official debut date?

Edited January 6 by Kaitetsu

[Asashosakari]

It's been much longer than that, the Kyokai's change in handling of foreign newcomers happened in 2008 (Aratoshi to Azumaryu / Takanoiwa).

[mugatake]

There's some sort of bizarre logic error happening here. I don't know anything about the technology to offer a guess.

Or did I do something wrong to the search?

 

Edited Friday at 17:55 by mugatake

[Asashosakari]

I don't see anything wrong with the output based on the search parameters. What did you want to show and what's not there that you believe should be?

[mugatake]

I'm asking about the date rollover in the first image. It's supposed to be sorted by date. Or is the "unknown" basho meant to demarcate a lack of information on all following results?

[Asashosakari]

5 minutes ago, mugatake said:

I'm asking about the date rollover in the first image. It's supposed to be sorted by date. Or is the "unknown" basho meant to demarcate a lack of information on all following results?

Oh, that. There's a bit of a quirk surrounding entries with zero hits. (I'm not sure if it's intentional or not.) If you want them to sort properly among the actual results, you need to set "at least 0 matching results". Compare the following versions of an otherwise identical query: v1, v2. Without that, they'll always remain at the bottom of the listing.

[Athenayama]

Shishi and Mitakeumi seem to have met 3 times but the Sumo Reference displays a "3-1" (sorry for the bad copy/aste).

Shishi vs. Mitakeumi 3-1

 

2025.03	Day 10	M13w Shishi		uwatenage		M17e Mitakeumi
2025.07	Day 4	M17w Shishi		oshidashi		M16w Mitakeumi
2025.09	Day 12	M18e Shishi		oshidashi		M12w Mitakeumi
2026.01	Day 1	M14e Shishi				M14w Mitakeumi

[Yamanashi]

6 hours ago, Athenayama said:

Shishi and Mitakeumi seem to have met 3 times but the Sumo Reference displays a "3-1" (sorry for the bad copy/aste).

Shishi vs. Mitakeumi 3-1

 

2025.03	Day 10	M13w Shishi		uwatenage		M17e Mitakeumi
2025.07	Day 4	M17w Shishi		oshidashi		M16w Mitakeumi
2025.09	Day 12	M18e Shishi		oshidashi		M12w Mitakeumi
2026.01	Day 1	M14e Shishi				M14w Mitakeumi

Uh, they have met three times, Shishi 2-1, they meet on day 1 of Hatsu 2026; and, apparently, Shishi is going to win.  Other than clairvoyance, no problem!