Bealzbob Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 .... Will Kotomitsuki finally get promotion to the rank of Ozeki in Nagoya ?
Bealzbob Posted June 13, 2007 Author Posted June 13, 2007 My heart says yes but my head says no. I really want him to do it though.
aderechelsea Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 i'll go with the safe bet and say .... "No". i won't have a problem if he proves me wrong :-S
Gusoyama Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 like I said before, 3-1 or 4-1 odds says he doesn't do it.
Sasanishiki Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) I am hoping mightily, but I'm not confident enough to put any money on it! Hopefully some of the attention on Hakuho's basho as shin-yokozuna will take the heat off Kotomitsuki so that he can get into his groove. Edited June 13, 2007 by Sasanishiki
Gusoyama Posted June 14, 2007 Posted June 14, 2007 2 healthy yokozunae = only room for 1 loss. I understand this is exactly what he did last basho, but still, I think its doubtful. I'd like to make a request of Doitsuyama, and/or any other stattos out there. What is Mickey's "strength rating" compared to others when they were making their Ozeki bid? Or even to when he was making his previous 34 over 3 bid? I don't have access to any databases anymore so I can't really check this out.
Asashosakari Posted June 14, 2007 Posted June 14, 2007 2 healthy yokozunae = only room for 1 loss. I understand this is exactly what he did last basho, but still, I think its doubtful. I'd like to make a request of Doitsuyama, and/or any other stattos out there. What is Mickey's "strength rating" compared to others when they were making their Ozeki bid? Or even to when he was making his previous 34 over 3 bid? I don't have access to any databases anymore so I can't really check this out. These should be most of the "interesting" basho for recent rikishi...I don't think that necessarily all of these were considered ozeki runs at the time, but I've decided to leave a few more in the list. W2 is the win total of the previous two basho, R is Doitsuyama's Heisei-based basho rating for the rikishi, and R# is the ordinal rank of his rating for that basho. Shikona Basho W2 R R# Record Next Chiyotaikai 1998.11 20 2284 6 10-5 S1e Chiyotaikai 1999.01 19 2302 6 13-2Y O1w Dejima 1999.07 20 2308 8 13-2Y O2e Kaio 1999.07 22 2364 4 8-7 S1e Kaio 2000.01 20 2385 3 7-8 K1w Musoyama 2000.03 23 2368 4 12-3J O1w Miyabiyama 2000.05 23 2321 8 11-4 O1w Kaio 2000.07 22 2409 4 11-4 O2e Tochiazuma 2000.09 21 2378 6 2-4-9 M4w Tochiazuma 2001.11 22 2391 4 12-3J O2w Kotomitsuki 2002.01 22 2325 6 12-3 S1e Kotomitsuki 2002.03 21 2362 5 8-7 S1w Asashoryu 2002.07 22 2368 5 12-3J O3e Wakanosato 2003.05 20 2310 5 9-6 S1e Wakanosato 2003.11 21 2359 4 7-8 K1w Wakanosato 2005.01 21 2353 3 6-9 M1w Hakuho 2005.03 23 2346 4 8-7 S1e Kotomitsuki 2005.07 22 2372 4 7-8 K1e Kotooshu 2005.11 25 2372 3 11-4J O2w Hakuho 2006.03 22 2394 3 13-2J O3w Miyabiyama 2006.07 24 2396 4 10-5 S1e Miyabiyama 2006.09 24 2402 3 9-6 S1e Kotomitsuki 2007.07 22 2376 3 ? ?
Gusoyama Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Thanks for the numbers. I still don't think he'll do it, but I think it would be great if he did. :)
ilovesumo Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Now that I look in this poll again, it is 50/50 with 14 to 14 votes...kinda interesting (Sigh...)
Jakusotsu Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Those throwing around probability numbers are probably missing the point of the question. Me too thinks the odds aren't favourable for his promotion, but I still believe he'll go against them, so I voted yes.
slt Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 Maybe he'll manage it, by dissolving his losing streak v. Asashoryu !! ... or perhaps not. I say he crumbles, after an 7-0 start.
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