Bunbukuchagama Posted December 12, 2025 Posted December 12, 2025 57 minutes ago, RussReimroc said: Surely there has to be someone in the JSA who has realized how this system negatively impacts current and future rikishi, who are clinging on to their careers in hopes of grabbing a kabu? I understand why it was implemented, but at this point in time it seems to only really be a detriment. With that being said, I guess none of the guys that are lined up to become sanyo would have reason to do anything about it... Like any other old boys club, JSA is mostly concerned with fulfilling the wishes of the most senior of its members.
Gurowake Posted December 12, 2025 Posted December 12, 2025 11 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said: Like any other old boys club, JSA is mostly concerned with fulfilling the wishes of the most senior of its members. Especially as scarcity drives up the "consultant fees" that they are able to ask of people who want to be recommended as the next holder of the kabu.
Reonito Posted December 12, 2025 Posted December 12, 2025 “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ―Upton Sinclair 3 1 1
Ripe Posted December 14, 2025 Posted December 14, 2025 On 12/12/2025 at 04:29, RussReimroc said: Surely there has to be someone in the JSA who has realized how this system negatively impacts current and future rikishi, who are clinging on to their careers in hopes of grabbing a kabu? I understand why it was implemented, but at this point in time it seems to only really be a detriment. With that being said, I guess none of the guys that are lined up to become sanyo would have reason to do anything about it... I'm not even sure I understand why it was implemented in the first place...
Kishinoyama Posted December 14, 2025 Posted December 14, 2025 4 hours ago, Ripe said: I'm not even sure I understand why it was implemented in the first place... I think it was implemented because oyakata were (are) living longer. It kind of like being in politics and giving yourself a pay raise. In this case 5 extra years as an “adviser”. They get less pay but also have less responsibility.
Yamanashi Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 5 hours ago, Kishinoyama said: I think it was implemented because oyakata were (are) living longer. It kind of like being in politics and giving yourself a pay raise. In this case 5 extra years as an “adviser”. They get less pay but also have less responsibility. The august presences on the Forum will remember this better, but I believe the reason (excuse?) was because of national laws regarding bias against the elderly -- you can't just haul them off when they get to a certain age, or something.
Koorifuu Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 Of all the countries I possess minimal knowledge about, Japan is probably the one that should be the least worried about treatment of the elderly.
Muhomatsu Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 15 hours ago, Yamanashi said: The august presences on the Forum will remember this better, but I believe the reason (excuse?) was because of national laws regarding bias against the elderly -- you can't just haul them off when they get to a certain age, or something. Yet this "san'yo" extension was only granted for oyakata. The urakata (gyoji, yobidashi, and tokoyama) must all still leave at 65. Still time for something, as the age limit did not pose a threat to another term for Hakkaku. He still has a few years to get it extended to 70 so that he can get elected again in a few years. 1 1
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