FAWL - Natsu 2007

[abudisake]

Hi all, first, sorry for my poor english !!!

Fuseigou and I have tried a new game during the Haru Basho. It has worked well and we want to open it to all.

FAWL Fus&Abu Winner/Loser is based on the knowledge of the torikumi and on sekitori's shape during the basho.

This is a pre basho game in which you have to find winners and losers.

We have separated the banzuke in three groups :

- the high group with the 14 first of the banzuke (from Asashoryu to Tamanoshima)

- the middle group with the 14 next (from Kakizoe to Miyabiyama)

- the low group with the 14 others (from Dejima to Kasuganishiki)

We have also 5 periods :

- day 1 to 3

- day 4 to 6

- day 7 to 9

- day 10 to 12

- day 13 to 15

for each period you have to find one winner and one loser per group

you have to present your (forecast ?) with the model below.

(The winner in first) (only once as a winner and only once as a loser)

Days 1 to 3 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

Days 4 to 6 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

Days 7 to 9 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

Days 10

Edited May 10, 2007 by abudisake

[Kintamayama]

Interesting concept-I'm in already-this should become quite popular.

[Kintamayama]

Just for clarification, as I didn't get this part-you can only choose a rikishi ONCE as a winner and ONCE as a loser. I missed that part and had to redo my entry..

[abudisake]

it was my fault.... it wasn't clear.... i've edited my post too !!

[abudisake]

if a rikishi is officialy kyujo before yokozuna's doyo iri, he can't be in your forecast.....

tochiazuma for example & maybe toyonoshima..... don't forget to edit your post in case......

the link :

http://www.info-sumo.net/info/modules.php?...opic&t=3129

[abudisake]

by reading the firsts forecasts, the main played as winners are : Asashoryu and Hakuho and next Wakanosato, Roho, Miyabiyama, Tochinonada and Futeno

the main played as losers are : Ryuo and Tokitsuumi and next Tamanoshima and Otsukasa

the link :

http://www.info-sumo.net/info/modules.php?...opic&t=3129

[Fay]

I'll give it a try, hope I got it right :-D

[abudisake]

for information

kyokutenho and tochiazuma can't be your forecasts.....

[abudisake]

let's see your forecasts :

the stars as winners :

still asashoryu (amazing ?) then hakuho and roho and thenwakanosato, miyabiyama, dejima, tochinonada & futeno

the stars as losers :

tokitsuumi, ryuo and the, kotoshogiku, tamanoshima, kakizoe and otsukasa

the most played as winner and loser is kotoshogiku

hoping you will join the fawl.....

[abudisake]

play fawl on this site !!

to remind you how to fill your the fawl's forecast :

choose a winner and a loser from each group and for each period

a rikishi once as a winner and once as a loser

High group :

Asashoryu - Hakuho - Kotooshu - Kaio - #### - Chiyotaikai - Kotomitsuki - Ama - Toyonoshima - Kotoshogiku - Homasho - Tokitenku - Kokkai - Tamanoshima

Middle group :

Kakizoe - Kisenosato - Aminishiki - Tochiozan - Takekaze - Kakuryu - Tokitsuumi - Kasugao - Takamisakari - Wakanosato - #### - Asasekiryu - Roho - Miyabiyama

Low group :

Dejima - #### - Otsukasa - Tochinonada - Tamakasuga - Satoyama - Futeno - Tochinohana - Ryuo - Hochiyama - Ushiomaru - Iwakiyama - Hokutoriki - Kasuganishiki

day 1 to 3 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

day 4 to 6 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

day 7 to 9 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

day 10 to 12 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

day 13 to 15 : Winner high group & Loser high group / Winner middle group & Loser middle group / Winner low group & Loser low group

you can answer here on the english site.

Edited May 11, 2007 by abudisake

[abudisake]

un example of prediction to play fawl :

day 1 to 3 : Ama & Kotoshogiku / Roho & Asasekiryu / Shimotori & Tamakasuga

day 4 to 6 : Asashoryu & Toyonoshima / Wakanosato & Takekaze / Tochinonada & Ushiomaru

day 7 to 9 : Hakuho & Kotomitsuki / Kasugao & Takamisakari / Tamakasuga & Hokutoriki

day 10 to 12 : Homasho & Kokkai / Kisenosato & Miyabiyama / Futeno & Otsukasa

day 13 to 15 : Chiyotaikai & Kaio / Kakizoe & Tokitsuumi / Ryuo & Kasuganishiki

easy to fill but easy to "fawl" !

[abudisake]

take care :

tochiazuma (intai), kyokutenho (kyujo) and shimotori (kyujo) can't be your forecast.

from this sumoforum i have only 4 players : kintamayama, fayme, neko and itachi

hurry up, the deadline is asashoryu's first dohyo iri

i remind you that you can post your forecast on this site. to help you, you may copy the example and stick the shikonas

fuseigou has written the rules (only in french) on the french site and i hope we will have enough time to translate them in english for the nagoya basho

hope you will "fawl" with us

abu

[XiaoTan]

Hi Abudisake,

My French is not good enough to post anything in French writing - just enough to read and guess the meaning of the French posts. Wanted to say thanks for this game - I think this is quite interesting as you not only have to judge realtive strength of the rikishis but also their form curve.

;-)

Neko

[abudisake]

24 hours left to join the fawl

the most played as winner :

from high group : asashoryu, hakuho, kotomitsuki & kotooshu

from middle group : roho, miyabiyama, wakanosato & asasekiryu

from low group : dejima, futeno, tochinonada & iwakiyama

the most played as loser :

from high group : toyonoshima, kotoshogiku, tamanoshima & kaio

from middle group : kakizoe, tokitsuumi & takamisakari

from low group : ryuo, otsukasa, hochiyama & ushiomaru

have a good choice. you can post your forecast by adding a reply after this post.

deadline : yokozuna's first dohyo iri

[wolfgangho]

hi!

day 1-3 asahoryu&tokitenku/kisenosato&asasekiryu/futeno&dejima

day 4-6 hakuho/toyonoshima/tochiozan&miyabiyama/tochinonada&otsukasa

day 7-9 kotooshu/kotoshogiku/roho&takekaze/hochiyama&satoyama

day 10-12 homasho/kokkai/kakuryu&tokitsuumi/iwakiyama&kasuganishiki

day13-15 kaio/chiyotaikai /kasugao&takamisakari/tochinohana/hokutoriki

vlg

wolfgangho

[abudisake]

So we will be 24 to fawl in this natsu.

No big surprises on this shonishi.

4 perfect (6/6) and 12 5/6 today... very good job...

the ranking : (rank- shikona - win dof the day - loose of the day - total points)

1 - zenjimoto 3 - 3 - 6

2 - kintamayama 3 - 3 - 6

3 - konosato 3 - 3 - 6

4 - holleshoryu 3 - 3 - 6

5 - imumaru 2 - 3 - 5

6 - fayme 2 - 3 - 5

7 - damimonay 2 - 3 - 5

8 - charliki 2 - 3 - 5

9 - kotononami 3 - 2 - 5

10 - le f

[abudisake]

still in a very good shape today with 5 new perfect ! congratulations for the happy owners;

the ranking after day 2 : (rank- shikona - looses of the day - wins of the day - total points)

1 - zenjimoto 3 - 2 - 11

2 - kotononami 3 - 3 - 11

3 - itachi 3 - 3 - 11

4 - konosato 3 - 2 - 11

5 - le f

[abudisake]

no perfect today, getting tired ?

ranking at the end of the first period : (#loose du jour - #win du jour - total points)

1 - zenjimoto 3 - 2 - 16

2 - kotononami 3 - 2 - 16

3 - itachi 3 - 2 - 16

4 - le f

[abudisake]

at the end of the first period, let's have a look at at the award race :

YUSHO : ZENJIMOTO

JUN-YUSHO : KOTONONAMI

SHUKUN-SHO : ITACHI (first maegashira without yusho & jun-yusho)

KANTO-SHO : ZENJIMOTO (1 perfect)

GINO-SHO : TERARNO (8 square = 8 wins & 8 looses)

ABUDISAKE'S AWARD (best for losers) : DOITSUYAMA

FUSEIGOU'S AWARD (best for winners) : CHARLIKI

MUPPET-SHO : still free......

[abudisake]

topics for the day 4 :

marimo, neko, kitano, wolgangho and master zenjimoto add one perfect to their count.

holleshoryu has missed the start of the muppet-sho race with a wonderful 1/6

lthe ranking : (loose of the day - win of the day - total pts - X/15-X)

1 - zenjimoto 3 - 3 - 22 - 12/3

2 - kotononami 2 - 3 - 21 - 11/4

3 - itach 2 - 3 - 21 - 11/4

4 - neko 3 - 3 - 21 - 11/4

5 - le f

[abudisake]

the new ranking : itachi is sinking ! is there someone to help him ?

1 - zenjimoto 2 - 2 - 26 - 11/4

2 - kotononami 2 - 2 - 25 - 11/4

3 - neko 2 - 2 - 25 - 11/4

4 - le f

[Kintamayama]

If you can get this game automated (there are a few here and on the French side who can easily do this, cough..cough..) you have a real hit on your hands. Hundreds will play. I enjoyed entering and am enjoying checking the results even more..

Salute!!

[abudisake]

crazy day in all the sumo games, fawl is like the others :

perfect for kintamayama, marimo, neko, kotononami, wolfgangho, tamanaogijima and still the leader zenjimoto.

the ranking at the end of the second period :

1 - zenjimoto 3 - 3 - 32 - 12/3

2 - kotononami 3 - 3 - 31 - 11/4

3 - neko 3 - 3 - 31 - 11/4

4 - kitano 2 - 3 - 30 - 10/5

5 - kintamayama 3 - 3 - 29 - 10/5

6 - le f

[Fuseigou]

If you can get this game automated (there are a few here and on the French side who can easily do this, cough..cough..) you have a real hit on your hands. Hundreds will play. I enjoyed entering and am enjoying checking the results even more..

Salute!!

Hi Kintamayama !

Abudisake and I are really glad to hear you're enjoying FAWL, as much as we both do... Thanks to be so confident with this game, but now we are just 23 or 24 players... and not hundreds as you predict, even if the participant level is high this Natsu basho (it's quite tough to make difference with other players).

The game is well automated today, with an excel file that makes easier the daily follow-up for us. It should be sufficient to develop FAWL...

For sure, it would be more interesting to create a user interface on net, where everyone could post their predictions and could follow results, with an automated base associated with. But, Abudisake and I are really not competents to do that. The most we could do would be thinking about the user interface organisation, but no more... We are thinking about it, but that'll be sure we need help...

Let's pass by this basho, but if you have any ideas, don't hesitate to tell us...

Salut !!

[Kintamayama]

The game is well automated today, with an excel file that makes easier the daily follow-up for us. It should be sufficient to develop FAWL...

For sure, it would be more interesting to create a user interface on net, where everyone could post their predictions and could follow results, with an automated base associated with. But, Abudisake and I are really not competents to do that. The most we could do would be thinking about the user interface organisation, but no more... We are thinking about it, but that'll be sure we need help...

Let's pass by this basho, but if you have any ideas, don't hesitate to tell us...

When I say automated, I mean an automated user-interface. I tend not to participate in games that make me do too much. I'm lazy. I'm pretty sure if you get a site with good interface, you'll have people OUTSIDE of this forum playing as well. I still say you have the potential for over a hundred players with this.

You don't have to be competent to do this. You need competent friends. I am totally incompetent, yet I run three different games, all automated, thanks to good friends who helped out.

As an example, before GTB was automated, we were around the 50/60 player mark. After, we are at the 105 player mark.

It's not so hard. Come on-you have two months to prepare for Nagoya!!

Edited May 18, 2007 by Kintamayama