Proper decorum

[Kintamayama]

I always find myself at a loss when trying to say this. I feel we should have a uniform platform conform form of putting it. I'm also bored, as I have vowed not to enter the henka discussion, and it's killing me.

[aderechelsea]

i'd like to help you here but i tend to write whatever comes to mind first, so i have no real preference.

if you are bored .... go read the nice self-centered topics i open all over the place

(Sign of approval...)

[Hashira]

why the need to decide on a single word, if they all mean the same thing? it's similar to North American sportscasters with their never-ending puns and different ways to report the scores "heat burn the knicks, Hurricanes blow away Leafs, Yankees beat/defeat/dispose of/handle/win against the Red Sox 4-2"

My personal favourite I think would be to use the word alone "he will yusho this basho, he yushoed in Haru 2006"

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

Mount the yusho sounds kind of kinky so I will choose that.

See dreams sir.

[Jonosuke]

Yousho, I sho and we all sho.

The trouble is that we have way too many shows.

So we've got AsaSHOsho, Hakusho, KotooSHO and even ChiyoTaisho.

We just should ban the whole thing, not including AsaSHOsakari as we all know he is good for Banzuke Pie.

Now back to regularly scheduled programming....

[Kintamayama]

why the need to decide on a single word, if they all mean the same thing?

No real need, but OTOH, who needs a sagari??

My personal favourite I think would be to use the word alone "he will yusho this basho, he yushoed in Haru 2006"

I agree. It is good. Didn't think of that.

Edited March 26, 2007 by Kintamayama

[Randomitsuki]

Is the "sho" in "yusho" the same "sho" as the "sho" in "sansho"? If yes, and if the "sho" in "sansho" means prize, could you even say that you receive the yusho? Or being awarded the yusho?

[Kintamayama]

Is the "sho" in "yusho" the same "sho" as the "sho" in "sansho"? If yes, and if the "sho" in "sansho" means prize, could you even say that you receive the yusho? Or being awarded the yusho?

Possible, but in this day and age, we need a one-word catch phrase...

[Asashosakari]

Earn, grab, claim, take ...

[Kintamayama]

Earn, grab, claim, take ...

Yes, but which is the correct one in your mind? Which would/do you use when you post?

[Jakusotsu]

Which would/do you use when you post?

steal

[Asashosakari]

Earn, grab, claim, take ...

Yes, but which is the correct one in your mind? Which would/do you use when you post?

My top 3 (in no particular order) would have to be win, capture and claim, I guess.

As far as I'm concerned, "win" works best in a historical context ("suchandsuch won the Makushita yusho in 2002.03") while "capture" and "claim" work better in contemporary context ("suchandsuch captured/claimed the Sandanme yusho by beating someotherguy in the kettei-sen"). And that's all the mental energy I'll expend on this question, I think...

[Kintamayama]

Which would/do you use when you post?

steal

I must say this is great and may be true in certain instances, but I am looking for a broader, more positive solution to my meandering dilemma.

[Doitsuyama]

Is the "sho" in "yusho" the same "sho" as the "sho" in "sansho"? If yes, and if the "sho" in "sansho" means prize, could you even say that you receive the yusho? Or being awarded the yusho?

Nope. The sho in yusho is "win" - the same as the "ka" in kachi-koshi, but I wouldn't go into more detail now, just start learning the 2000 kanji with the 6000 readings already (Holiday feeling...) . The sho in sansho means "prize", while the "san" means "three", the same as in sanyaku.

The "yu" in yusho is a chameleon among the kanji and means "superior" here. It can also mean "actor/actress" as in haiyu or "tender/gentle" as in yasashii. You know, learning the 2000 kanji and 6000 readings in itself is worthless - it's a bit like learning the alphabet. You still have to learn about 20,000 words which are the basic Japanese vocabulary (which corresponds to about 8,000 words of English basic vocabulary).

Sorry for being off-topic but I couldn't resist to mention those things. Maybe somebody starts to learn Japanese now which would be a good thing. :-)

[slt]

Clinch ?

[sekihiryu]

Buy the yusho? (Holiday feeling...)

[Manekineko]

Mount the yusho sounds kind of kinky so I will choose that.

See dreams sir.

Great minds think alike, sir. (Bow...)

[Zenjimoto]

Take the Yusho. Receive a Sansho. (Bow...)

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

crab!

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

More:

saavuttaa yusho

ylt

[Hashira]

To ensure sumo gets more media exposure and google hits, i propose we refer to it as to "Brangelina the yusho"

[Bealzbob]

I thought you get the yusho and win the basho.