Afrozuna Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Everyone knows the bout against Asa could very well be the decider. Many are rooting for Asa if only just to have a very interesting Day 15. At 21 this could proove to be a lot of weight on the young Ozeki. Does he have the mental strength to pull it off under pressure against a consistent Asa.
aderechelsea Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 As opposed to other rikishi, Hakuho has no "fear" when he faces Asashoryu. He may lose due to inability or just bad luck, but he definitely doesn't "crumble" in front of the Yokozuna like others do. This is the main reason i hope they will establish a rivalry for the years to come, and Hakuho becomng a yokozuna would help in this direction. They would be peers even rank-wise.
Phoenix Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 As opposed to other rikishi, Hakuho has no "fear" when he faces Asashoryu.He may lose due to inability or just bad luck, but he definitely doesn't "crumble" in front of the Yokozuna like others do. This is the main reason i hope they will establish a rivalry for the years to come, and Hakuho becomng a yokozuna would help in this direction. They would be peers even rank-wise. I agree with you. Hakuho won't crumble! Asa Better watch out tomorrow!
Afrozuna Posted March 23, 2007 Author Posted March 23, 2007 Before Hatsu, some poster said Hakuho was highly praised by the YDC at some pre-Basho practice session. I believe this placed a lot of expectation on Hakuho to win Hatsu but he ended with 10-5 (If I remember correctly). Even though he was coming from injury at Hatsu I think the YDC comment put a lot of stress on his shoulders and hence he was out of contention faster than expected. This time no one was really expecting he to be a world-beater especially with the way Tochiazuma started the Basho. But now that we are on the business end of things perhaps the Hatsu butterflies could make a return at Haru. This is the first time I will root for the Yokozuna's opponent in a Yokozuna bout. I really feel we need another Yokozuna to add more intrigue.
Asashosakari Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 People expected Hakuho to be a yusho favorite in Hatsu basho? Looks like I've returned to the wrong universe after my latest time travel adventure. (Thanks for hooking me up with that, adere.)
Peterao Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Will Hakuho crumble? Yes.* Next question? *IMHO. Copyright 2007. All rights reserved.
Jakusotsu Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Next question? Is sumocast still running when Asashoryu takes his 100th yusho?
Peterao Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Next question? Is sumocast still running when Asashoryu takes his 100th yusho? My first goal is to get the 100th episode of Sumocast out before that takes place.
Guest elzumo Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 IMO Hakuho will not crumble. He is both powerful and technical enough to face Asa. Although I've been watcing sumo only a year and statistics says that overall balance is favouring the yokozuna, I've been impressed with Hakuhos record of fighting with Asa during last year.
s0101 Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Will Hakuho crumble? Yes.* Next question? *IMHO. Copyright 2007. All rights reserved. ...some restrictions might apply...
Jonosuke Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Seeing the last six bouts between Hakuho and Asashoryu a couple of days ago on NHK, I am convinced that Hakuho will be the next yokozuna. I am not saying Hakuho will beat Asashoryu consistently but Hakuho is an ozeki in name only as he already has enough calibre to be recognized as a legitimate yokozuna. All the bouts he had against Asashoryu, win or loss, were nothing short of yokozuna sumo. They can be easily compared against all the bouts Takanohana had with Akebono or even Taiho with Kashiwado. Granted that Asashoryu had come back from a similar predicament previously but when he did, he was facing an opponent without much experience in yusho situation. Hakuho is more experienced now and as far more matured than any other 22 year old rikishi. This time around the numbers are against Asashoryu. To win two straight against Hakuho in the current condition will require superhuman efforts with considerable amount of luck. I am sorry, guys, he won't crumble. This time around, it's Hakuho's.
slt Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Seeing the last six bouts between Hakuho and Asashoryu a couple of days ago on NHK, I am convinced that Hakuho will be the next yokozuna.I am sorry, guys, he won't crumble. This time around, it's Hakuho's. I think the yusho will be Hakuho's - but I think (and hope...) that Asa will win tomorrow. Yusho to be decided on day 15, otherwise how would the conspiracists survive the anticlimatic (and economically foolish) conclusion of the yusho photo finish on day 14 ?
Guest vscottj Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Hakuho will not *crumble*...but I hope he loses gracefully while putting up a valiant fight. (Neener, neener...) I would love to have a second yokozuna to keep things interesting - and Hakuho would fit the bill.
Doitsuyama Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 I think the yusho will be Hakuho's - but I think (and hope...) that Asa will win tomorrow. Yusho to be decided on day 15, otherwise how would the conspiracists survive the anticlimatic (and economically foolish) conclusion of the yusho photo finish on day 14 ? That's so easy. Conspiracists will claim the day 14 yusho was set up to fool them - to no avail of course!
Kintamayama Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 (edited) Hakuho is more experienced now and as far more matured than any other 22 year old rikishi. This time around the numbers are against Asashoryu. To win two straight against Hakuho in the current condition will require superhuman efforts with considerable amount of luck.I am sorry, guys, he won't crumble. This time around, it's Hakuho's. I disagree. His sumo this basho is hesitant. Nothing like when he was coming up. I can see the loss of confidence. Asa, on the other hand, has a lot riding. I don't think beating Hakuhou twice in 24 hours calls for "superhuman efforts" and Asa doesn't need luck to beat anybody.. Asa is looking stronger every day, whereas Hakuhou looks edgy and tired and hesitant, as could be seen in today's pathetic tachi-ai games with Taikai. But, we shall see.. Edited March 23, 2007 by Kintamayama
slt Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Hakuhou looks edgy and tired and hesitant, as could be seen in today's pathetic tachi-ai games with Taikai.But, we shall see.. I haven't found a replay of the taichi-ai "games", so I'm just relying on my memories from this morning, but I felt the shaky taichi-ai mostly came from Taikai's side, actually.
Kintamayama Posted March 23, 2007 Posted March 23, 2007 Hakuhou looks edgy and tired and hesitant, as could be seen in today's pathetic tachi-ai games with Taikai.But, we shall see.. I haven't found a replay of the taichi-ai "games", so I'm just relying on my memories from this morning, but I felt the shaky taichi-ai mostly came from Taikai's side, actually. We're watching the same feed and it looked to me like Hakuhou was the one being admonished by the shimpan by his reactions. It seemed like it was Hakuhou who was reluctant to get his hands down, and was the tense one. No matter though-tomorrow is an entirely different story.
Jejima Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Of course, we should also think about the Yokozuna. I have a feeling that he *may* crumble. After all the allegation prior to this basho, he may have more pressure on him than usual. He is also going into the bout today in a 'catch-up' position. Without checking the records, I'm betting it has been some time since he has gone into day 14 in such a position. The pressure must be quite strong for him too, no? He *must* win today to win the Yusho. Hakuho can just about afford to lose this one....
aderechelsea Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 only thing i know this is the most anticipated bout in recent memory. it even overshadows the Miya-Hakuho kettei-sen last Natsu, because back then i kinda "knew" inside me that Hakuho could not lose that one. i didn't sleep after work because i was afraid i might oversleep and miss it ... (Neener, neener...)
Kintamayama Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 Read Hakuho's quotes. Sounds pretty confident to me. I'd read Kumagatani's quotes. "He can't get the mawashi for the love of him"..etc. etc. A rikishi should speak with confidence. Nothing whatsoever to do with what is really going on in his head. But we'll see soon enough.. As for Hakuhou becoming the next Yokozuna, I certainly believe that will be the case.
Peterao Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I am sorry, guys, he won't crumble. What would you call that then...cracking? Looking forward to Hakuho crumbling cracking again tomorrow.
aderechelsea Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I am sorry, guys, he won't crumble. What would you call that then...cracking? Looking forward to Hakuho crumbling cracking again tomorrow. i call that "just losing" but you can call it whatever you want. You are incurable anyway ....
Kintamayama Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 (edited) Crumbled like a cookie. He had him where he wanted him, and shat /shot himself in the leg. Osh is no pushover, so I'm not that convinced we will have a playoff either. And Taikai is 7-7, and we all know he can explode suddenly without prior notice. Torikumi makers win again. Edited March 24, 2007 by Kintamayama
Joeblack Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 yet another mastery by the Yokozuna. (Showing respect...) Nobody can push him around like that.
Peterao Posted March 24, 2007 Posted March 24, 2007 I am sorry, guys, he won't crumble. What would you call that then...cracking? Looking forward to Hakuho crumbling cracking again tomorrow. i call that "just losing" but you can call it whatever you want. You are incurable anyway .... Incurable? I'm not the one living in a dream world where someone will seriously challenge Asashoryu within the next 10 years...
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