Naganoyama Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) SHIKONA KANJI NAME HEYA HEIGHT WEIGHT DOB BIRTHPLACE Abeshima 阿部島 Ryosuke Abeshima Dewanoumi 170 105 12 - December - 1991 Tokyo Aiyama 相山 Takuya Aiyama Kitanoumi 168 92 23 - March - 1992 Saitama Asasakai 朝酒井 Yasunobu Sakai Takasago 187 155 12 - February - 1989 Kanagawa Daijo 大乗 Koji Nakashima Takadagawa 179 115 19 - July - 1991 Fukuoka Daishoai 大翔藍 Daisuke Fujiwara Oitekaze 175 119 19 - November - 1991 Gifu Dokozan 道広山 Michihiro Regasupi Nakamura Miyagino 178 153 01 - August - 1990 Kanagawa Ebisumaru 恵比寿丸 Hiroki Kataoka Takadagawa 173 106 31 - May - 1991 Hyogo Fukamachi 深町 Yoshiaki Fukamachi Ounomatsu 167 120 25 - October - 1988 Fukuoka Funahashi 舩橋 Takanobu Funahashi Nakamura 173 105 25 - January - 1992 Aichi Hamadayama 浜田山 Takashi Yoshida Shibatayama 170 85 02 - December - 1991 Tokyo Hamaminato 濱湊 Kayato Hamana Minato 173 85 13 - July - 1991 Gunma Hamauzu 濱宇津 Daiki Hamauzu Kasugano 186 135 29 - January - 1989 Kochi Hashimoto 橋本 Takuya Hashimoto Kise 181 116 10 - December - 1991 Kumamoto Higuchi 樋口 Kazusada Higuchi Hakkaku 183 105 24 - October - 1988 Hokkaido Hisayama 久山 Tsuyoshi Hisayama Kataonami 180 119 02 - November - 1988 Ishikawa Hokazan 宝香山 Kosaku Fujita Miyagino 183 105 21 - June - 1989 Saitama Iha 伊波 Shinyu Iha Sakaigawa 169 111 27 - November - 1991 Okinawa Ikataumi 伊方海 Takaharu Inoue Nishonoseki 167 68 04 - April - 1991 Ehime Inoue 井上 Tomohiro Inoue Azumazeki 171 72 09 - June - 1991 Osaka Irigemachi 入ヶ町 Junichi Irigemachi Hanakago 171 99 23 - September- 1991 Kagoshima Kainofuji 魁ノ藤 Yoshimasa Saito Tomozuna 173 86 24 - December - 1991 Saitama Kainokura 魁ノ鞍 Tatsuya Sato Tomozuna 171 94 26 - February - 1992 Fukuoka Kainomiya 魁ノ宮 Sadahiro Kogure Tomozuna 178 124 18 - May - 1991 Gunma Kainoryu 魁ノ隆 Hiroki Yamashita Tomozuna 176 95 03 - September- 1991 Kagawa Kawanari 川成 Kento Kawanari Oguruma 182 161 07 - July - 1991 Ehime Kiriazuma 霧東 Yuma Higashi Michinoku 171 130 26 - December - 1991 Kumamoto Kita 北 Jumpei Kita Chiganoura 190 139 08 - May - 1986 Kagoshima Kotetsu 虎鉄 Tetsu Sano Hanaregoma 169 87 07 - July - 1988 Shizuoka Kotokashiwadani 琴柏谷 Mitsutaka Kashiwadani Sadogatake 175 94 20 - November - 1991 Miyazaki Kotokirigakubo 琴桐ヶ久保 Koji Kirigakubo Sadogatake 176 134 21 - December - 1991 Chiba Kotookuyama 琴奥山 Shota Okuyama Sadogatake 183 126 14 - December - 1991 Yamagata Kotosaito 琴斉藤 Shohei Saito Sadogatake 171 71 23 - February - 1992 Aichi Kuma 熊 Tomoaki Kuma Magaki 178 109 21 - October - 1991 Shiga Kuwahara 桑原 Hiromichi Kuwahara Shikoroyama 187 78 30 - January - 1990 Ibaraki Masuda 増田 Shota Masuda Arashio 174 82 08 - May - 1991 Shizuoka Matsuba 松葉 Satoshi Matsuba Kasugayama 180 121 13 - June - 1991 Miyazaki Matsumoto 松本 Yutaka Matsumoto Shikoroyama 176 116 10 - March - 1992 Saitama Mise 三瀬 Kota Mise Tamanoi 182 145 27 - September- 1988 Ishikawa Mitsugi 満木 Asato Mitsugi Isenoumi 174 125 16 - January - 1992 Nagano Mori 森 Tomoki Mori Oitekaze 177 144 21 - April - 1984 Tokyo Morishita 森下 Yuya Morishita Tokitsukaze 178 136 10 - March - 1985 Kochi Nakamoto 中本 Shinji Nakamoto Kasugayama 191 119 02 - December - 1988 Kanagawa Nasu 那須 Makoto Nasu Nakamura 172 87 24 - April - 1991 Aichi Okunuki 奥貫 Takayoshi Okunuki Michinoku 182 124 29 - September- 1991 Chiba Ono 小野 Takahito Ono Nakamura 173 138 21 - November - 1991 Yamanashi Ota 大田 Hiroki Ota Sakaigawa 180 129 14 - February - 1989 Kagoshima Sakamoto 坂本 Takaya Sakamoto Tagonoura 177 131 26 - January - 1989 Wakayama Sakimura 崎村 Hiroki Sakimura Kasugayama 178 119 13 - January - 1992 Oita Sawada 澤田 Tsuyoshi Sawada Shikihide 181 103 24 - February - 1992 Fukuoka Sawamura 澤村 Keita Sawamura Miyagino 173 102 22 - September- 1991 Kanagawa Shinshiro 新城 Yasuhiro Shinjo Kokonoe 173 90 10 - April - 1990 Okinawa Shiratsuka 白塚 Motohisa Shiratsuka Kise 191 182 13 - May - 1984 Mie Shobushi 勝武士 Kiyotaka Omori Takadagawa 167 103 04 - November - 1991 Yamanashi Shogo 翔剛 Shingo Tsukamoto Nishonoseki 177 125 02 - May - 1989 Saga Shunkomaru 春光丸 Shintaro Hayashida Azumazeki 173 110 10 - July - 1991 Kyoto Suzuki 鈴木 Yasuhiro Suzuki Kasugayama 190 176 26 - November - 1988 Kanagawa Tagen 田元 Makoto Tagen Kitanoumi 169 134 06 - April - 1991 Hyogo Taiseizan 太政山 Taisei Matsumoto Takadagawa 179 111 21 - March - 1992 Tokyo Takahashi 高橋 Yutaka Takahashi Tamanoi 187 129 11 - October - 1991 Chiba Takama 高間 Fumio Takama Naruto 181 125 24 - February - 1992 Kagoshima Takanomiya 高乃宮 Masahiro Kogure Takashima 177 125 18 - May - 1991 Gunma Takeda 武田 Nobuyuki Miyaoka Naruto 184 129 11 - June - 1991 Yamaguchi Takeuchi 竹内 Yuki Takeuchi Shikoroyama 170 114 27 - July - 1990 Mie Terashita 寺下 Takahiro Terashita Ounomatsu 187 140 05 - May - 1984 Ishikawa Tochidaiho 栃大邦 Naoto Ozeki Kasugano 176 104 21 - February - 1992 Tochigi Toshi 闘士 Hiroyuki Toma Takadagawa 169 69 13 - April - 1991 Tokyo Tsuzuranuki 葛貫 Yuya Tsuzuranuki Naruto 178 100 10 - June - 1991 Saitama Wakakuramochi 若倉持 Hiroaki Kuramochi Magaki 170 108 03 - July - 1991 Ibaraki Wakaryuma 若龍馬 Ryuji Hirose Ounomatsu 177 114 29 - July - 1991 Tokyo Watanabe 渡邉 Yoshinobu Watanabe Kokonoe 173 126 12 - July - 1991 Chiba Yahiro 八尋 Kazuhide Yahiro Oshima 173 93 17 - October - 1991 Tokyo Yamazoe 山添 Futoshi Yamazoe Nakamura 177 105 27 - December - 1991 Chiba Yoshimura 吉村 Keita Yoshimura Tagonoura 167 70 23 - May - 1991 Aichi Topic with interesting data on recruitsEdit: added linkEdit: shikona Edited March 24, 2007 by Naganoyama
aderechelsea Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 so the shusshin for Nakamura is actually "Phillipines"? ..... Doesn't that make him another foreigner for Miyagino ?
Shibouyama Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 I'd be so happy if I only could find a shindeshi from Tottori-ken. The only prefecture with no rikishi and this is where I live.
Doitsuyama Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 so the shusshin for Nakamura is actually "Phillipines"? ..... Doesn't that make him another foreigner for Miyagino ? The data on the rather hidden database pages from the NSK site surely should be seen as totally unofficial. Changes, especially shusshin changes until they appear on the banzuke for the first time (which will be next basho if they appear in mae-zumo) are quite normal.
Asashosakari Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 so the shusshin for Nakamura is actually "Phillipines"? ..... Doesn't that make him another foreigner for Miyagino ? The data on the rather hidden database pages from the NSK site surely should be seen as totally unofficial. Changes, especially shusshin changes until they appear on the banzuke for the first time (which will be next basho if they appear in mae-zumo) are quite normal. I think they usually make those changes to the database right after the shindeshi-shusse presentation(s)...so we'll know sometime next week.
Asashosakari Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) Buncha aggregated stats... Shindeshi by birth year: 1984 - 3 1985 - 1 1986 - 1 1987 - 0 1988 - 7 1989 - 6 1990 - 4 1991 - 40 1992 - 11 Fewer collegiate rikishi than last year, when there were 9 (without a Makushita tsukedashi, even). And there are almost as many middle-school shindeshi this year as there were total shindeshi last year, which looks quite encouraging. Shindeshi by height: 170-174 cm - 22 175-179 cm - 20 180-184 cm - 13 185-189 cm - 5 190-194 cm - 4 Average height 176.7 cm. Shindeshi by weight: 75-84 kg - 2 85-99 kg - 12 100-119 kg - 25 120-139 kg - 21 140-159 kg - 5 160+ kg - 3 Average weight 113.7 kg. Shindeshi by heya: 5 - Takadagawa [1] 4 - Kasugayama, Nakamura, Sadogatake, Tomozuna [4] 3 - Miyagino, Naruto, Onomatsu, Shikoroyama [4] 2 - Azumazeki, Kasugano, Kise, Kitanoumi, Kokonoe, Magaki, Michinoku, Nishonoseki, Oitekaze, Sakaigawa, Tagonoura, Tamanoi [12] 1 - Arashio, Chiganoura, Dewanoumi, Hakkaku, Hanakago, Hanaregoma, Isenoumi, Kataonami, Minato, Oguruma, Oshima, Shibatayama, Shikihide, Takasago, Takashima, Tokitsukaze [16] 0 - Ajigawa, Araiso, Asahiyama, Irumagawa, Izutsu, Kagamiyama, Kiriyama, Matsugane, Mihogaseki, Minezaki, Musashigawa, Nishikido, Onoe, Otake, Takanohana, Tatsunami [16] Shindeshi by ichimon: Dewanoumi - 14 Independent - 5 Nishonoseki - 19 Takasago - 10 Tatsunami - 15 Tokitsukaze - 10 Most increased heya size: [table] Heya % Old+New [tr]Tomozuna 57% [td]< Edited March 11, 2007 by Asashosakari
aderechelsea Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 interesting stats .... thanks a lot. Onokuni is not doing much of a recruitment for Shibatayama beya. Only one new rikishi to add in his little stable. Hmmm .... Daiyubu isn't doing any hard keiko.
Doitsuyama Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 Where is the hidden kyokai page where I can access all this in Japanese? Its's here: http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/ozumo_meikan/rikishi...ishi.php?A=3038 3038 is the last number for now. Work your way back to 2966 to get the original info for all 73 new deshi (and further for more rikishi of course). Actually, you might have some new website in the near future where you can access that info more easily. :-(
Yuriyama Ren Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) Hmmm.. I dug around the archives a bit and managed to assemble the following table: Hatsu Haru Natsu Nagoya Aki Kyushu Total 2007873 2006759111368720051470115851132004257713367131Looks like 2007 will recruitment wise be better year than 2006, we\'re just 6 shindeshi short with 4 bashos to go.. But is there a site with bit more statistics? I\'m curious as to what the numbers looked like before 2004.. Edit: Fixed Natsu 2004 Edited March 11, 2007 by Yuriyama Ren
Asashosakari Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) Adding 2002 and 2003...prior to that the Kyokai database isn't complete, so I don't have those either. Hatsu Haru Natsu Nagoya Aki Kyushu Total 2003 14 62 20 4 3 11 114 2002 9 49 17 6 6 4 91 Natsu 2004 should be 13, BTW. Edited March 11, 2007 by Asashosakari
Doitsuyama Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 But is there a site with bit more statistics? I'm curious as to what the numbers looked like before 2004.. Do you mean like this? (Whistling...) Hatsu Haru Natsu Nagoya Aki Kyushu Total 2007873 200675911136872005147011585113200425771336713120031461204311113200294917664912001116516371111320009689616991999119710572132199811621037910219971384135531231996131031072413919951493127138147199425106104210157199320139276772061992101483571292211991490189111414619907821956912819891396125831371988109032667151
Yuriyama Ren Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 Ah.. Yes that's exactly it. Thank you both Asashosakari, Doitsuyama.
Asashosakari Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 Hmm, time to hit the Delete button on my post. (Whistling...) (Back to Hatsu 1988 now? Interesting. :-))
Doitsuyama Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 (Back to Hatsu 1988 now? Interesting. (Whistling...)) No, not really. But I have the Hatsu-dohyo for all rikishi in 1988.07. Ok, I am missing all rikishi who had Hatsu-dohyo in 1988 and disappered from the banzuke forever before Nagoya. Can't be many.
Yuriyama Ren Posted March 11, 2007 Posted March 11, 2007 Well, few hours ago I was about to post an energetic reply to this thread about how nice the 73 fold increase in the number of shindeshi compared to Nagoya 2006 was but now after reading the statistics of the past 20 years I've kinda lost the enthusiasm. The number of recruits has been pretty much constant for the past 10 years (with few ups and downs). Seems only 92 - 96 were a more active period..
Fay Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Maezumo started yesterday and all Tomozuna shindeshi won their bouts!
Andreas Posted March 14, 2007 Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) It seems that tomozuna beya is looking more actively for a replacement for Kaiou. I wish them good luck... Edit: and Tamanoi beya also got two recruits with promising size, looking for the next heyagashira? Edited March 14, 2007 by Andreas
Asashosakari Posted March 15, 2007 Posted March 15, 2007 (edited) The first group of shindeshi was presented today. 16 rikishi won two bouts within their first two days of competition (they're not necessarily 2-0, though), and in order of presentation they are: Sakamoto, Tagonoura-beya Morishita, Tokitsukaze-beya Kainomiya (Kogure Sadahiro), Tomozuna-beya Hisayama, Kataonami-beya Shiratsuka, Kise-beya Terashita, Onomatsu-beya Takanomiya (Kogure Masahiro), Takashima-beya Wakaryuma (Hirose), Onomatsu-beya Ota, Sakaigawa-beya Mise, Tamanoi-beya Kotokashiwadani (Kashiwadani), Sadogatake-beya Hokazan (Fujita), Miyagino-beya Kotetsu (Sano), Hanaregoma-beya Kita, Chiganoura-beya Aiyama, Kitanoumi-beya Fukamachi, Onomatsu-beya Ichiban-shusse video Edit: Updated video link to better-quality version by sekihiryu. Edited March 16, 2007 by Asashosakari
Kaiomitsuki Posted March 15, 2007 Posted March 15, 2007 (edited) The twin brothers Kainomiya (left) and Takanomiya Edited March 15, 2007 by Kaiomitsuki
kaiguma Posted March 15, 2007 Posted March 15, 2007 (edited) Sakamoto, Tagonoura-beyaMorishita, Tokitsukaze-beya Kainomiya (Kogure Sadahiro), Tomozuna-beya Hisayama, Kataonami-beya Shiratsuka, Kise-beya Terashita, Onomatsu-beya Takanomiya (Kogure Masahiro), Takashima-beya Wakaryuma (Hirose), Onomatsu-beya Ota, Sakaigawa-beya Mise, Tamanoi-beya Kotokashiwadani (Kashiwadani), Sadogatake-beya Hokazan (Fujita), Miyagino-beya Kotetsu (Sano), Hanaregoma-beya Kita, Chiganoura-beya Aiyama, Kitanoumi-beya Fukamachi, Onomatsu-beya Thanks for posting the link to the vid. They look like a buch of strong lads! Very well-proportioned, lots of muscular shoulders up on the dohyo. Any idea who is the oldest among this group, and how many are only 15? EDIT: Sorry, first question was pretty easy. Shiratsuka and Terashita will bith turn 23 in a couple of months, with Terashita about 1 week older. So I guess Shiratsuka isn't much of a 'growing boy' anymore. He's already one of the three heaviest of the whole bunch. I guess as long as they keep feeding him, though . . . Edited March 15, 2007 by kaiguma
Katsunori Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Where is the hidden kyokai page where I can access all this in Japanese? Its's here: http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/ozumo_meikan/rikishi...ishi.php?A=3038 3038 is the last number for now. Work your way back to 2966 to get the original info for all 73 new deshi (and further for more rikishi of course). Actually, you might have some new website in the near future where you can access that info more easily. (Shaking head...) Hi to everybody For those who can't read Japanese, the English is here (but less complete) http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/eng/ozumo_meikan/rik...ishi.php?A=2966 http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/eng/ozumo_meikan/rik...ishi.php?A=3038 and the list in Japanese http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/hon_basho/banzuke/shindeshi.php And I found several Japanese press sources that gives KashiwaTAni, and not KashiwaDAni 延岡市立岡富中３年の柏谷充隆（かしわたにみつたか）君（１５）＝... (Mainichi) Is there a place on the net where the maezumo results can be found? Thanks Nice basho
Asashosakari Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Second verse, same as the first: The niban-shusse was announced today, with 30 shindeshi achieving 2 wins and some indeterminate number of losses by Day 9. Since I don't have a video for verification this time, the shikona changes are more or less educated guesses Kuwahara, Shikoroyama-beya Watanabe, Kokonoe-beya Matsumoto Yutaka, Shikoroyama-beya Hamauzu, Kasugano-beya Kainofuji (Saito Yoshimasa), Tomozuna-beya Suzuki, Kasugayama-beya Kainoryu? (Yamashita), Tomozuna-beya Kawanari, Oguruma-beya, shusshin changed to Kagawa apparently Kotookuyama (Okuyama), Sadogatake-beya Nakamoto, Kasugayama-beya Kotosaito (Saito Shohei), Sadogatake-beya Yamazoe, Nakamura-beya Kainokura (Sato), Tomozuna-beya Abeshima, Dewanoumi-beya Katsubushi? (Omori), Takadagawa-beya Nasu, Nakamura-beya Masuda, Arashio-beya Higuchi, Hakkaku-beya Daisho? (Nakashima), Takadagawa-beya Asasakai (Sakai), Takasago-beya Hamaminato (Hamana), Minato-beya Sakimura, Kasugayama-beya Otadayama? (Matsumoto Taisei), Takadagawa-beya Takahashi, Tamanoi-beya Ikataumi? (Inoue Takaharu), Nishonoseki-beya Sawamura, Miyagino-beya Iha, Sakaigawa-beya Irigemachi, Hanakago-beya Tagen, Kitanoumi-beya Harukomaru? (Hayashida), Azumazeki-beya
Katsunori Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Second verse, same as the first: The niban-shusse was announced today, with 30 shindeshi achieving 2 wins and some indeterminate number of losses by Day 9. Since I don't have a video for verification this time, the shikona changes are more or less educated guessesKawanari, Oguruma-beya, shusshin changed to Kagawa apparently Kawanari is given born in Kotohira city (Kagawa-ken) but attending to a school in Shikokuchuo city (Ehime-ken).
Katsunori Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Third group of 25 shindeshi from the maezumo, published today. Sorry for the missing shikona (Showing respect...) 高間（鹿児島、鳴戸） Takama Naruto 奥貫（千葉、陸奥） Okunuki Michinoku 桐ケ久保改め琴桐ケ久保（千葉、佐渡ケ嶽） Kirigakubo aka Kotokirigakubo Sadogatake 満木（長野、伊勢ノ海） Mitsugi Isenoumi 熊（滋賀、間垣） Kuma Magaki 大関改め栃大邦（栃木、春日野） Ozeki aka ? Kasugano 当間改め闘士（東京、高田川） Toma aka ? Takadagawa 吉田改め浜田山（東京、芝田山） Yoshida aka ? Shibatayama 塚本改め翔剛（佐賀、二所ノ関） Tsukamoto aka ? Nishonoseki 新城（沖縄、九重） Shinjo Kokonoe 葛貫（埼玉、鳴戸） Tsuzuranuki Naruto 舩橋（愛知、中村） Funahashi Nakamura 倉持改め若倉持（茨城、間垣） Kuramochi aka Wakakuramochi Magaki 小野（山梨、中村） Ono Nakamura 沢田（福岡、式秀） Sawada Shikihide 藤原改め大翔藍（岐阜、追手風） Fujiwara aka ? Oitakaze 宮岡改め武田（山口、鳴戸） Miyaoka aka ? Naruto 八尋（東京、大島） Yahiro Oshima 中村改め道広山（神奈川、宮城野） Nakamura aka ? Miyagino 吉村（愛知、田子ノ浦） Yoshimura Tagonoura 東改め霧東（熊本、陸奥） Higashi aka ? Michinoku 竹内（三重、錣山） Takeuchi Shikoroyama 片岡改め恵比寿丸（兵庫、高田川） Kataoka aka ? Takadagawa 松葉（宮崎、春日山） Matsuba Kasugano 橋本（熊本、木瀬） Hashimoto Kise
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