Sekitori-Oracle and Sekitori-Quadrumvirate invitation

[nirumaruyama]

I'm so pleased that these games are up and running too (especially as I had managed a KK in their previous incarnation's last basho). However, I'm performing really really badly in everything. Feck!

[Golynohana]

SO and SQ results for day 7 will be a little bit later today

[Sakana]

No problemo ! ;-)

We're thankful for running these games. (Shaking head...)

[Vikanohara]

That Norizo-guy is simply amazing in Sekitori-games !

8-0 in S4 &

8-0 in Seki-Toto

Tons of (Dribbling...) :-)

[Randomitsuki]

That Norizo-guy is simply amazing in Sekitori-games !

8-0 in S4 &

8-0 in Seki-Toto

Tons of (Dribbling...) :-)

You should have seen him about two years ago when he actually pulled it off to win 15-0 in S4. In my opinion this is the best sumo gaming performance ever, and I highly doubt that anybody will ever repeat that. Well, maybe Norizo himself...

[Asashosakari]

You should have seen him about two years ago when he actually pulled it off to win 15-0 in S4.

Shhh. :-) At least you didn't say "the word"...

[Zenjimoto]

You should have seen him about two years ago when he actually pulled it off to win 15-0 in S4.

Shhh. :-S At least you didn't say "the word"...

Don't worry... IIRC, people dropped the "Z" word on him even last time, well before senshuraku... and he still made it! (Neener, neener...) Good luck!! (Pulling hair...)

Cheers,

Z.

[Fujisan]

I think I have lost the plot completely in the sekitori games,at 3-6 in Toto I am well on the way to my 3rd consecutive MK and I have no idea where I'm going wrong,at first I thought it was bad luck but three basho in a row isn't bad luck its bad picks.

3-6 in Quad with all my best picks gone is not a great return either.

[Kintamayama]

Someone better kick the result grabber in S4. The site is Ok, but the results have not been grabbed and neither has the torikumi.

Edited March 20, 2007 by Kintamayama

[Golynohana]

sorry for the delay. the grabber works fine, but needs to be fired by me ;-)

I didn't have time to do it earlier.

[Asashosakari]

For kicks, here are the daily winning percentages so far:

Day 1:   8.4%
Day 2:  24.4%
Day 3:  33.8%
Day 4:  24.4%
Day 5:  42.2%
Day 6:  76.5%
Day 7:  77.6%
Day 8:  78.3%
Day 9:  29.8%
Day 10: 72.0%

Day 1 was the second-lowest scoring day ever. Pretty extreme results altogether, with already three days below 25% and three above 75%. The average scoring so far is 46.8%, a bit on the low side.

[Vikanohara]

Wow, I got a 4/4 on Day 1 :-P (Which I could repeat on Day 7) ! I even got Hokutoiwa in the lineup on the opening day. (Neener, neener...)

Edited March 21, 2007 by Vikanohara

[Asashosakari]

And the rollercoaster continues...16.1% on Day 11, 7th-worst result all-time. Norizo still leads by two, but won't be getting zensho this time.

Edited March 21, 2007 by Asashosakari

[Golynohana]

What is the tiebreaker in Sekitori-Q?

We have two players on the first place with 12 wins. Norizo and Gernobono.

The order on the site is alfabetical.

In Sekitori-Oracle we have one winner: Ozeki Flohru. The other ozeki Norizo takes the jun-jusho

Divisional provisional results:

(shikona, rank, nation, points, banzuke wins)

Makuuchi:

Flohru NO Germany 595 12

Norizo NO2 Japan 593 11

Doitsuyama HM1 Germany 590 10

Golynohana NK Poland 587 9

Asashosakari NS Germany 587 9

Frinkanohana HS Germany 586 9

Mariohana NM4 Germany 586 9

Randomitsuki NM15 Germany 586 9

GONZABUROW NM3 Japan 585 8

pastanoyama HM13 United States 584 8

misisko HM2 Slovakia 583 8

Jakusotsu NM11 Germany 581 7

Heruwejima NM14 Germany 581 7

Andoreasu HK Germany 580 7

Konosato NM1 Switzerland 579 7

ullishimaru HM4 Germany 578 6

Zenjimoto HM7 Austria 576 6

Akisame HM11 United States 574 5

Charliki HM3 Switzerland 570 4

Packamawashi HM12 Germany 569 4

Susanoo HM15 Japan 555 1

dimitri HM6 Austria 264 0

Juryo:

Taka NJ1 Denmark 587 11

Tamanaogijima HJ2 Germany 586 10

Tosahayate HJ3 Japan 586 10

Toschima HJ7 Germany 581 9

Shiyonofuji HJ10 United States 580 9

Nirumaruyama NJ14 Ireland 580 9

Leonishiki NJ6 Spain 579 9

Toljokinodo HJ4 Germany 576 8

Fujisan HJ14 United Kingdom 572 7

Kaiowaka HJ9 Switzerland 571 7

Takanorappa NJ3 United States 567 6

Gaijingai NJ9 United States 566 6

Seki Haruaki HJ13 Japan 565 5

Heikotoriki NJ8 Germany 559 4

Gusoyama NJ11 United States 556 4

Oshirokita NJ5 Canada 237 0

Makushita:

Kitakachiyama NMs27 Poland 588 12

asahi HMs13 Japan 584 11

Meyeryu NMs15 Germany 583 11

bafa NMs5 Japan 576 10

kaiguma NMs33 United States 574 9

Neko HMs34 Germany 574 9

Sunibono HMs18 United States 572 9

Taro NULL Germany 572 9

Kyokuhagyo NULL Germany 570 8

Mmikasazuma HMs5 Hungary 570 8

Kaiomitsuki HMs16 France 569 8

Vikanohara NULL Belgium 567 8

Bunijiman NULL Australia 567 8

isokawa NMs10 France 567 8

Marimo NMs28 France 566 8

Toratorii NMs30 United States 566 8

Imumaru NMs31 France 566 8

Profomisakari NMs25 Germany 565 7

aderechelseamaru NMs11 Greece 565 7

Anjoboshi HMs21 Austria 565 7

Kitano NMs20 France 564 7

Kachitakai HMs11 Hungary 563 7

Annai HMs8 Germany 562 7

Fay NMs43 Germany 562 7

Holleshoryu HMs32 Germany 558 6

Fatakiyama HMs14 France 557 6

Terarno HMs23 France 557 6

Zeokage NMs9 United Kingdom 557 6

Asafan NMs19 Switzerland 556 6

Saruwatari NMs39 Netherlands 552 5

Kotononami NMs17 France 538 4

Kuramarujo HMs35 United States 520 2

Kitanoyama NULL Germany 275 0

Takashido HMs19 France 220 0

godaikonoryu NMs8 United States 200 0

abudisake NULL France 189 0

Dingosan NULL Ireland 189 0

Sansho winners:

Shukun-Sho -> asahi (18 x bulls eye)

Kanto-Sho -> Taka (48 correct KK)

Gino-Sho -> Mariohana (Lowest score: 6; 5 times)

The banzuke scores are provisional. Because some players from results page (especially those with very small scores) may get kosho for this basho and will be removed from results page. If this happens, the KK line may change.

[Gernobono]

What is the tiebreaker in Sekitori-Q?

We have two players on the first place with 12 wins. Norizo and Gernobono.

The order on the site is alfabetical.

The rules say that both cyberrikishi form a team with the bestscoring 4 rikishi they did not pick and the wins are counted to decide a winner....

i made a calculation by hand and for me norizo has

Tokitsuumi 8

Shunketsu 8

Shirononami 8

Takamisakari 7

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result 31

gernobono has

tochiozan 11

toyonoshima 8

koryu 8

shunketsu 8

-----------------------

result 35

which would make gernobono the winner, but as i made this on two pieces of paper printed from today's scores on the nsk-site, i might be wrong

the tiebreakerrules say:

Tie-breakers:

Should there be a tie for the yusho, the tie-breaker teams of each player swing into action. Each player's tie-breaker team will be the 4 sekitori with the MOST TOTAL WINS that have NOT been picked by that player on any day during the basho. This tie-breaker team may include sekitori who actually went kyujo during the tourney, but still managed to score one or more wins. Should there be a basho with too many withdrawals to allow a full 4-sekitori tie-breaker team, then what ever is left over will be used.

Should there still be a tie, the player with the higher ranked rikishi (cumulative) on their tie-breaker team will win (i.e. the player who left more top-rankers unpicked).

If there STILL is a tie, then other scores accumulated during the basho will determine a winner, in the following order: total win points, Kanto-sho score, Shukun-sho score. If that all still doesn't work, the nod will go to the player ranked higher on the S4-Banzuke. Tie-breaker scores are shown on the RESULTS page, together with all other scoring, and may change daily depending on which rikishi are selected.

taken from: http://www.anasuya.com/4/rules.html

[Golynohana]

Sekitori-Quad kettei sen - confirmation.

Norizo tie-breaker team

Tokitsuumi 8

Shunketsu 8

Shirononami 8

Takamisakari 7

sum=31

Gernobono tie-breaker team

Tochiozan 11

Toyonoshima 8

Ryuho 8

Shunketsu 8

sum=35

Gernobono takes Sekitori-Quadrumvirate yusho. Congratulations!

(Laughing...)

[Andoreasu]

Divisional provisional results:

(shikona, rank, nation, points, banzuke wins)

Makuuchi:

Flohru NO Germany 595 12

Norizo NO2 Japan 593 11

Doitsuyama HM1 Germany 590 10

Golynohana NK Poland 587 9

...

It seems that Baruto's points are still included.

The results on the SO-site are different.

[Golynohana]

the results on the site are the correct ones.

I forgot to remove kyujo rikishi in my formula for calculating w-l records. Sorry for this!! I will correct it now and post the w-l records once again.

[Golynohana]

Makuuchi:

Flohru NO Germany 585 11

Norizo NO2 Japan 583 10

Doitsuyama HM1 Germany 580 9

ullishimaru HM4 Germany 577 8

Andoreasu HK Germany 577 8

Golynohana NK Poland 577 8

Asashosakari NS Germany 577 8

Frinkanohana HS Germany 576 8

Mariohana NM4 Germany 576 8

Randomitsuki NM15 Germany 576 8

GONZABUROW NM3 Japan 575 8

pastanoyama HM13 United States 574 7

misisko HM2 Slovakia 573 7

Jakusotsu NM11 Germany 571 7

Heruwejima NM14 Germany 571 7

Charliki HM3 Switzerland 570 6

Konosato NM1 Switzerland 569 6

Zenjimoto HM7 Austria 566 5

Akisame HM11 United States 564 5

Packamawashi HM12 Germany 559 4

Susanoo HM15 Japan 547 1

dimitri HM6 Austria 254 0

Juryo:

Taka NJ1 Denmark 577 11

Tamanaogijima HJ2 Germany 576 10

Tosahayate HJ3 Japan 576 10

Toschima HJ7 Germany 571 9

Shiyonofuji HJ10 United States 570 9

Nirumaruyama NJ14 Ireland 570 9

Leonishiki NJ6 Spain 569 9

Toljokinodo HJ4 Germany 566 8

Fujisan HJ14 United Kingdom 562 7

Kaiowaka HJ9 Switzerland 561 7

Heikotoriki NJ8 Germany 560 6

Takanorappa NJ3 United States 557 6

Gaijingai NJ9 United States 556 6

Seki Haruaki HJ13 Japan 555 5

Gusoyama NJ11 United States 546 4

Oshirokita NJ5 Canada 227 0

Makushita:

Kitakachiyama NMs27 Poland 578 12

Taro NULL Germany 574 11

asahi HMs13 Japan 574 11

Meyeryu NMs15 Germany 573 11

bafa NMs5 Japan 566 9

Profomisakari NMs25 Germany 565 9

Neko HMs34 Germany 564 9

kaiguma NMs33 United States 564 9

Sunibono HMs18 United States 562 9

Kyokuhagyo NULL Germany 560 8

Mmikasazuma HMs5 Hungary 560 8

Kachitakai HMs11 Hungary 559 8

Kaiomitsuki HMs16 France 559 8

Holleshoryu HMs32 Germany 559 8

Vikanohara NULL Belgium 557 8

Bunijiman NULL Australia 557 8

isokawa NMs10 France 557 8

Marimo NMs28 France 556 7

Toratorii NMs30 United States 556 7

Imumaru NMs31 France 556 7

aderechelseamaru NMs11 Greece 555 7

Anjoboshi HMs21 Austria 555 7

Kitano NMs20 France 554 7

Annai HMs8 Germany 552 7

Fay NMs43 Germany 552 7

Zeokage NMs9 United Kingdom 547 6

Terarno HMs23 France 547 6

Fatakiyama HMs14 France 547 6

Asafan NMs19 Switzerland 546 6

Saruwatari NMs39 Netherlands 542 5

Kotononami NMs17 France 528 4

Kuramarujo HMs35 United States 510 2

Kitanoyama NULL Germany 265 0

Takashido HMs19 France 210 0

godaikonoryu NMs8 United States 190 0

abudisake NULL France 179 0

Dingosan NULL Ireland 179 0

[Asashosakari]

The banzuke scores are provisional. Because some players from results page (especially those with very small scores) may get kosho for this basho and will be removed from results page. If this happens, the KK line may change.

I just wanted to affirm this. I've decided to go with this strategy for dealing with the absences, which means the new Oracle banzuke will be done during the first week of Natsu basho (and the S4 banzuke likely right after the end of Natsu).

At any rate, I'm going to exclude those 7 players from the scoring who didn't finish their ballot (irrespective of whether they show up in May, so they might still get a 0-0-15 for Haru). I'll post the "official" W-L records in a bit.

[nirumaruyama]

I've enjoyed playing these games again. Back to the usual in S4 with a makekoshi but hopefully the KK line Seki-O won't change by much as my 9-6 record will mean that I have had 10 kachi koshi in a row in this game dating back to Natsu 2005 (and i'm still only barely in Juryo!).

Thanks guys

[Golynohana]

Golynohana, will your automation for both games still work if there isn't a new banzuke before the next basho starts?

Everything should work fine. Only page with divisional scores for S-O (which is not online yet, but i am currently working on it) will not work correctly without S-O banzuke.

(sorry for late response)

[Asashosakari]

First off, many thanks again to Golynohana for getting these two games back on the scene. :-) (Dripping sweat...) ;-)

Second off, congrats to Norizo for what was quite possibly the most dominant Seki-Games performance ever, with jun-yusho in Oracle and Quad, and yusho in Toto. (On the banzuke...)

Third off, congrats to Ozeki Flohru for winning his fourth Oracle yusho, and second within the last three basho that the game was active. Unfortunately, his line for those three basho reads 12-3Y, 7-8, 11-4Y and while I can't say for sure, I suspect the Oracle Kyokai will not look kindly on that middle make-koshi as far as a bid for the big white rope is concerned.

Here are the official Win-Loss records:

Makuuchi Division # Rank Shikona Pts W-L 1 O1w Flohru 585 11-4 2 O2w Norizo 583 10-5 3 M1e Doitsuyama 580 9-6 4 Sw Asashosakari 577 8-7 4 K1e Andoreasu 577 8-7 4 K1w Golynohana 577 8-7 4 M4e Ullishimaru 577 8-7 8 Se Frinkanohana 576 8-7 8 M4w Mariohana 576 8-7 8 M15w Randomitsuki 576 8-7 11 M3w Gonzaburow 575 7-8 12 M13e Pastanoyama 574 7-8 13 M2e Misisko 573 7-8 14 M11w Jakusotsu 571 6-9 14 M14w Heruwejima 571 6-9 16 M3e Charliki 570 6-9 17 M1w Konosato 569 6-9 18 M7e Zenjimoto 566 5-10 19 M11e Akisame 564 5-10 20 M12e Packamawashi 559 3-12 21 M15e Susanoo 547 0-15

Juryo Division # Rank Shikona Pts W-L 1 J1w Taka 577 10-5 2 J2e Tamanaogijima 576 10-5 2 J3e Tosahayate 576 10-5 4 J7e Toschima 571 9-6 5 J10e Shiyonofuji 570 8-7 5 J14w Nirumaruyama 570 8-7 7 J6w Leonishiki 569 8-7 8 J4e Toljokinodo 566 7-8 9 J14e Fujisan 562 6-9 10 J9e Kaiowaka 561 6-9 11 J8w Heikotoriki 560 6-9 12 J3w Takanorappa 557 5-10 13 J9w Gaijingai 556 5-10 14 J13e Seki Haruaki 555 5-10 15 J11w Gusoyama 546 3-12

Makushita Division and Shindeshi # Rank Shikona Pts W-L 1 Ms27w Kitakachiyama 578 12-3 2 Ms13e Asahi 574 11-4 2 NR Taro 574 11-4 4 Ms15w Meyeryu 573 11-4 5 Ms5w Bafa 566 9-6 6 Ms25w Profomisakari 565 9-6 7 Ms33w Kaiguma 564 9-6 7 Ms34e Neko 564 9-6 9 Ms18e Sunibono 562 9-6 10 Ms5e Mmikasazuma 560 8-7 10 NR Kyokuhagyo 560 8-7 12 Ms11e Kachitakai 559 8-7 12 Ms16e Kaiomitsuki 559 8-7 12 Ms32e Holleshoryu 559 8-7 15 Ms10w Isokawa 557 8-7 15 NR Bunijiman 557 8-7 15 NR Vikanohara 557 8-7 18 Ms28w Marimo 556 7-8 18 Ms30w Toratorii 556 7-8 18 Ms31w Imumaru 556 7-8 21 Ms11w Aderechelseamaru 555 7-8 21 Ms21e Anjoboshi 555 7-8 23 Ms20w Kitano 554 7-8 24 Ms8e Annai 552 7-8 24 Ms43w Fay 552 7-8 26 Ms9w Zeokage 547 6-9 26 Ms14e Fatakiyama 547 6-9 26 Ms23e Terarno 547 6-9 29 Ms19w Asafan 546 6-9 30 Ms39w Saruwatari 542 5-10 31 Ms17w Kotononami 528 4-11 32 Ms35e Kuramarujo 510 2-13

[Golynohana]

I have added page with W-L records to my site.

click here

I am glad to see that formula I used gives the same results as those posted by Asashosakari (Blushing...)

[Golynohana]

Haru 2007 Sekitori-Quadrumvirate sansho:

>>HERE<<

Shukun-Sho for Terarno

Kanto-Sho for Terarno

Gino-Sho for Gernobono

Congratulations

Edited May 9, 2007 by Golynohana