Kisenosato dodges the bullet

[Sashohitowa]

(Neener, neener...)

[Shimpu]

Is this some kind of payback for Kotooshu's thread ? (Neener, neener...)

Edited November 26, 2006 by Shimpu

[Sashohitowa]

Is this some kind of payback for Kotooshu thread ? (Dohyo-iri...)

Yes (Neener, neener...) - I just remember how much discussion his "last minutes kachikoshi" caused..

But don't get me wrong - his win today was totally deserved.. And I enjoy him staying at Komusubi... Hope that he'll not try to beat Kotomitsuki's 8-7 record, and move to Sekiwake more rapidly:-)

Edited November 26, 2006 by Sashohikufuhen

[kotooshu_bulgaria]

Congratulations to Kisenosato! Wrestlers like him and Futeno should stay in sanyaku all the time, and Kisenosato should be able to reach ozeki, that is of course after the old ozeki retire, which should happen next year.

[Koriyama]

Congratulations to Kisenosato! Wrestlers like him and Futeno should stay in sanyaku all the time, and Kisenosato should be able to reach ozeki, that is of course after the old ozeki retire, which should happen next year.

Kotooshu isn't that old (Neener, neener...) ??

[kotooshu_bulgaria]

By the "old ozeki" I meant the older trio, not Kotooshu and Hakuho, who will stay at ozeki and even aim for yokozuna.

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

Good basho. Good learning curve. He improves his sumo against spesific foes well. Fascinating learning curve and step by step progress in his sumo. Very Kisenosatoish progress. The only shame was his weak bout against Taikai where he had no fighting spirit, although he had injured his right arm the day before when landing a bit awkwardly as a result of ketaguri but still a bad bout. He has already become a big danger to all rikishi, including yokozuna, and will have good grounds to continue his ascension and progress in 2007. He has some areas to work on but what is positive is that he has improved in those areas too. Good benchmark for him is Kotomitsuki whose style is pure poison to him and he has lost by morozashi techniques a lot to him.

[mokele]

Miyabiyama came through in the clutch again too. I still doubt that he will make it back to ozeki a 2nd time but you have to admire his persistence and resilience.

Kokkai and Aminishiki will drop out of sanyaku and will be replaced at Komusubi by Kotoshogiku and Dejima.

If I'm not mistaken, Dejima's 10-5 record is his 1st double digit kachi-koshi since he was demoted from ozeki several years ago. I'm happy to see it. (Neener, neener...) Dejima has 1 of the most powerful tachi-ai and de-ashi oshi attacks I've ever seen, and if he stays healthy he can join Miyabiyama at making 1 last run at regaining the ozeki rank.

Something very odd happened this basho:

9 guys finished in Makunouchi with records of 10-5. That must be the most ever rikishi in the top division with that result.

[Asashosakari]

If I'm not mistaken, Dejima's 10-5 record is his 1st double digit kachi-koshi since he was demoted from ozeki several years ago.

Not quite...

2002.11: M10e 10-5

2003.01: M3w 11-4

2003.11: M14w 11-4

2004.01: M6e 10-5

2004.09: M5w 10-5

9 guys finished in Makunouchi with records of 10-5. That must be the most ever rikishi in the top division with that result.

Yup, new post-1950s record*, the old one was 7 rikishi in 1981.01, 2003.07 and last basho. 6 Maegashira with 10-5 records is a new post-1950s record as well, the old one was 5, again in 2003.07 and last basho.

And while we're at it, 7 Maegashira with 10 or more wins ties the post-50s record set in 2004.01 and repeated last basho, and 11 total Makuuchi rikishi with 10+ wins is yet another post-50s record.

Two consecutive basho with many high-scoring Maegashira despite the Ozeki and the rest of sanyaku doing relatively well, hmm...

(* post-1950s because Makuuchi consisted of 50+ rikishi for most of the 1940s and 1950s, rather than the ~40 it has been since then.)

Edit: Everything according to hakkeyoi.net, of course. Credit where it's due. (Neener, neener...)

Edited November 26, 2006 by Asashosakari

[mokele]

If I'm not mistaken, Dejima's 10-5 record is his 1st double digit kachi-koshi since he was demoted from ozeki several years ago.

Not quite...

2002.11: M10e 10-5

2003.01: M3w 11-4

2003.11: M14w 11-4

2004.01: M6e 10-5

2004.09: M5w 10-5

9 guys finished in Makunouchi with records of 10-5. That must be the most ever rikishi in the top division with that result.

Yup, new post-1950s record*, the old one was 7 rikishi in 1981.01, 2003.07 and last basho. 6 Maegashira with 10-5 records is a new post-1950s record as well, the old one was 5, again in 2003.07 and last basho.

And while we're at it, 7 Maegashira with 10 or more wins ties the post-50s record set in 2004.01 and repeated last basho, and 11 total Makuuchi rikishi with 10+ wins is yet another post-50s record.

Two consecutive basho with many high-scoring Maegashira despite the Ozeki and the rest of sanyaku doing relatively well, hmm...

(* post-1950s because Makuuchi consisted of 50+ rikishi for most of the 1940s and 1950s, rather than the ~40 it has been since then.)

Thanks for the info on Dejima.

I don"t have a complete record for his history in sumo.

Huge thanks for the reference hakkeyoi.net (Neener, neener...)

Years ago I formerly kept all my own records for rikishi, but I quit that a few years back. Now I can just look up their records. (Dohyo-iri...)

Edited November 26, 2006 by mokele

[sumofan]

By the "old ozeki" I meant the older trio, not Kotooshu and Hakuho, who will stay at ozeki and even aim for yokozuna.

I believe that hakuho has what it takes to becomes yokozuna.

Kotooshu OTOH will never have a real chance I think. He lacks the fighting spirit and agressiveness.

Just my 2ct of course.

[Hananotaka]

I believe that hakuho has what it takes to becomes yokozuna.

Kotooshu OTOH will never have a real chance I think. He lacks the fighting spirit and agressiveness.

Just my 2ct of course.

They said that about Musashimaru for years. And Wakanohana.

[Coo-cook]

Good basho. Good learning curve. He improves his sumo against spesific foes well. Fascinating learning curve and step by step progress in his sumo. Very Kisenosatoish progress. The only shame was his weak bout against Taikai where he had no fighting spirit, although he had injured his right arm the day before when landing a bit awkwardly as a result of ketaguri but still a bad bout.

(Yusho winner...)

Kaikitsune,

You have a specific allergy, it seems. (I am not worthy...)

[Jonosuke]

I am hoping one of his learning curves will be to straighten out his hip movement as that wiggling may be causing a severe distraction to the shimpans and other waiting rikishis sitting at the side line as well as nearby spectators (I note at least one photog lower his camera whenever Kisenosato does his tachiai...).

His arm movement at the shikiri line has somewhat subsided ever since the yokozuna got to his elbow indirectly by that rarest of teaching method, ketaguri.

Edited November 26, 2006 by Jonosuke

[Mark Buckton]

FWIW on the youngster: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ss20061111a1.html

[Afrozuna]

By the "old ozeki" I meant the older trio, not Kotooshu and Hakuho, who will stay at ozeki and even aim for yokozuna.

I believe that hakuho has what it takes to becomes yokozuna.

Kotooshu OTOH will never have a real chance I think. He lacks the fighting spirit and agressiveness.

Just my 2ct of course.

Kotooshu always seems to lack fighting spirit. That is why some of his wins are actually a suprise.