Hakuho, Baruto, Miyabiyama, Kisenosato Promotion Watch

[aderechelsea]

well ... that proved me REALLY wrong in the case of Kisenosato. He completely dominated the Yokozuna today and he provided the most emphatic loss for Asashoryu in the past year (or more).

Great grip from him and he manages to make the yokozuna stand upright but in a inferior position tha this opponent. Best offensive bout by anyone against Asa. (ok maybe Kokkai was equally good a couple of basho ago) ...

Hakuho on ht eother hand did not "choke" but failed to finish the bout a couple of times and then got overanxious. Aminishiki is not an opponent to be taken lightly. He has the composure to make moves like that to anyone. (ask the yokozuna if you don't believe me)

Both losses provide a great chance to watch an exciting basho, so they were welcome.

[Shimpu]

Very good bout - Kise has shown awesome balance and power after very good tachi-ai. It's good to see him in yotsu bout. I hope he will uphold this positive situation.

[yamaneko]

When i say "choke" is when someone who is highly favored going into a match and has a lot on the line, loses. Not necessarily that he tripped and fell or something like that. Like when the yankees went up on the red sox 3 games to zero in the playoffs and then lost the next 4 games...that was "choking."

But yes, aminishiki for sure deserved the win, he kept hakuho away from his sumo. Has hakuho even once this basho been able to do his sumo?

This loss by asa reminds me of last november when kotooshu clinched promotion to ozeki by beating asa by yoritaoshi.

Baruto probably is the only one upset...his chances against asa werent that wonderful to start with, but now asa will be doubly charged since he lost to the kid. Did you see asa's face after the match? He looked out to the crowd and was like, i CANNOT believe this just happened.

[Guest NPD]

How to spell Kinboshi correctly in Japanese?

NPD

[Daigaiguma]

金星　ー　きんぼし

I think ~

[Ginkgo]

How to spell Kinboshi correctly in Japanese?

NPD

Just in case, you

[SalParadise]

Daigaiguma is correct with the Kinboshi kanji.

[Shibouyama]

How to spell Kinboshi correctly in Japanese?

NPD

Just so you know, Kisenosato doesn't get a kinboshi for beating Asashoryu. Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat an yokozuna. Kisenosato, being a komosubi, doesn't qualify.

Edited September 17, 2006 by Shibouyama

[kaiguma]

How to spell Kinboshi correctly in Japanese?

NPD

Just so you know, Kisenosato doesn't get a kinboshi for beating Asashoryu. Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat an ozeki. Kisenosato, being a komosubi, doesn't qualify.

Maybe NPD is getting ready for today's match, such as: "Baruto just missed his first chance at earning a kinboshi, but he will have many more opportunities to come."

or: "No one (except Kaiguma) was really expecting Ama to pull off a kinboshi win on senshuraku to take the yusho!"

That's a sanyaku promotion that we haven't started tracking yet . . . (Blushing...)

Edited September 15, 2006 by kaiguma

[Zentoryu]

Just so you know, Kisenosato doesn't get a kinboshi for beating Asashoryu. Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat an ozeki. Kisenosato, being a komosubi, doesn't qualify.

I think you meant that Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat a Yokozuna. (Blushing...)

[sumofan]

Just so you know, Kisenosato doesn't get a kinboshi for beating Asashoryu. Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat an ozeki. Kisenosato, being a komosubi, doesn't qualify.

I think you meant that Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat a Yokozuna. (Blushing...)

Well, at this moment it is the same thing, isn't it?

B-)

[Shomishuu]

Hakuho on ht eother hand did not "choke" but failed to finish the bout a couple of times and then got overanxious.

I thought his strategy of coming out with tsuparri was great. It totally surprised Aminishiki and knocked him backwards. With Aminishiki off balance, he could have reached in with that left paw and got into his favorite position, slowing and stabilizing the match. It was a very good plan, but allowing the flurry to continue just made it possible for 'anything to happen.' And it did. I wouldn't call it choking...it's more like he needs to remind himself how he wins, and it's not by flying around the dohyo...that's how the other guy wins. He's only 21 (we can still say that for awhile). (Blushing...)

[dazunoyama]

Just so you know, Kisenosato doesn't get a kinboshi for beating Asashoryu. Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat an ozeki. Kisenosato, being a komosubi, doesn't qualify.

I think you meant that Kinboshi are only for maegashira who beat a Yokozuna. (Blushing...)

Well, at this moment it is the same thing, isn't it?

B-)

not sure what you mean by that sumo fan even with your (Laughing...) emoticon... are you implying its as easy for a maegashira to beat a yokozuna as it is to beat an ozeki at the moment? with kaio and tochiazuma's form this basho i would say definitely not.

by the way heres the sumo forum definition for kinboshi:

kinboshi, "gold star", officially recognized and recorded shiroboshi by a rikishi ranked below komusubi against yokozuna in hon-wari honbasho torikumi; also entitles rikishi for a financial bonus, compare with ginboshi

[yamaneko]

Looking ahead to tomorrow:

Kisenosato gets Tokitenku

MIyabiyama gets CHiyotaikai, should see some good tsuppari there.

Another great match is Hakuho against his new friendly rival Baruto

My predictions (which have sucked so far)

Kise wins, miyabi wins, and hakuho wins.

[yamaneko]

wow, miyabiyama blasted kisenosato into another planet today. I dont know what happened, perhaps it was the initial head butt that just rocked kise back...almost looked like kise fell down on purpose to end the agony.

[yamaneko]

Goodbye yokozuna hopes for good now. (this basho) for hakuho. Hes the first of our promotion guys to get disqualified.

Dang, the guess the kotomitsuki thread probably wont have anyone close to the correct guesses if mickey keeps it up

[Peterao]

Kisenosato was out on his feet after that tachiai; I think Miyabiyama actually kept him on his feet for an extra second with those thrusts, as he fell on his own accord when they stopped.

There will be no new yokozuna this year, as Kotomitsuki handly defeated Hakuho to send him to his third loss.

[aderechelsea]

Miya's head knocked him out....

"Asashoryu style" .... (although he uses his shoulder,arm more)

[yamaneko]

Ive never seen a concussion in my recent sumo watching career, but id think it would be something that happened more often...does it? If that wasnt a mild concussion, that was the closest ive ever seen to one today in sumo.

[aderechelsea]

Ive never seen a concussion in my recent sumo watching career, but id think it would be something that happened more often...does it? If that wasnt a mild concussion, that was the closest ive ever seen to one today in sumo.

check this out for a recent knock out .....

Asashoryu - Kotooshu (Natsu 2005)

i cannot find a Takanowaka one but i am sure someone else will provide it if he is in the mood ....

[yamaneko]

Well, no one expected baruto to win today, but it still was one of the more highly anticipated bouts of the basho.

interesting asa didnt do his normal big hit on his mawashi when it was jikan ippai.

baruto sure got worked though.

[Daigaiguma]

Well, Baruto's loss today won't really hurt his potential promotion to sanyaku, because his opponents from here on will be easier. Hakuho, on the other hand, is pretty much back to square one in terms of his yokozuna promotion. Miyabiyama can still pull it off, especially with that solid win today over Kisenosato, but his opponents will start to get tougher.

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

Miyabiyama can still pull it off, especially with that solid win today over Kisenosato,

Miya was pleased with today's sumo saying it was the best of the basho for him so far. Yet the whole bout was pretty much over at the tachi-ai where both hit hard but Kise got a big impact on his forehead by Miya's skull and was visibly shaken by that, never recovered and lost without getting back to his senses. Mild concussion maybe and a fast tachi-ai by both.

Well, Baruto's loss today won't really hurt his potential promotion to sanyaku, because his opponents from here on will be easier.

I don't see much easiness for Baruto in facing Kotooshu, Kotomitsuki, Miyabiyama, Kisenosato, Kokkai, Tokitenku, Aminishiki. Kotomitsuki makes morozashi breakfast of him for sure.

[Notsukutsu]

I don't see much easiness for Baruto in facing Kotooshu, Kotomitsuki, Miyabiyama, Kisenosato, Kokkai, Tokitenku, Aminishiki. Kotomitsuki makes morozashi breakfast of him for sure.

I could see him get stumped over Miyabiyama, but the others should be fair game for him. Of course, there are no guarantees, but I wouldn't worry either.

[Kaikitsune Makoto]

I could see him get stumped over Miyabiyama, but the others should be fair game for him. Of course, there are no guarantees, but I wouldn't worry either.

Hmm..how do you see him blocking Kotomitsuki's inside attack? Sure ain't easy for him since he has rather open stance out there. Won't be easy to get a grip against Kisenosato and Kokkai's forward leaning tsuki attack can be true poison to him.