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Reonito
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Very cool reversal at the end of Fukuzaki vs. Takakento in makushita.
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14 hours ago, Heather82Cs said:
(This is fanta-sumo really, but I got curious whether there's any chance JSA would make the yokozuna fight next Sunday bc of the emperor attending?)
It did happen once, in 1979, no idea what the circumstances were, though there were 4 yokozuna.
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53 minutes ago, Ack! said:
That's what I thought. But I also thought I saw some rumblings to the contrary recently though. Maybe not, or it was uninformed.
Yeah, two ozeki basho are required. We have two examples of consecutive yusho at S and at O, one recent, and neither resulted in immediate promotion.
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10 minutes ago, Ack! said:
Will Aonishki add to his incredible run with another yusho and yokozuna promotion?
He can't get promoted until after March.
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Based on a quick look, Shodai was at ~424 when he got injured in his first ozeki basho; he'd be at ~885 if that didn't happen.
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3 hours ago, Koorifuu said:
As for Shodai, there was that peak that made him ozeki, but he always felt to me like one of those people who have all the physical tools to make it but not the mental ones. Incredibly strong, good build, exceptional technical sense... but probably too light-hearted and lacking any kind of killer instinct when you absolutely need lots of it to succeed at that competitive level.
He also had his first significant injury (ankle IIRC) in his first Ozeki basho, which led to his only makuuchi absences. He did come back with an 11-4 jun-yusho, but who knows how it may have continued to affect him, as well as any lingering covid effects (for Mitakeumi as well).
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Don't we have enough fujis in Isegahama?
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No Onosato?
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1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:
What annoys me most, totally unrelated to this thread, is the use of weird shikonae. I should have enforced that long ago, at least choose something Japanese-sounding.. Too late to implement that, though. I do remember back in the day players asking me to help out with shikonae, which I gladly did. Those were the days..
There are a couple of shikona generators online...
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7 hours ago, Suwihuto said:
When was the last time we had exactly 2 at each Sanyaku rank?
<manual search ongoing>Possibly Hatsu 1992, unless I missed something. I didn't think it was be so long ago.
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6 hours ago, Kotodoitsu42 said:
I'm just guessing, but Teru became a Japanese citizen in August 2021 and most likely had to renounce his Mongolian citizenship at the same time. Since he only just became Yokozuna after the July basho 2021, there might simply not have been enough time to honor him while he was still Mongolian and he was likely no more eligible as soon as he wasn't a Mongolian citizen anymore.
That's my guess as well.
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We have 14 active Makuuchi yusho winners on the Hatsu banzuke, 13 of them in the top division. (Not sure if there's a more elegant way to query for those still active).
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Yup, Jk19e Asahifuji
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On 21/12/2025 at 14:11, Asashosakari said:
67 for me.
- Takanosho/Hakuoho the wrong way around at M3 (-2)
- Ditto Oshoma/Fujinokawa at M7 (-2)
- Shodai three spots too low (is M8e instead of M9w), which knocked off points for Gonoyama and Roga as well (-5)
- Abi and Tobizaru the wrong way around at M12w/M13e (-4)
- and again with Asahakuryu/Oshoumi at M16w/M17e (-4)
Well done! Just got back from vacation and checked the results, have to be happy with my 3rd. I had Takanosho/Hakuoho the right way around (+2), but lost 5 points on Daieisho/Atamifuji/Tamawashi (–5). Otherwise exact same misses for my 64.
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11 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:
Fastest Progress to Sanyaku from Pro Debut (Makushita Tsukedashi, 6BPY era)
1. 5 - Ichinojo (1/2014~11/2014)
2. 7 - Yutakayama (3/1961~5/1962)Onosato?
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35 minutes ago, Kachikoshi said:
I seem to be the only one who put Takayasu ahead of Kirishima. I couldn’t find any recent examples of a maegashira going ahead of a komusubi in a situation like this. Did I just not look hard enough?
You could be right, there aren't really recent scenarios of two S slots being filled, one by K and one by M, with M having much the better numbers. You'd have to go back to the 90's, not sure how relevant those precedents are, and they're mixed.
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42 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:
Yup, that's our only differences. Makes me feel a little better about the only late change I made - originally I had Shodai as high as M8e rather than M9w, and until right before submitting I still wanted to put him M9e in front of Roga.
I struggled with having him as high as M9w, so hopefully we landed at the right place in the middle.
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1 hour ago, Gurowake said:
See, my thinking would have been that a demoted rikishi always gets the last of the sanyaku spots, regardless of the qualifications of the incoming rikishi. However, since I'm not playing anymore, I haven't bothered to research this and see whether it's actually what's been done in the past, and it might only apply to Sekiwake (from demoted Ozeki).
Here's the recent history. No shortage of 7-8 S -> K1e. Peruse at leisure to see what the best alternative was in each case.
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1 hour ago, Sumo Spiffy said:
But what's the thought for placing Tamawashi at M5e? The only reason I can think of is believing the committee thinks he needs to be demoted, but they can't come up with a reason to split him between Daieisho and Atami to land him at M4w, so he falls behind both. Is it as simple as that?
Honestly those 3 could land in any order and it would be justifiable.
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8 hours ago, Asashosakari said:
M6-M10 is entirely on vibes, the rest I'm feeling okay about.
Going from memory, identical to mine except for flipping the guys at M3 and rearranging the M4e-M5e trio.
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1 hour ago, Godango said:Chiyoshoma M15 Oshoumi
Looks like you promoted Oshoumi half a rank after his 7-8. Lots of bold takes.
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Just now, Kintamayama said:
So everyone had Ouhou before Wakamotoharu at Komusubi? Am I alone again?
Oho clearly lands at komusubi, WMH belongs at M1 but is getting pushed up there to fill a slot.
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34 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:
I won't sit here and stand for such slander against a man who always kept the prevention of further injury above the mere winning and losing of ... oh (checks db) ... ex-Kisenosato?
Do as I say, not as I do?
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These are graded on a scale from 1-6, depending on extent of ligament damage. Treatment, recovery and prognosis depend on the severity. Unless we know the exact details, this is pure speculation (and there are surgical options for the more severe cases).
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Trivia bits
in Ozumo Discussions
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There are 31 rikishi who spent 60+ basho at maegashira. Kyokutenho leads with 87, Tamawashi 3 back with 84. Most topped out at Sekiwake, a few at Komusubi. The two outliers are Tochinoshin, who made Ozeki, and Sadanoumi, whose career high is M1.