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  2. Posted

    Hoshoryu's consecutive playoff appearances at Aki and Kyushu mark  only the 15th time  this has happened in Makuuchi. He's the 12th man to do this, as Takanohana did it 3 times and Hakuho twice. Takanohana in 1995 and Wakamisugi in 1978 are the only ones prior to Hoshoryu to lose both playoffs.

    I can't post the query link due to the blacklisting error.

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    2 hours ago, Heather82Cs said:

    I watched Hiro 's video, and 2 things hit me.

    The first is that so many of Ao 's bouts were brutal, he fell badly even off the dohyo so many times, I feel like it's a miracle he didn't get injured and accomplished what he accomplished.

    (The second one is technically not about him but I will mention it anyway - in the Onosato/Kotozakura bout, maybe because of the angle of the shot, I swear it looks like the yokozuna puts the ozeki 's hand on his mawashi, and seconds later he loses, so weird.)

    My random observations:

    1. Hiradoumi's left hand was nowhere near the dohyo when he launched, and Konosuke let him get away with it.
    2. The little nodowa to finish Tamawashi was a nice touch.
    3. You can see Onosato stop using his left arm immediately after the initial contact in their day 13 bout, which jibes with when Nishonoseki said the injury occurred.
    4. In the above-mentioned Onosato/Kotozakura bout the next day, I think he went for an otsuke with his left arm, but realized he can't use it, which is what created the impression that he put the ozeki's hand on his belt.
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  5. Posted

    34 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

    Almost anywhere if you ask "Can an Ozeki be promoted to Yokozuna in just on basho" you'll be told no.  So where in the world is this guy getting the idea that it's possible?  Wishful thinking?

    Even on sumo-specific sites, people have all sorts of ideas about banzuke movements that are completely divorced from reality.

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    5 hours ago, RabidJohn said:

    My view is that anyone who gets a rope without ever having a maki-koshi has cleared the wall, so Onosato should no longer be on the list.

    'Honorable mentions' would seem appropriate, because I can't think of anything more honorable, but he's too good for the current company in that section. Maybe he should be in a category of his own.

    He can be the first graduate of the Wall.

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    2 hours ago, I am the Yokozuna said:

    So, Aonishiki, I hope that Kaio told you a thing or two about how to stay in the rank for at least ten years as he did

    Personally, I hope for better things for him

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    17 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:

    During the basho Nikkan's Sasaki reported that according to Tamanoi-oyakata (former Ozeki Tochiazuma) Gyotoku has myocarditis, apparently caused by a bacterial infection acquired through a wound.

    Yikes! I was wondering what happened when he pulled out of Aki without any visible sign of injury.

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    8 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

    While I admit it would be a bit harder to do if you don't get two basho in Juryo such that your second basho is from the top of the division, Ichinojo managed to get to Sekiwake in 1 basho in Makuuchi.  You don't need to be Sekiwake though - a 15-0 from anywhere in Makuuchi will certainly get you in the joi (see how they overpromoted Tokushoryu and Terunofuji after their M17 yushos), and from there 3 solid basho would be plenty; 2 more 15-0s might even do it.

    But certainly he's not getting Ozeki in 2026, which makes him irrelevant for this particular poll.  It's simply not possible.

    Yup, it's theoretically possible to get there one basho earlier, and perhaps two depending on what they might do with 2 zensho (or even yusho) in the joi. My timeline assumed the most aggressive possible path to Makuuchi followed by the fastest actual paths from there to Ozeki, accomplished only by Terunofuji, Onosato, and (presumptively) Aonishiki. Terunofuji could possibly have done it one basho faster if he didn't have to go kyujo at Aki 2020. It's an interesting thought experiment of what would happen if you put a fully healthy Onosato at the bottom of the banzuke right now—my guess is that he still wouldn't zensho his way all the way to Ozeki in 10-11 basho.

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  16. Posted

    40 minutes ago, Godango said:

    Too early for Asashifuji to deliver on his hype

    Fastest possible timeline: Jk Hatsu26 7-0, Jd Haru26 7-0, Sd Natsu26 7-0, Ms15 (optimistic) Nagoya26 (7-0), Juryo Aki26, Makuuchi (optimistic) Kyushu26, and then with an Onosato/Aonishiki trajectory, Ozeki Aki 2027. The closest we've had is Aonishiki himself, or Terunofuji's comeback from Jonidan. It took both of them 3 basho to get through Makushita and 2 through Juryo. Ozeki by Haru 2028?

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  19. Posted

    While I was at it, there have been six uchimuso in the top division in the 2020's. Aonishiki has four of them (he also had one in juryo). Kotozakura has been on the receiving end of three of them, including two by Aonishiki, as well as two in this basho, Aonishiki day 15 and Takayasu day 3. He's the only rikishi ever to lose by this technique twice in a basho!

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  21. Posted

    On 21/11/2025 at 22:23, Asashosakari said:

    A quick "preview" of the next Ms top 5 ranks with one day to go...YMMV about some of these assumptions:

    certainties (7)

    Mita (J3e 0-3-11)
    Himukamaru (J13e 4-10)
    Shiden (J14e 5-7-2)

    Takakento (Ms1e 3-4)
    Inami (Ms6e 4-3)
    Yoshii (Ms6w 4-3)

    Tochimusashi (Ms9w 5-1)


    possibles (3 out of 7)

    Shimazuumi (Ms2w 3-4)
    Okaryu (Ms8w 4-3)
    Shimanoumi (Ms11e 5-2)

    Seihakuho (Ms5w 3-3)

    Tenshoho (Ms8e 4-2)
    Kotokenryu (Ms10e 4-2)

    Fukuzaki (Ms14w 5-1)


    Tenshoho and Kotokenryu are facing each other on senshuraku.

    We can add 4-3 Seihakuho and Fukuzaki (6-1) as certainties. The last spot goes to Kotokenryu (5-2), I guess?

  24. Posted

    Aonishiki overcame a henka and a questionable call on his way to this title. TBF Hoshoryu also overcame a henka, but got the benefit of today's walkover win. Both guys are awesome and I look forward to many future meetings between them, though I'm not sure Hoshoryu does ;-)

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    6 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

    Well, if nothing else we did get the closest possible outcome for that fourth slot, thanks to Seihakuho pulling out the kachikoshi while Hakuyozan dropped his last four bouts. I still don't expect it to make any difference, though.

    I think you're right, but is there a recent case of someone who computes to Ms3 staying in juryo, at the expense of an available KK in the promotion zone? In the case of the two J14's who got to stay with 6-9 last year, they would have had to go below the invisible line. At least this makes for an interesting test case.